Discontinued The Grasshopper

Kalessin

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For anyone interested, there's also a very cheap way to load without spilling, the pack n stash Maybe not as pro, but easy to carry around, and great for filling outdoors in the wind
Here's one with some eye candy, too funny
I have some of these, but I have abandoned them in favor of doobtubes. The pack'n'stashes look cool, but they don't hold nearly as much as a doobtube, and to hold the maximum you have to compress your herb a lot and then have to deal with breaking that up, cause that rotating press will get it super stuck together. They just ended up being way too much effort for me
 

tubasco

Well-Known Member
I have some of these, but I have abandoned them in favor of doobtubes. The pack'n'stashes look cool, but they don't hold nearly as much as a doobtube, and to hold the maximum you have to compress your herb a lot and then have to deal with breaking that up, cause that rotating press will get it super stuck together. They just ended up being way too much effort for me
I still swear by these: https://www.amazon.com/SEOH-Glass-T...ons&keywords=glass+test+tubes+with+caps&psc=1
 

tubasco

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Those look nice, but I feel like I'd inevitably break them
I've only broken one since getting them back in January. But yes, I'm pretty careful with them now.
I also use a few empty Zipfizz containers. I love that they're opaque, and they close so tightly they're smellproof and likely water resistant.
I wish someone would make a Pyrex doob tube!
 

Purple Lava Lamp

Well-Known Member
Thx for all of your real world, fact based info, @slcbdco !

This makes me wonder (being new to this forum) has anyone from GH Labs posted here at FC?

I think some of you have referred to a "Trevor" sometimes, I think? Who is Trevor? Did he invent/design the GH?

Just curious

How do you like it? I have one on the way!

Me too! Ordered the feeder and cases a few days ago... but I think they have to come all the way from Israel, might take a couple weeks?
 
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Mr. Me2

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This makes me wonder (being new to this forum) has anyone from GH Labs posted here at FC?

I think some of you have referred to a "Trevor" sometimes, I think? Who is Trevor? Did he invent/design the GH?

Just curious
Yup. If I remember right, Trevor is one of the ghl founders and inventors of this great little device.

And I think I remember something about ghl posting during their startup days, but nothing since they really got rolling. But we do have their monthly newsletters...
 

ZC

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Battery is "dying" after a bowl and a half now. Charger reads 3.9v when it will no longer produce vapor.

I use this thing very lightly, not impressed with how quickly these batteries are degrading.
 

Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
@Vapor_Eyes how is the new body behaving? Any issue with it, besides the aesthetics?

No issues with it besides aesthetics. Interestingly enough the new body for my SS is almost the exact same shade as the Ti unit, and the same shade as the other SS I've seen in the wild. My old SS body is lighter and shinier. I prefer the darker more matte finish. The new one is so similar to the Ti it's hard to tell the difference by looking at it, except for the mismatched mouthpiece.

If you look at them side by side the Ti has a slight reddish tint and is just a tiny bit darker compared to the SS, but it's barely noticeable. The backend itself on the SS is mismatched too but it doesn't look like it because it's behind the clip which is an entirely different finish and color. That helps hide the difference in finish between the backend and body.

I haven't had any issues, but I have noticed something surprising, the flavor is much improved and matches my Ti now. I have mentioned pretty much from the beginning that my SS had a slightly metallic taste. When I got my Ti and it didn't have the metallic taste I figured it was because of the change in materials. I even posted about this recently, and shortly after that someone posted about a metallic taste with their Ti Grasshopper:

I agree with the above points and will add that I seem to get better, more pure flavor from my Ti. My SS has always had a very subtle metallic taste. Others say that their SS has no metallic taste so it could just be me or my specific devices.

My 2nd Hopper (Dark grey) landed...

And no metallic taste, even on the first bowl I tried without burn off or cleaning the unit before use.
Some might remember I didn't enjoy the taste of the plain Ti I had before. I had some metallic flakes in the air intake and i would guess those caused the weird taste I experienced. It was barely visible when looking with a flash light in the air intake holes. I hope the plain Ti replacement is as good as the current dark grey I got...

