Discontinued The Grasshopper

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
A random new OR refurbished GH, I would imagine, should each require the same great care in testing prior to shipment. This time around, being a refurbed review unit, it probably got a very thorough exam, which the original new unit may not have received to the same extent or not at all - IDK. Hopefully they are learning and applying valuable lessons as they go.
 

vapemon

Well-Known Member
Thats alright then, you can see why many of us are a bit annoyed, specifically us early backers, but I get it.
Im annoyed as fuck and yes it is very strange to send a refurb for a review..so f it dies as hes using it and reviewing it..does that even count towards the quality or review or will the excuse be oh it was just a refurb, no biggie?

Nah
 
vapemon,

peaceonearth

High since 1968
Im annoyed as fuck and yes it is very strange to send a refurb for a review..so f it dies as hes using it and reviewing it..does that even count towards the quality or review or will the excuse be oh it was just a refurb, no biggie?

Nah
Refurb means being brought back to manufacturer specs. EDIT: IMO if the refurb were to fail, it would look worse than if he had been sent a new unit. As it is, the only prob has been a faulty sensor which is usually not a big deal... but certainly would expect it to be fixed for anything going out since that was discovered.
 
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mindful1

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Anybody else having trouble accessing Hopper Labs' web-site, grasshoppervape.com? Here's what I'm getting:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, david@grasshoppervape.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.:shrug:
 

vapebuddy13

Your resident Super Hero
Anybody else having trouble accessing Hopper Labs' web-site, grasshoppervape.com? Here's what I'm getting:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, david@grasshoppervape.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.:shrug:
possible random site update? aka yeah Im getting it too


edit: back up
 
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Mr Mellish

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Anybody else having trouble accessing Hopper Labs' web-site, grasshoppervape.com? Here's what I'm getting:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, david@grasshoppervape.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.:shrug:

Second Head: "They've buggered off!"

Third Head: "So they have. They've scampered!"
 
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Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
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A/K/A "The Grasshopper" threads -
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mindful1

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Chinese product reps? :\
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Oh no --- they're cancelled too! What is this with Grasshopper delays and cancellations?! :D

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Date Location Event Details Find Tickets
Jul 4 Sat 08:00 PM
Canceled
MGM Grand Garden Arena Las Vegas, NV
Grasshopper currently not on sale

Anybody else having trouble accessing Hopper Labs' web-site, grasshoppervape.com? Here's what I'm getting:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, david@grasshoppervape.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.:shrug:

EDIT: They're back up! Yay!:clap:
 
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slcbdco

Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
Before anyone panics, remember I live literally across the street from Hopper Labs. The only unit that has been delivered to me is the holiday backer SS. I did order a Ti as a regular backer but I have NOT received it.


But I did get to do a taste test comparison between an SS and Blue Ti this afternoon!

First general observations about the two units.

Weight: The weight difference is substantial. I can see some folks preferring the additional heft of the SS but that is subjective.

Dial and Threads: The TI coloring makes the device slightly coarser. As a result the dial and thread pieces are just a little harder to spin. For the dial it also makes it a little more precise to spin but these are differences you would only notice using both types back to back.

Now to my experiment.

I wanted to see if there was a difference in flavor between the two. (Mind you this all happened this afternoon and I've had several GIM's (Grasshopper Inspire Misadventures ;-) so I may forget some details.

I took a pinch of some Dark Blue Dream from Terrapin Care Station in Boulder ( terrapincarestation.com ) and loaded each vape. It is a 19% THC Blue Dream cross for those keeping score.

I set them both to 3 took two hits each then up to 4 two more hits then killed the bowl with a bubble at 5.

My observations were:

Both have excellent flavor however I did taste more terpenes with the Ti and it was noticeable. Again not to denegrate the SS it's excellent, the Ti is just better.

On the other hand, because the Ti is more efficient, the SS actually holds on to flavor longer. Well at least that was my thesis during the experiment and the ABV seemed to support it as the Ti ABV is slightly darker.

The pics below show the amount I used and the the ABV. The combined amount between the two hoppers was about the size of a firefly bowl or almost filled my glass bowl. And yes for the record I smoked that bowl after for you know ... science ;-)

Anyway I want to drive home the point about the efficiency. I was ruhl high from that small session, I have no idea why I smoked that bowl except I was thinking it would be an interesting twist to the bong game zonk, which of course I was thinking that because I was ruhl high.

