Discontinued The Grasshopper

[Mr. Me2]

I had the markings on the first 2 body parts and I thought they were the signs that my hopper decreased performance. I hope your explanation is correct because on the first body I just received the stripes appeared after 1 use.

That sounds more like heat reaction displaying some machining marks. Like a residue. But I’m not an engineer, so I hope others weigh in with their best guess.

You could email ghl with your description and maybe some pictures for their

 

[mario]

I have to say HL were really good with me on changing the 2 bodies I had and unlike many here I can say my CS experience since my first purchase on May 18 was really good with 1 day response max both in warranty msgs and support emails.

This was more or less my experience with them since May when I bought mine. It's been a long road, but the body I have on my Hopper now ( a v5 ) is working amazingly and hasn't dropped in performance at all since I got it. I am hoping this means that HL is back on the upswing, because there really isn't anything like a Hopper Hit.

 

[nonbeliever]

One of my V5 bodies is on the fritz again.... took only 11 days after receipt. Has stopped heating (blue led turn on seems too quick again),

I haven’t used the other one more than once or twice since.... my new Lil Bud has become my daily driver. It works every time, tastes great, and is pretty much bullet proof. I do hope the HL folks manage to get it right, but I can’t do this anymore with them.... I just want a unit that works... this is supposed to keep my blood pressure down, not raise it... lol

 

[Rel2018]

That sounds more like heat reaction displaying some machining marks. Like a residue. But I’m not an engineer, so I hope others weigh in with their best guess.

You could email ghl with your description and maybe some pictures for their

I did, and they said it’s the clip contacting the body

 

[vapviking]

I did, and they said it’s the clip contacting the body

The marks are hardly noticeable on an older SS I have, a bit more noticeable on the Ti and on a Green Ti, which is a light color, the marks happened quickest and are the most visible. Overall, I've come to like the way the SS shell has worn in, smooth to the touch and very smooth threads.

The Green Ti, btw probably has V4 internals, got it in July '18, and it's been delightful.

The plain Ti will is currently attending Reform School, long term.

The SS will go on for every session, but only with a few certain procedures to cajole it. Once it engages (warms up a bit?), it will behave great, clicking off then back on for each hit with no problem. I am sure the body is the culprit, because with other back ends on it, it does the same thing.
For initially powering on, I only click halfway down and look at what the light is doing. If solid red, that's good, I click the rest of the way and off we go. If cop lights, release the plunger and try again. If straight to blue, release the plunger and try again. If no lights, I hit the Hopper body against a hard object, maybe more than once, and try again. Sometimes I slightly loosen/re-tighten the whole back end and this alone allows clicker to achieve power-on. Keep trying, repeating all the above until it works, and so far, this is still working. It has been months now (version # unknown, but last warranty repair was in Feb '17).

To be sure, I've had several other bodies turn bad and in those cases, ambulance lights (or other faults) mean just that, d.o.a.

 

[Easywider]

Has any experienced issues with their GH not turning on when the back end is "fully" tightened ?
As soon as I fully tighten my backend it stops working, It needs about 1/2 turn ccw to start functioning again. Im baffled

 

[Vaporific]

Has any experienced issues with their GH not turning on when the back end is "fully" tightened ?
As soon as I fully tighten my backend it stops working, It needs about 1/2 turn ccw to start functioning again. Im baffled

Me. After almost 2.5 years my pre-order Ti stopped working completely. Tried all my batteries, cleaned it completely, fully tightened backend (it’s always tightened) - and I sent it in for it’s first RMA last month. No update or status on it yet nor am
I expecting one soon. I however will press HL for an update in a few weeks. Good luck - sounds like many of us need it...

 

[SmokeyTheBeard]

Has any experienced issues with their GH not turning on when the back end is "fully" tightened ?
As soon as I fully tighten my backend it stops working, It needs about 1/2 turn ccw to start functioning again. Im baffled

This is exactly what is happening to mine right now. I had to open an warranty claim.

