Discontinued The Grasshopper

JoeMama

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I wonder when HL will add that MP screen tip in the Fix thread to their "Tips".

So I'm here to second @travis 's recommendation in his post
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-grasshopper.18482/page-543#post-1055437

Regarding this leather case.

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It's just perfect. In fact, HL can keep their leather cases, this one has got to be way better than what they will provide for "free". The leather is soft and buttery, and really snug. Now I can just slip the case in my back pocket without worrying about that fucking clip. I've already bent it once by accident (luckily it bent back). I don't put the hopper in with the clip on the outside like in this picture; I put the whole Hopper inside, including the clip. It goes nicely deep, and the clicker sits well protected but completely accessible.

So if anyone is looking for a nice solid sleeping bag for your Hopper, this is the one.
 
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MoltenTiger

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it seems kind of dumb to even have a T1 setting
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Picture from the GHV indiegogo campaign. Cannabis isn't the only herb worth vaping on, extracting essential oils for inhalation offers better efficacy than most other methods (proper use is usually by tincture, which like with edibles is going to primarily be processed via the liver, changing active compounds with metabolising enzyme action into different chemicals, where vaping introduces them directly to the blood).
I don't imagine there are a lot of people out there vaping tangerine peel, but there are a lot of herbs out there, the more interesting ones aren't mentioned in the pic

And it's worth mentioning how tasty temp one hits can be with the right strain, there'd be enough released from cannabis to notice a mood change potentially too.


I've also never had any luck with fixing flickering blue lights, it seems to be primarily battery related in a working unit. My dodgy back end does it, no amount of adjusting fixes it and it performs inadequately. I'm still waiting on a replacement, I think the one sent out either was lost in the post or overlooked and never posted. This has been my most annoying HL experience yet, time to shoot another email...
 

JoeMama

Well-Known Member
20131115230926-plants.jpg

Picture from the GHV indiegogo campaign. Cannabis isn't the only herb worth vaping on, extracting essential oils for inhalation offers better efficacy than most other methods (proper use is usually by tincture, which like with edibles is going to primarily be processed via the liver, changing active compounds with metabolising enzyme action into different chemicals, where vaping introduces them directly to the blood).
I don't imagine there are a lot of people out there vaping tangerine peel, but there are a lot of herbs out there, the more interesting ones aren't mentioned in the pic

And it's worth mentioning how tasty temp one hits can be with the right strain, there'd be enough released from cannabis to notice a mood change potentially too.


I've also never had any luck with fixing flickering blue lights, it seems to be primarily battery related in a working unit. My dodgy back end does it, no amount of adjusting fixes it and it performs inadequately. I'm still waiting on a replacement, I think the one sent out either was lost in the post or overlooked and never posted. This has been my most annoying HL experience yet, time to shoot another email...
Well, I am very happy to say that I've learned something today. :tup:

While I'd always known (even talked about) how the hopper is useful for vaping other herbs, I'd been ignorant of the temps required for these non-cannabis herbs. I'd even been a bit perplexed over the idea of inhaling a cloud of, say, eucalyptus; didn't quite seem right. So I was obviously missing the idea that the detectable florals (assuming that's what the therapeutic ingredient is) may only need a bit of warmth to be efficiently extracted, and, that, possibly, using a "cloud-yielding" temperature would in fact definitely not be what one is after when vaping non-cannabis herbs.

So thanks, Molten! Now I'm even more interested in vaping other stuff, since I can now imagine that I'm not going for clouds (generally, at least) in those cases.

And that chart is great, too... I've seen others, but this one is just right. :tup:
 

Purple Lava Lamp

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HL could use a proof reader. In the 5 Tips, the Heading to #3 says Frim for firm, and in #4 midgate s/b mitigate. I know we're now in the "post-literate" age, but...

No kidding... these obvious errors make me cringe. Maybe because it's part of my day job to make sure my company's official marketing doesn't have glaring mistakes like this.
 

Elac

Silly rabbit trips are for kids
Speaking of 'herbs', anyone try Salvia in their grasshopper? Or any other vaporizer?
 
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MoltenTiger

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Speaking of 'herbs', anyone try Salvia in their grasshopper? Or any other vaporizer?
The active compound in Salvia Divinorum is Salvinorin A, it has a boiling point of ~564°C and a flash point of ~295°C. Unfortunately, the Grasshopper, and probably every other commercial vaporizer, is unable to achieve the temps required
 

biohacker

HREAM
The GH is simply insane....I love it! Got the technique down (not much to it, just used to other vapes), and my ABV is always perfect now! Wife is hitting it on 2-3, gets visible clouds and then I finish it off on 5 and whitewall city!