Anyway, my conclusion is that I'm glad I ordered a Ti because I think a. A grasshopper is better when everyone has their own. A lot of the convenience issues folks are talking about on here assume there will only be on grasshopper in the room. Like an iPhone, it gets more useful when other people have one also so it will be "useful" to have two grasshoppers around so I don't have to share if any of my friends dont get their own (fww, it's been pretty popular and friends have already ordered on after trying it)

b. The Ti is a more connesiuer product. I hope I see Jake Browne at the Cannabist soon, I think the Denver Post will have to buy him one as a reporting tool! You really do get richer more complex flavor out of the Ti and I'm only a rookie snob and I can tell. I think Jake would smash his Neti pot hehe.

c. With the Ti less is definitely more because it's ripping through those terpenes faster. I would definitely use the pinch method with the Ti and if you really want to session, well for one, you must have some crazy tolerance and you may be missing the point of this vape but if you want to do it anyway you may actually prefer the SS because flavor lasts for more hits, it's not better it's just longer ... that's what she said!

Of course the trade off is the SS gets hotter faster but like I said sessioning is missing the point in my opinion much like asking what the apple watch "can do" is missing the point, it's tool to help you recognize what things you can ignore and NOT do.

The grasshopper is for, hey I noticed I'm not high, that's stupid because I've met me before, let me turn on my Tres Seis Dope Machine taking a full delicious flavorful puffs because I'm from Colorado and thereofore a defacto cannabis 1%er and then I will be ruhl high and I'll put it back in my pocket until I want to do that again later. Where do I happen to be? Who cares because it's going to take less than 10 seconds unless I accidentally take too big a first rip so I have to wait a second or two before the next one. When I want to cheif a spliff for 10 minutes I'll roll one ... or use my pax2 if it's lousy outside. That is not what the GH is for. The GH is for when you want to treat yo self and get back to what you were doing.

One more anecdote my friends started calling it the nuerolizer like from Men in Black cus you look at the light and then you can't remember anything hehe!

One more thing, I went to Chez Thuy for dinner which is down the street from hopper labs and they were still cranking at 9:30. I know it's easy for me to say but hang in there guys. The Hopper boys really are taking the time to put a product out that will be the industry standard the way the pax was for awhile.

When you finally get yours you'll agree it was worth the wait and I am totally eager to get the Ti now, if I was to only get one, I would get the Ti it's a significant upgrade considering the price differnce.

I'm not sure if when I finally get my Ti if I will use my SS for my mixed herb/tobacco blend and retire my pax 2 or not. The pax2 actually shines in that application and frankly I think that much nicotine you would get from vaping tobacco in a GH might make me go Nick Naylor (hehe some lobbyist humor).

Hope that was useful but like I said I've been doing science so I might have just written an essay about muffins for all I know.


http://imgur.com/ISbxYPa
http://imgur.com/MtI6L4m
http://imgur.com/VKZxK2w
http://imgur.com/IjNxf4I
 

inuhuion

Well-Known Member
Before anyone panics, remember I live literally across the street from Hopper Labs. The only unit that has been delivered to me is the holiday backer SS. I did order a Ti as a regular backer but I have NOT received it.


But I did get to do a taste test comparison between an SS and Blue Ti this afternoon!

First general observations about the two units.

Weight: The weight difference is substantial. I can see some folks preferring the additional heft of the SS but that is subjective.

Dial and Threads: The TI coloring makes the device slightly coarser. As a result the dial and thread pieces are just a little harder to spin. For the dial it also makes it a little more precise to spin but these are differences you would only notice using both types back to back.

Now to my experiment.

I wanted to see if there was a difference in flavor between the two. (Mind you this all happened this afternoon and I've had several GIM's (Grasshopper Inspire Misadventures ;-) so I may forget some details.

I took a pinch of some Dark Blue Dream from Terrapin Care Station in Boulder ( terrapincarestation.com ) and loaded each vape. It is a 19% THC Blue Dream cross for those keeping score.

I set them both to 3 took two hits each then up to 4 two more hits then killed the bowl with a bubble at 5.

My observations were:

Both have excellent flavor however I did taste more terpenes with the Ti and it was noticeable. Again not to denegrate the SS it's excellent, the Ti is just better.

On the other hand, because the Ti is more efficient, the SS actually holds on to flavor longer. Well at least that was my thesis during the experiment and the ABV seemed to support it as the Ti ABV is slightly darker.

The pics below show the amount I used and the the ABV. The combined amount between the two hoppers was about the size of a firefly bowl or almost filled my glass bowl. And yes for the record I smoked that bowl after for you know ... science ;-)

Anyway I want to drive home the point about the efficiency. I was ruhl high from that small session, I have no idea why I smoked that bowl except I was thinking it would be an interesting twist to the bong game zonk, which of course I was thinking that because I was ruhl high.