 

[tylerj55]

Me. After almost 2.5 years my pre-order Ti stopped working completely. Tried all my batteries, cleaned it completely, fully tightened backend (it’s always tightened) - and I sent it in for it’s first RMA last month. No update or status on it yet nor am
I expecting one soon. I however will press HL for an update in a few weeks. Good luck - sounds like many of us need it...

My ti has been in since January, and now they are saying it’s in the “final phase of testing.” This is after telling me it would be done in August, the moving it to yesterday at the latest. Don’t count on getting yours back anytime soon.

 

[Baron23]

My ti has been in since January, and now they are saying it’s in the “final phase of testing.” This is after telling me it would be done in August, the moving it to yesterday at the latest. Don’t count on getting yours back anytime soon.

Bit off topic, but nice looking Atom in your profile. I just bought one with the disk drop down...what a piece!

 

[Zow237]

My ti has been in since January, and now they are saying it’s in the “final phase of testing.” This is after telling me it would be done in August, the moving it to yesterday at the latest. Don’t count on getting yours back anytime soon.

Same here. They have been telling me my unit from January is close but it goes from a definite time frame to who knows basically. My ss body is ready and now I'm just waiting on the ti unit to be done for them to send both

 

[Vaporific]

My ti has been in since January, and now they are saying it’s in the “final phase of testing.” This is after telling me it would be done in August, the moving it to yesterday at the latest. Don’t count on getting yours back anytime soon.

Nope, not expecting it back any time soon. Whether it works or not is another question - TBD...

 

[Easywider]

Thanks for the replies ! @Vaporific @SmokeyTheBeard have you noticed any loss in overall performance ? Or just the annoyance of having to unscrew the back end until it reaches the magical position to where it wants to work. I just started using my GH again today since it arrived back from it's 6month RMA.

 

[SmokeyTheBeard]

Thanks for the replies ! @Vaporific @SmokeyTheBeard have you noticed any loss in overall performance ? Or just the annoyance of having to unscrew the back end until it reaches the magical position to where it wants to work. I just started using my GH again today since it arrived back from it's 6month RMA.

I feel like mine has been inconsistent since it started having backend issues. Sometimes it extracts better than other times at the same temperature setting. I should be getting a new backend in the next couple weeks through my warranty claim.

 

[tylerj55]

Bit off topic, but nice looking Atom in your profile. I just bought one with the disk drop down...what a piece!

Thank you! I need to change it as I broke the mouthpiece off about a year ago! Be careful, they are great pieces but the mouthpiece isn’t the strongest. Mine broke from being knocked over onto its side while on carpet.

 

[Vaporific]

Thanks for the replies ! @Vaporific @SmokeyTheBeard have you noticed any loss in overall performance ? Or just the annoyance of having to unscrew the back end until it reaches the magical position to where it wants to work. I just started using my GH again today since it arrived back from it's 6month RMA.

I got my Ti in July ‘16 - indeed a preorder. It worked well at the beginning, mostly at 3.7-3.9, usually with silicone tip; I had one bad battery in my first batch too which didn’t help. Brought it to Amsterdam shortly after getting it and so far so good. A couple months later I noticed the clouds were getting thinner, not that I’m a cloud chaser mind you. Tried a new batch of batteries and the vapor production still had dropped off. By this time I’d nearly lost my silicone tip a few times and it was nearly useless and warped so I went without it - for a year. The unit generally was running warm to hot more often than not. At the end of Summer the power button started to misbehave. I gave up, secured a backup vape and sent my Ti for its first RMA last month.

So YES, overall degradation of performance. And my backend is always on tight and my threads are clean enough to secure contact with the body. I also clean the battery contacts too occasionally. And soak the front end in ISO often. And brush out the chamber and front end almost after every use. It’s a shame it hasn’t performed consistently otherwise it would be awesome. Perhaps again soon, i.e. when it comes back from RMA and works as good as new...

 

[fogbank]

https://www.grasshoppervape.com/blog/grasshopper-cleaning-and-maintenance/

Important DON'Ts:

• Do not use any conductive grease or other substance on your threads or back-end. While the application of this conductive grease in the proper way will not hurt your device, the tight tolerances make it very easy to create a short circuit, ruining your Hopper.

