Discontinued The Grasshopper
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Kalessin
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I spend a fair amount of time admiring mine as well. It is so sleek and sturdy.
hi_there
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I have both and am in a warranty situation with my hopper so very glad I have my FF2. FF2 is great for concentrates and lots of cool vapor, a lot of draw restriction compared to the Hopper. Hopper through water is crazy, huge clouds! Hopper over 3.5 is hot, you need the condom and vapor is warm/harsh at 4+ with no water. But like you said, the Hopper is very cool. I think these two work together well and if these will likely be the only two I use for a long-time.
Kalessin
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This isn't necessarily true, as I use my hopper exclusively at 4 and higher and never need the condom and I don't find it harsh at all, it actually gives me the smoothest vapor out of any of my vapes. It is warm, and dries out my mouth/throat but it almost never makes me cough
slcbdco
Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
I also have and enjoy both though I use the Grasshopper is used waay more frequently.
Vapetrees
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I guess it depends on the way you draw on it, or heat sensitivity, because I have read about a lot of people complaining about the heat and others don't mind it. I agree that it isn't harsh enough for me at higher temperatures as I always use it without the silicone tip. Now, I would say that the vapor the grasshopper produces is very hot because it is able to produce so much vapor in such a short time, and that may also be the reason that some find it harsh.
Kalessin
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For me I don't consider it harsh unless it makes me feel like coughing. The heat of the vapor is a separate and unrelated issue, unless it was hot enough to hurt my throat which I don't find to be the case with the hopper
Vapetrees
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I agree, sometimes it does make me cough but it's never burned me.
hi_there
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Exactly, the heater can keep up with aggressive draws, really they just need to figure out a way to have the herb load at the other ends and travel the length of the unit to cool, if they do that with the GH2 they will have an unbelievable product.
jivebuggered
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ok thanks was also thinking of using extended glass tube the likes of MFLB one (also the ext tube for the da vinci ascent might work?)
everyone is different, please keep this in mind when stating your personal experience, and reading others.
i have to use some kind of cooling device on temp 4 or above. otherwise the temperature of the vapor is very harsh and "burns" my throat. and its not the intensity of the vapor, its the temperature. with a cooling device i can use it on 5 with no issues. granted, i have a sensitive throat, but whatever, it still happens to me.
some of my friends say the same thats its hot, some can handle it.
once again, everyone is different. you wont know if itll work for you until you try.
i have to use some kind of cooling device on temp 4 or above. otherwise the temperature of the vapor is very harsh and "burns" my throat. and its not the intensity of the vapor, its the temperature. with a cooling device i can use it on 5 with no issues. granted, i have a sensitive throat, but whatever, it still happens to me.
some of my friends say the same thats its hot, some can handle it.
once again, everyone is different. you wont know if itll work for you until you try.
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JoeMama
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Just catching up on the threads.... as I pray for deliverance ... of my Hopper this month.
Hey, Hawk... even though I don't even have my hopper yet, your post above is the only one I've read that addresses a reason for this heat other than that it's a GHL warranty issue. I hope this piece of insight percolates around here and we're able to ascertain if that actually presents positive feedback. Because, also, I really hate to think that at this point, GHL would be having fundamental functional issues with this thing!
This is another thing I hadn't thought of; more mass in the chamber, then more heat conduction to the shell! GENIUS!!!
Mellish, would it be fair to assume (or maybe I missed it) that you are using a full load in the chamber through this process? Also, thanks for the well outlined results you experience.
Which brings me to... thanks to all for some really great and clear descriptions of your just-out-of-the-box experiences with this exciting product! I got used to tamping down my expectations due to this long wait, but now I can't wait to get my Ti.
Mr Mellish
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I'd say 3/4 unpacked.
Just tried the Ti on 4 through the Crafty CU. the first two draws were VERY taste. After that, popcorn city.
Vapor_Eyes
taste buds
I can't speak to the Xtar but the Nitecore works straight out of the box.
greenextinguisher
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Man, I went back earlier in this thread and you guys have me looking at glass for the first time in 10 years. I've had the volcano for a long time and its been my exclusive most of the time. The thing is effective and awesome, but it (sucking on a bag) disconnects you a little bit from that original experience. I love it, don't get me wrong, its served me well for quite a while.
Thinking about the FF2 as a bowl and the GH as essentially an "e-slide" is fun. I'm all nostalgic over here.
Thinking about the FF2 as a bowl and the GH as essentially an "e-slide" is fun. I'm all nostalgic over here.
Baron23
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MoltenTiger
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Got my hopper back today 
The new body seems to be improved, I think there's more taper to the chamber opening and it looks slightly different than I remember.
They must have micro-sonically cleaned my mouthpiece (I sent it away in a used [combusted] state) it is now super shiny and spotless.
However, it is no longer perfectly matching the body, the colour is slightly off, not by enough to worry me, but when it's fully screwed on, one edge overhangs by a fraction of a millimetre. Which, haptically speaking, is total bullshit.
I had to send my hopper away without its battery to satisfy posting stipulation, and it returned with one in it, so that's pretty awesome. I also think they've replaced my USB charger, but haven't had a chance to use it yet.
When I first turned the hopper on, the red LED just flashed once, I had to power cycle it a couple of times to get it working, but it seems to be operating normally now.