Anyway, my conclusion is that I'm glad I ordered a Ti because I think a. A grasshopper is better when everyone has their own. A lot of the convenience issues folks are talking about on here assume there will only be on grasshopper in the room. Like an iPhone, it gets more useful when other people have one also so it will be "useful" to have two grasshoppers around so I don't have to share if any of my friends dont get their own (fww, it's been pretty popular and friends have already ordered on after trying it)

b. The Ti is a more connesiuer product. I hope I see Jake Browne at the Cannabist soon, I think the Denver Post will have to buy him one as a reporting tool! You really do get richer more complex flavor out of the Ti and I'm only a rookie snob and I can tell. I think Jake would smash his Neti pot hehe.

c. With the Ti less is definitely more because it's ripping through those terpenes faster. I would definitely use the pinch method with the Ti and if you really want to session, well for one, you must have some crazy tolerance and you may be missing the point of this vape but if you want to do it anyway you may actually prefer the SS because flavor lasts for more hits, it's not better it's just longer ... that's what she said!

Of course the trade off is the SS gets hotter faster but like I said sessioning is missing the point in my opinion much like asking what the apple watch "can do" is missing the point, it's tool to help you recognize what things you can ignore and NOT do.

The grasshopper is for, hey I noticed I'm not high, that's stupid because I've met me before, let me turn on my Tres Seis Dope Machine taking a full delicious flavorful puffs because I'm from Colorado and thereofore a defacto cannabis 1%er and then I will be ruhl high and I'll put it back in my pocket until I want to do that again later. Where do I happen to be? Who cares because it's going to take less than 10 seconds unless I accidentally take too big a first rip so I have to wait a second or two before the next one. When I want to cheif a spliff for 10 minutes I'll roll one ... or use my pax2 if it's lousy outside. That is not what the GH is for. The GH is for when you want to treat yo self and get back to what you were doing.

One more anecdote my friends started calling it the nuerolizer like from Men in Black cus you look at the light and then you can't remember anything hehe!

One more thing, I went to Chez Thuy for dinner which is down the street from hopper labs and they were still cranking at 9:30. I know it's easy for me to say but hang in there guys. The Hopper boys really are taking the time to put a product out that will be the industry standard the way the pax was for awhile.

When you finally get yours you'll agree it was worth the wait and I am totally eager to get the Ti now, if I was to only get one, I would get the Ti it's a significant upgrade considering the price differnce.

I'm not sure if when I finally get my Ti if I will use my SS for my mixed herb/tobacco blend and retire my pax 2 or not. The pax2 actually shines in that application and frankly I think that much nicotine you would get from vaping tobacco in a GH might make me go Nick Naylor (hehe some lobbyist humor).

Hope that was useful but like I said I've been doing science so I might have just written an essay about muffins for all I know.


http://imgur.com/ISbxYPa
http://imgur.com/MtI6L4m
http://imgur.com/VKZxK2w
http://imgur.com/IjNxf4I

To stay medicated all day, how many GH bowls do you go through in a day? Also, would you say 1 hit would be enough to feel the effects? Or put another way, given your tolerance (i feel we're similar), how many hits do you need to get where you want to be?
 
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inuhuion,

tr33sPlease

Well-Known Member
Before anyone panics, remember I live literally across the street from Hopper Labs. The only unit that has been delivered to me is the holiday backer SS. I did order a Ti as a regular backer but I have NOT received it.


But I did get to do a taste test comparison between an SS and Blue Ti this afternoon!

First general observations about the two units.

Weight: The weight difference is substantial. I can see some folks preferring the additional heft of the SS but that is subjective.

Dial and Threads: The TI coloring makes the device slightly coarser. As a result the dial and thread pieces are just a little harder to spin. For the dial it also makes it a little more precise to spin but these are differences you would only notice using both types back to back.

Now to my experiment.

I wanted to see if there was a difference in flavor between the two. (Mind you this all happened this afternoon and I've had several GIM's (Grasshopper Inspire Misadventures ;-) so I may forget some details.

I took a pinch of some Dark Blue Dream from Terrapin Care Station in Boulder ( terrapincarestation.com ) and loaded each vape. It is a 19% THC Blue Dream cross for those keeping score.

I set them both to 3 took two hits each then up to 4 two more hits then killed the bowl with a bubble at 5.

My observations were:

Both have excellent flavor however I did taste more terpenes with the Ti and it was noticeable. Again not to denegrate the SS it's excellent, the Ti is just better.

On the other hand, because the Ti is more efficient, the SS actually holds on to flavor longer. Well at least that was my thesis during the experiment and the ABV seemed to support it as the Ti ABV is slightly darker.