It seems that the metallic taste was from the body itself. I've examined both bodies and didn't notice any metallic flakes in the intake. It could be that I just don't know what to look for. Either way, it's great that I'm getting the same flavor from my Ti and SS now.

The Grasshopper doesn't have the longest lasting flavor out there, but it is very pure because of the materials used and the convection heating. Even at temp 4, the first hit or two gives me the pure essence of what my material tastes like.

Sometimes I'll pack my hoppers in advance, often with different strains. Occasionally it's so far in advance that I forget what I packed. I can always tell right away which strain it is using the Grasshopper.

The way I use it the flavor doesn't need to last long. I just use a pinch or two at a time so I can have fresh flavor more often. And I find if I go no higher than 4.2 (;)) it never gets that overly roasted taste that I get at higher temps.

My standard usage is a couple of huge flavorful clouds followed by a cleanup hit. My ABV is fairly light usually but that's okay, I save my ABV anyway, I find it can be very helpful in a medical capacity. So anything leftover will be enjoyed eventually. :tup:

Happy Hopping to whoever has one for the Halloween holiday! :evil:
 

ChooChooCharlie

Well-Known Member
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GH tricks & treats earlier tonight.

Treats:
Held GH in hand openly while being frisked. Hey, it's just a pen. Feeder in coat breast pocket was felt by security, along with two batteries, but obviously did not fit the "feel" profile of something nefarious. Was not asked to remove either for show and tell. Great vape, used correctly, but for the first time I noticed the relative brightness of the blue light in the darkened venue.

Tricks:
I screwed up. Didn't figure it out until I got back. I'll never make this mistake again. First set fine, enjoying GH with friends (one wants to buy a GH now). But it was dark in there, and alcohol was involved. Must have been too eager to reload with that fantastic feeder, and didn't empty GH chamber completely. Draws during second set sucked, literally. When I got back home I dug out a well charred puck of ABV stuck in bottom of chamber. Must have done three reloads with the feeder in the dark, never aware of an ABV partial chamber plug, cursing the foul taste, drawing really hard. Now I know. Be sure to remove all of ABV before re-feeding.
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
I screwed up. Didn't figure it out until I got back. I'll never make this mistake again. First set fine, enjoying GH with friends (one wants to buy a GH now). But it was dark in there, and alcohol was involved. Must have been too eager to reload with that fantastic feeder, and didn't empty GH chamber completely. Draws during second set sucked, literally. When I got back home I dug out a well charred puck of ABV stuck in bottom of chamber. Must have done three reloads with the feeder in the dark, never aware of an ABV partial chamber plug, cursing the foul taste, drawing really hard. Now I know. Be sure to remove all of ABV before re-feeding.
DOH!
I was just thinking that one of my best Hopper accessory purchases has been a box of 750pcs wooden toothpicks for $2.79. Scratch-free, disposable, renewable.
Thanks for all the feedback re: the feeder, it sounds excellent for a variety of situations and that it can be done at all in the dark is very cool.
 

CapitalFlower

Well-Known Member
Wait until you see it I can't imagin that you got a special packet which is not marked. Every packet I got from HL was marked in perfect manner yet custom intercepted two. Customs said they do this because they can't be sure that there might be something dangerous in the packet. Here in Germany I pay 3.7€ postage to return a Hopper part, this thing is so small you can send it as regular mail. Well that you have to pay customs goes without saying but still for me the GHVape.com price with taking customs into account is cheaper than ordering from Vapefiend or from a German retailer (-the wait time). Well hopefuly you can enjoy it tho :)

Do you know if GH reimburse return postage if it's faulty? And I wonder if I'd get charged customs again when they send back a return.
 
CapitalFlower,

vapeOR

Well-Known Member
Does anybody use ISO on a q-tip (precision or otherwise) to clean their gh oven?

Do you do a burn off after, or do you go straight back to hopping? And do you just ISO the walls of the chamber?

1st I do a quick brush-out of chamber with dry, craft paintbrush -- when I'm tempted to blow into chamber I reach for the brush instead. ;)

I squeeze excess ISO out of Q-tip so it's damp but no drip, then with hopper upright (chamber at bottom) I reach up and swab screen, around walls & the rim.