That did not instil confidence, but the ease of vapour bongs and the fact I at least have it for my weekend away is more than enough to keep me happy.
Might go have a bed time bubbler right now.
The new body seems to be improved, I think there's more taper to the chamber opening and it looks slightly different than I remember.
They must have micro-sonically cleaned my mouthpiece (I sent it away in a used [combusted] state) it is now super shiny and spotless.
However, it is no longer perfectly matching the body, the colour is slightly off, not by enough to worry me, but when it's fully screwed on, one edge overhangs by a fraction of a millimetre. Which, haptically speaking, is total bullshit.
I had to send my hopper away without its battery to satisfy posting stipulation, and it returned with one in it, so that's pretty awesome. I also think they've replaced my USB charger, but haven't had a chance to use it yet.
When I first turned the hopper on, the red LED just flashed once, I had to power cycle it a couple of times to get it working, but it seems to be operating normally now.
That did not instil confidence, but the ease of vapour bongs and the fact I at least have it for my weekend away is more than enough to keep me happy.
Might go have a bed time bubbler right now.
Baron23
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Indeed there is...I do like Delta 3D stuff and patronize Ratchett both for his participation on this board as well as the really neat after market products he designs and sells.
Molten - what color is yours. The reason I ask is that on my Ti Bronze there is a slight color variation between the body and the mouthpiece...slight but there.Got my hopper back today
The new body seems to be improved, I think there's more taper to the chamber opening and it looks slightly different than I remember.
They must have micro-sonically cleaned my mouthpiece (I sent it away in a used [combusted] state) it is now super shiny and spotless.
However, it is no longer perfectly matching the body, the colour is slightly off, not by enough to worry me, but when it's fully screwed on, one edge overhangs by a fraction of a millimetre. Which, haptically speaking, is total bullshit.
I had to send my hopper away without its battery to satisfy posting stipulation, and it returned with one in it, so that's pretty awesome. I also think they've replaced my USB charger, but haven't had a chance to use it yet.
When I first turned the hopper on, the red LED just flashed once, I had to power cycle it a couple of times to get it working, but it seems to be operating normally now.
That did not instil confidence, but the ease of vapour bongs and the fact I at least have it for my weekend away is more than enough to keep me happy.
Might go have a bed time bubbler right now.
MoltenTiger
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sixstringsmash
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So I don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but I've found the whip that I use for my Zephyr Ion works very well with the grasshopper to help cool the vapor down for when I'm hitting it at home and don't want to bother getting a glass piece out. You have to hold the piece in place with your hand to keep it from falling out but the connector piece fits perfectly over the GH. Here are some pictures of what I'm talking about.
http://imgur.com/a/7sgvW
http://imgur.com/a/7sgvW
Bdubbdiblets
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Got my new back end and yea...I wasn't crazy...back to playin weatherman blowin clouds with ease. 
And more importantly I love how you can literally feel the trickle of the sativa or indica slowly yet efficiently warm the brain. This thing is love in a dry herb vape
...I hope I'm not speaking to soon![:\](/i/s/hmm.gif "Hmm :\")
P.s. My other end was working but very poorly (after a week of perfness) getting super hot to touch draining batts in a few hits and minimal cloudage with very light abv. I just did 2 full ovens with new back and the batt seems fine, abv dark like I'm used to and I am hoppin medicated...cherry pie.
P.s.s hop on
And more importantly I love how you can literally feel the trickle of the sativa or indica slowly yet efficiently warm the brain. This thing is love in a dry herb vape...I hope I'm not speaking to soonP.s. My other end was working but very poorly (after a week of perfness) getting super hot to touch draining batts in a few hits and minimal cloudage with very light abv. I just did 2 full ovens with new back and the batt seems fine, abv dark like I'm used to and I am hoppin medicated...cherry pie.
P.s.s hop on
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kingfisher
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That's awesome! Im going to have to get one of those
Edit: it's still cool but my enthusiasm was because I thought it had a gripping end like the condom the gh comes with.
Got my new back end and yea...I wasn't crazy...back to playin weatherman blowin clouds with ease.
P.s. My other end was working but very poorly (after a week of perfness) getting super hot to touch draing batts in a few hits and minimal cloudage with very light abv. I just did 2 full ovens with new back and the batt seems fine, abv dark like I'm used to and I am hoppin medicated...cherry pie.
P.s.s hop on
Ahh, I have to send mine in. I've been delaying but I will be happier once it is back.
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Michel
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Any body tried traditional hashes with the GH yet? Since the heater is full convection, powerful and so close to the chamber it should deliver tasteful cloudy hits I suppose.
I recently purchased a Vapman for this purpose and can get quite good results with this little piece of art, but sadly the taste is cooked of long before the higher temps for vaping hash are achieved...
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Since I'm in Amsterdam in nearly two weeks I might stop @VapoShop and buy my unit right in the store to try it out with some "warme ortjes"
I recently purchased a Vapman for this purpose and can get quite good results with this little piece of art, but sadly the taste is cooked of long before the higher temps for vaping hash are achieved...
Edit:
Since I'm in Amsterdam in nearly two weeks I might stop @VapoShop and buy my unit right in the store to try it out with some "warme ortjes"
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