Already have wife approval for another SS and Ti! Don't think i've ever had 4 of the same vape before!

I am the 3rd owner of both of these vapes!
 
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Bass Vaper

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Happy to report that the new Blue Ti body came today. Best service I've received to date. Warranty request in on Fri, resolved by Tue. Kudos for a good job here. I haven't used it yet, will later.

The chargers they've had since Sat 11/26. The first reply back came Fri 12/2 that said (paraphrasing) 'got your package, it's sitting here with some others I haven't looked at yet'. Ha. They're still troubleshooting as of today.

Update is all. Not life altering.
 

JoeMama

Well-Known Member
No kidding... these obvious errors make me cringe. Maybe because it's part of my day job to make sure my company's official marketing doesn't have glaring mistakes like this.

Ditto... That thing called "spellcheck", even. I ask myself, "doesn't he/she see the little red squiggly line underneath those words on the screen?" This is among the many stupefying wonders that make my brain hurt.

I am the 3rd owner of both of these vapes!
Bio, you saying that those hoppers have been owned by two previous owners who didn't like them??
Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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biohacker

HREAM
Bio, you saying that those hoppers have been owned by two previous owners who didn't like them??
Inquiring minds want to know.

Yep two forum members actually... just VAS type stuff, people like us have a far worse problem....in 6 months we'll probably trade our vapes back again! lol

Once I get settled in my new place I can't wait to get some milk vids up! I simply can't even believe how thick it milks up. Other than the e-nano, I don't think i've seen anything milk like it? EVO doesn't milk like that?!
 
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Not sure if anyone's said this yet, but flask funnels are the perfect fit for super easy loading. It stays in place with minimal force. Stainless steel so they match your grasshopper and they're very cheap on amazon. Plus if you flip it upside down, it makes for a makeshift dock.

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MoltenTiger

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Looks like it should work according to this https://erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=3139 as 277C is possible with linked vaporizer.
Interesting read.
It'd be worth trying it in the GH (if you have salvia readily available), it might work given the properties of salvinorin stated.
Vaping it might not be the most efficient way to use it, but it's hard to say if setting it on fire would actually be better.
 

biohacker

HREAM
@TomatoChub Thanks for the flask funnel heads up! That's GOLD..... are they all pretty much standard size? Do you have a link for yours? I've been using a "smidgen" measure spoon with a tiny poker tool.

Pretty sure you can't properly load more than say 0.1g in the hopper with proper airflow?

I've also been noticing that airflow starts to get negatively affected on the hopper with a fine grind. A coarse grind wasn't getting the vape even, but i'm finding a medium consistency grind to work the best for me.
 

Mr. Me2

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@TomatoChub Thanks for the flask funnel heads up! That's GOLD..... are they all pretty much standard size? Do you have a link for yours? I've been using a "smidgen" measure spoon with a tiny poker tool.

Pretty sure you can't properly load more than say 0.1g in the hopper with proper airflow?

I've also been noticing that airflow starts to get negatively affected on the hopper with a fine grind. A coarse grind wasn't getting the vape even, but i'm finding a medium consistency grind to work the best for me.
Have you seen @Ratchett's mini scoop and poker? It was designed for the gh and works great (I recommend using it with one of his gh stands).
 
Last night i tried it outside it was about 30 degrees. Could not make it work using all tricks. Got home. When it warmed up it worked normally. Almost for sure battery issues. I am surprised more people have not seen. Mine when cold showed red never blue and cop lights.
 
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moondog

It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
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JoeMama

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Ohboyohboyohboy! Nice jump on the newsletter, @moondog !

As we are a "group" here, shall we consider nominating a FC Hopper Blogger?

Maybe we can assemble some "topics" and have it posted en masse? It sure would make it easy... for all of us except the one we nominate LOL:lol:

But I don't get the email address.. that's not a "blog". Far as I know, at least.
 

moondog

It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
Ohboyohboyohboy! Nice jump on the newsletter, @moondog !

Aw shucks. 'T'weren't nothin'.

As we are a "group" here, shall we consider nominating a FC Hopper Blogger?

Maybe we can assemble some "topics" and have it posted en masse? It sure would make it easy... for all of us except the one we nominate LOL:lol:

But I don't get the email address.. that's not a "blog". Far as I know, at least.

Well, the time tested method for this sort of election is to "elect" the person who isn't at the meeting.:D

Anyway, I guess the email address is because the blog is on their website, but I don't know all that much about these newfangled internetty gizmos.:myday:
 

MoltenTiger

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HL could use a better editor :freak:
Nonetheless, an interesting development.