Also note that the information regarding the use of De-Oxit was removed from the "Grasshopper Fixes" thread on 12/1/2016:

New warning relating to the warranty, added a warning for the twisting temp dial fix and added a tip for mouthpiece screen removal.

Removed posts relating to Deoxit products.

Vapor_Eyes, Dec 1, 2016 Report Like

I think that cleaning the back end threads with Blu-Tack can be helpful in certain circumstances, but the residue on the threads is not always associated with performance issues. I decided to clean all of my Hopper back-ends with Blu-Tack recently. The one that had the most residue/grime was the one that has always worked best for me. No RMAs, no heating issues, no weird lights, etc...

 

[Vaporific]

Also note that the information regarding the use of De-Oxit was removed from the "Grasshopper Fixes" thread on 12/1/2016:


I think that cleaning the back end threads with Blu-Tack can be helpful in certain circumstances, but the residue on the threads is not always associated with performance issues. I decided to clean all of my Hopper back-ends with Blu-Tack recently. The one that had the most residue/grime was the one that has always worked best for me. No RMAs, no heating issues, no weird lights, etc...

So which is best - De-oxit or Blu-Tack for cleaning threads??

 

[fogbank]

So which is best - De-oxit or Blu-Tack for cleaning threads??

I've never tried DeOxit and I never will, based on the Hopper Labs recommendation not to put "any other substance" on the threads or back end.

Blu-Tack works well for me. You're not actually applying a substance to the threads, just using it to pick up the residue.

 

[Zow237]

My v5 ss body is ready and the v5 ti is in testing. Said they will be shipped together shortly. Whatever shortly means haha. Ss took a few weeks for the rma to be done and then the ti was there since January haha

 

[elykpeace]

SS hopper came in yesterday. Have had a couple opportunities to test it with a couple batteries (including the new one) and it seems it's stuck at temp 4 .. doesn't have that oomph like the ti.. kinda bummed but Sachin I'm sure has me covered.

 

[Hammahead]

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I've never tried DeOxit and I never will, based on the Hopper Labs recommendation not to put "any other substance" on the threads or back end.

Blu-Tack works well for me. You're not actually applying a substance to the threads, just using it to pick up the residue.

I get how one wouldn't want to spray a liquid on the backend thread with the visible tiny PCB and especially nothing conductive. That being said, I bought some DeoxIt wipes which are not moist at all, just feel a little oily, so I believe it couldn't hurt that much. There is only very little of that stuff on these wipes, I wasn't even sure if they maybe dried out, but google told me that's how they are supposed to be. Also the sealed packs still kept the air inside them. So, anyway, there is not even enough liquid on these wipes that I could squeeze out a drop of it.

The wipe didn't take much off the backend thread, but after cleaning the body thread the wipe was pretty soiled. What can I cay, it works so much better after that... backend only gets a little warm, never hot, it's faster on blue and extracting better. BluTac (well, a german brand just like it) didn't really do anything of that extent for me. I definitely plan on using that stuff on a regular base but will be very cautious avoiding wetting the surface.

 

[newVaper420]

I mostly used my Mighty over here. Hopper got no love. In airport awaiting return. No issues with Mighty or Hopper in bag (or the numerous gummies and 4 carts I brought back). Waiting to get on plane lmao :-)

 

[mario]

I just bought a SS hopper off of Reddit (great deal) so I can have a backup. I don't know why I'm doing this to myself. I guess I just can't get over how good the Hopper works when it is working. Still loving my Ti right now and is basically my daily driver, hasn't given me any problems.

 

[elykpeace]

I just bought a SS hopper off of Reddit (great deal) so I can have a backup. I don't know why I'm doing this to myself. I guess I just can't get over how good the Hopper works when it is working. Still loving my Ti right now and is basically my daily driver, hasn't given me any problems.

My backup SS has been alright. The ti deff got hotter. And I get bliking lights occasionally


Been hoping to get a V5 body and fix my ti... Then just send in the body to be fixed so I can get a spare body for emergency .. we will see how long it takes