If I'm gonna load it right away, I might do a burn off. If things have sat around & I can't smell any ISO then I don't bother -- most likely I forgot I even cleaned it. :D
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Do you do a burn off after, or do you go straight back to hopping? And do you just ISO the walls of the chamber?
Since I can now easily get 99.9 % iso locally I don't worry at all about residue. I don't think I'd worry too much about the 91% either, long as it says the only other thing in there is water. So, no burn off. If anything, I'd be inclined to swab with a little water afterwards, but I don't in hopper. If there's any perfumy smell at all I won't use it.
I do also dab the bottom of the chamber very lightly with the (regular) q-tip. I gotta say, the oven does not get very dirty, just a bit sticky. It's nicer when clean, the spent material just falls out...
 

Shieldsab

Well-Known Member
Thought I'd be fine with one GH battery. Wake and bake this morning, and the battery died after a hit and a half. :( So just placed an order for 2.
On the positive side, once it's charged, I can be sure it'll get through my planned day of relaxation.
But being able to switch will be better.
 

Mr.Sifter

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what is wrong with this hopper ?

When pressed, the red lights come on and disappear again.
No blue, no heat
 
Mr.Sifter,

Kalessin

Well-Known Member
what is wrong with this hopper ?

When pressed, the red lights come on and disappear again.
No blue, no heat
Defective body, most likely. Hold the clicker down and see if it still turns off, or if the light goes blue. If the light goes blue while holding it down it means it's the clicker that's broken. This is the test they'll ask you to do when you submit your warranty request
 

moondog

It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
OK, so I've had my first session with my new hopper. Here's how it went:

I loaded it up, clicked it on, counted to 5, sucked for 5 seconds, clicked off, and sucked for another 5 seconds.

Suddenly, I noticed 2 unicorns frolicking on our front lawn. :whoa:

I heard a host of angels singing a stunning a cappella version of Blind Faith's "Can't Find My Way Home." :whoa::whoa:

Then my wife came in the room to find me still holding the hopper. She looked me up and down and said "My man, you have never looked so sexy. Meet me upstairs when you're done with that thing." :brow:;)

Next I heard a noise outside. I put down the hopper and went to investigate. A Tesla Model S appeared in my driveway with a note card under the driver side wiper: "Welcome to the club. Text me if you want to hang. Elon." :cool:

I came back inside and naturally, I wanted to see what would happen with a second hit, so I picked up the hopper, clicked the clicker and took another hit.

Nothing.:o:ugh::huh::cry:

No heat, no lights, no vapor. OMFG I can't believe it. :rant::cuss::rant:After nearly a year of agonizing waiting my hopper died after one hit. :disgust: Not only that, I happened to look in the mirror and MY TONGUE IS BLUE. Not only did this fracking thing stop working after one hit, IT MADE MY FRACKING TONGUE BL - …oh, wait a minute. Um, never mind. It would appear that I was so heavily hoppered that I picked up the wrong device and sucked really hard on a ball point pen.

Maybe we should add that to the Fixes thread: If your tongue turns blue when using your hopper, you're not using your hopper. You've got the wrong pen. :D

Ok, so it's entirely possible I made some of that up.:p

Here's what really happened:

Finally, a little over 10 months after I ordered them, my hoppers arrived this past Wednesday. Because I procrastinated on ordering support supplies, my Blu Tack (and a nice little storage case) didn't arrive until the following day. I placed my order with Ratchett for some battery sleeves, battery caps, mini funnel, and spiral stand and will hopefully see those before too long.

I received an SS, a plain Ti, and 5 GHB2 batteries. Like everyone else, the leather sleeve I ordered is back ordered.

First thing I did was weep with joy while stroking and fondling my hoppers. Then I clicked each one on to see it reach red light status in 4-5 seconds. Then I tried unscrewing and reattaching each end of each device. The SS threads were fine, with the slightest resistance at the end of each reattachment. The Ti threads were very rough. Definitely in need of cleaning.