Here's the full blog excerpt
WELCOME TO THE HOPPER LABS BLOG

In this blog we’ll talk user tips, company updates, how we built the Hopper, and answer any questions you post on forums, social media, or send to us directly. Today we're talking about what sets the Grasshopper apart from other vaporizers on the market.

Many of you know the Grasshopper is a pure convection vaporizer, but we still get lots of questions about what that means.

The Hopper holds dry herbs in a chamber. The chamber is separated from a very powerful heating element by a screen. When you turn the Grasshopper on, the LED lights will be red to indicate the device is heating. Then, the LED Lights will turn blue showing the heating element has reached the temperature you set on the dial.

At this point, the herbs in your chamber are not warm. When you take a draw, you’re pulling air through the heater. This heated (air) passes over the herbs causing vaporization. At no point do the herbs come into direct contact with the heater.

Once the herbs are vaporized, the vapor (only travels) a short distance before reaching the user. This is different from most other vaporizers, which (generally) have a longer vapor pathway. Long vapor pathways allow (more) time for oil to condense, creating (a less) efficient experience and making a sticky mess.

Imagine a kettle of boiling water. You can stick you(r) head directly over the steam and inhale, or you could run the steam down (through?) a long glass tube and inhale the steam that was coming out the end. The difference would be that water, or condensation, would build up all along the inside of the glass tube. This condensation is what happens with devices with a long vapor path.
(This is a bit of a strange comparison, whilst it instils the idea of recondensation, it's not really a great analogy for vaping between different devices. That is more similar to a short stem/long stem difference (when inhaling steam through a straw), where the GH simply has a shorter, less constrictive path with less surface area to collect resin. It certainly still does collect resin, just not heaps of it quickly like a lot of other options).

Together, the short vapor path and convection heating result in efficient vaporization. It’s quick and effective. You also don’t miss out on any of the active ingredients because the short vapor path results in no (minimal!) residue build up. These design features mean the Grasshopper isn't (made to be) used like other vaporizers because the Hopper is packed full of power! So, to get the best use out of it (and your batteries), you shouldn’t take long, slow draws. This method isn't ideal for the Hopper because of two reasons:

  1. A slow draw amplifies the time you are exposed to hot vapor. The short vapor path means the vapor coming out is hot and the density of active ingredients is high. Don't make the mistake of thinking a longer draw is always better.
  2. A longer draw will allow unnecessary heat to build up throughout the device. The Hopper will become unpleasantly warm on the exterior.
We recommend firm draws that last about 10-20 seconds. Since the Grasshopper is so effective, that’s all you need to get a solid hit. We also recommend clicking off your device right (just?) before the end or right after your draw. This will save your battery life and give your Hopper a moment to cool off before your next hit. If you’re passing the Hopper to a friend, (you can) continue to pull air through the device after clicking it off so that the vapor and device will cool off (down?) before handing it over.

Do you have any usage tips? What are your favorite ways to use the Grasshopper? Share your photos or videos with us or send questions and the topics you want to be discussed on this blog at blog@grasshoppervape.com.

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The last tidbit with 10-20s draws is interesting, I typically drag at 15-30s (herb-kief) and I do wonder about the internal thermal dynamics. If I was to cut my inhale capacity in thirds, would I have better efficacy from the active material from repetative exposure, or is it better for blood concentration, and hence effect, to squeeze in the maximum quantity of vapour?
I feel like taking one big hit has more effect than having a few small hits. Perhaps in quick succession the efficacy is similar?
How much degradation does the GH inflict to a chambers worth over time? It seems to waste very little inbetween draws, but if it cools down between hits, how long does that typically take (it is partially insulated) and how reaccessible are the compounds after initial thermal change? Decarboxylation will occur resulting in higher concentrations of d9THC from THCA, but at what rate does this occur? Is it possible that staggered hits produce higher concentrations of this key psychoactive constituent during the second hit after acids have been converted? Or is it instantaneous meaning it happens when it's heated so staggering will not affect concentration?
How much Lab can the hopper guys bring

I read someone on this forum made some worthwhile changes to their usage after the latest tips and tricks update, so perhaps when today's hopping comes around I will review that and try to mix it up a little.
Though last night I finished with a couple of rounds of kief bombs, so my tolerance is up there
 
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ArthurJ

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How realistic is the 3-4 weeks it says to ship if I buy a new hopper. Are they still backed up?

They have said that they will be caught up with pre-orders this week, at least that's how I understood last weeks message. I've been waiting since March and I'm expecting a shipping confirmation any day.

Whether they can get a new order shipped in 3-4 weeks or not is anybody's guess, I think.
 
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