Like so many others, I was surprised at how small the hopper is. It definitely looks bigger in pictures. My Ti is noticeably lighter that the SS, but the SS isn't exactly a boat anchor. Bottom line: It's a drop-dead sexy piece of kit.

The next day, armed with newly arrived Blu Tack and some iso, I sat down to clean the SS. (Decided to try them out alphabetically.) The BT came away from the threads with some grey lines but nothing startling. I followed that with an iso-dipped precision swab on threads and a quick swab of the chamber and I left it all to dry for a while. Afterwards, the mouthpiece threading is buttery smooth. No problems on the clicker end but given the pressure caused by contact with the battery, I don't see that end ever screwing as smoothly.

I didn't bother with a burn-off. I just broke off a small piece of a bud and dropped it in the chamber, filling it a little more than 3/4. I set the temp dial to 3.5, clicked the button and 5 seconds later took my first draw. (For each draw, I'm pulling for 5-6 seconds, clicking off, and pulling for another 5-6 seconds.) First impressions:

The taste in those first hits is AMAZING. Best of any vape I've used since my Vapor Brothers. Maybe even better than that.

Hitting natively, the vapor is indeed very hot. I've never felt anything like it. A very concentrated intense stream of hot air. But here’s the thing: It's hot but not harsh, if that makes sense. I can feel the hot stream of air on my tongue, but if I shift the direction of the hopper in my mouth the problem disappears. But without that first contact on the skin, the vapor is not harsh. It feels less harsh than what I've gotten off my convection vapes. With the silicon mouthpiece, the hopper itself was not too hot for my lips.

I definitely was getting some clouds but they were pretty thin and wispy. Can't tell you how many hits I took but when I emptied the chamber half the nugget was dark brown and half was barely touched. It was immediately apparent that I would need to do some technique tweaking to optimize the experience.

Last night I started that tweaking. First thing, I took a glass stem from a disassembled miVape mouthpiece (think slightly shorter MFLB stem) and inserted it into the hopper's silicon mouthpiece. Second, this time I hand ground my herb. Just broke it up with my fingers to a medium/large consistency and loaded the chamber 3/4 full - nice and fluffed. Click on; 5 seconds later, first hit.

SWEET BISCUITS AND GRAVY !!!!!!!! What a difference a "grind" makes. Nice satisfying clouds with a kick like a mule. The glass stem definitely cools things off and provides some nice feedback. The stem starts to heat up, telling me to click off and finish my draw. With a longer piece, through tubing, or through water, heat will NOT be a problem for me. And even natively, it's very manageable and a totally worth it trade-off for the hopper's quickness, stealthiness, and mule-kick hits.

And because it's convection, I could take two hits, watch a TV show with my wife, take another 2 hits, watch another show myself, take one more hit before bed, and empty a chamber of nicely, evenly browned ABV. This thing is gonna be a godsend for pain-relieving micro-dosing.

BTW, my back end has stayed totally cool through both these sessions. I'm still on my first battery although my blue lights are starting to flicker. At this point it's been 8 or nine hits over two sessions.

Clearly, I have more learning and technique refining to do :science:, but at this point I am totally happy with my new little buddy.

I'm sure I'll have more to share and questions galore as my hoppers and I get to know each other.
 
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vapviking

Old & In the Way
what is wrong with this hopper ?

When pressed, the red lights come on and disappear again.
No blue, no heat
Defective body, most likely. Hold the clicker down and see if it still turns off, or if the light goes blue. If the light goes blue while holding it down it means it's the clicker that's broken. This is the test they'll ask you to do when you submit your warranty request

I just made a claim on same light pattern. Click on, light red for a second or two, then off. No heat. When I described this in the claim, I added that the same thing happened when I placed a known working Back end on the misbehaving body, still red to off, quickly.
Sorry I don't remember what happened when I held the clicker down, but I do know it did not go blue, ever. I was not asked to do this test, likely because of the self diagnosis via second hopper backend.
I got response next day that a new body would be shipped out to me soon, then I am to return the old one.

There's a flow chart about light patterns on the HL website, or you can see it on the Grasshopper Fixes thread.
 
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