The pics below show the amount I used and the the ABV. The combined amount between the two hoppers was about the size of a firefly bowl or almost filled my glass bowl. And yes for the record I smoked that bowl after for you know ... science ;-)

Anyway I want to drive home the point about the efficiency. I was ruhl high from that small session, I have no idea why I smoked that bowl except I was thinking it would be an interesting twist to the bong game zonk, which of course I was thinking that because I was ruhl high.

Anyway, my conclusion is that I'm glad I ordered a Ti because I think a. A grasshopper is better when everyone has their own. A lot of the convenience issues folks are talking about on here assume there will only be on grasshopper in the room. Like an iPhone, it gets more useful when other people have one also so it will be "useful" to have two grasshoppers around so I don't have to share if any of my friends dont get their own (fww, it's been pretty popular and friends have already ordered on after trying it)

b. The Ti is a more connesiuer product. I hope I see Jake Browne at the Cannabist soon, I think the Denver Post will have to buy him one as a reporting tool! You really do get richer more complex flavor out of the Ti and I'm only a rookie snob and I can tell. I think Jake would smash his Neti pot hehe.

c. With the Ti less is definitely more because it's ripping through those terpenes faster. I would definitely use the pinch method with the Ti and if you really want to session, well for one, you must have some crazy tolerance and you may be missing the point of this vape but if you want to do it anyway you may actually prefer the SS because flavor lasts for more hits, it's not better it's just longer ... that's what she said!

Of course the trade off is the SS gets hotter faster but like I said sessioning is missing the point in my opinion much like asking what the apple watch "can do" is missing the point, it's tool to help you recognize what things you can ignore and NOT do.

The grasshopper is for, hey I noticed I'm not high, that's stupid because I've met me before, let me turn on my Tres Seis Dope Machine taking a full delicious flavorful puffs because I'm from Colorado and thereofore a defacto cannabis 1%er and then I will be ruhl high and I'll put it back in my pocket until I want to do that again later. Where do I happen to be? Who cares because it's going to take less than 10 seconds unless I accidentally take too big a first rip so I have to wait a second or two before the next one. When I want to cheif a spliff for 10 minutes I'll roll one ... or use my pax2 if it's lousy outside. That is not what the GH is for. The GH is for when you want to treat yo self and get back to what you were doing.

One more anecdote my friends started calling it the nuerolizer like from Men in Black cus you look at the light and then you can't remember anything hehe!

One more thing, I went to Chez Thuy for dinner which is down the street from hopper labs and they were still cranking at 9:30. I know it's easy for me to say but hang in there guys. The Hopper boys really are taking the time to put a product out that will be the industry standard the way the pax was for awhile.

When you finally get yours you'll agree it was worth the wait and I am totally eager to get the Ti now, if I was to only get one, I would get the Ti it's a significant upgrade considering the price differnce.

I'm not sure if when I finally get my Ti if I will use my SS for my mixed herb/tobacco blend and retire my pax 2 or not. The pax2 actually shines in that application and frankly I think that much nicotine you would get from vaping tobacco in a GH might make me go Nick Naylor (hehe some lobbyist humor).

Hope that was useful but like I said I've been doing science so I might have just written an essay about muffins for all I know.


http://imgur.com/ISbxYPa
http://imgur.com/MtI6L4m
http://imgur.com/VKZxK2w
http://imgur.com/IjNxf4I


Could you get longer sessions if you kept the temp lower like at 2?
 
tr33sPlease,

AkitAkitA7

New Member
I'm just curious for anyone that has it, how does it perform compared to a desktop vape? Also, is there a way or will there be a way to smoke concentrates (wax or liquid for example)? I know on some herbal pens there is a some plate required, but I'm not sure if it will work on the GH, thanks in advance!
 
AkitAkitA7,

Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
Both have excellent flavor however I did taste more terpenes with the Ti and it was noticeable. Again not to denegrate the SS it's excellent, the Ti is just better.

On the other hand, because the Ti is more efficient, the SS actually holds on to flavor longer. Well at least that was my thesis during the experiment and the ABV seemed to support it as the Ti ABV is slightly darker.

I'm not calling BS, but something about this doesn't make complete sense to me.

But regardless, I am super jealous you have a GH and have also tried the colored Ti, you are in elite company there!
 

slcbdco

Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
To stay medicated all day, how many GH bowls do you go through in a day? Also, would you say 1 hit would be enough to feel the effects? Or put another way, given your tolerance (i feel we're similar), how many hits do you need to get where you want to be?

2 usually. I am learning to really just use a tiny pinch, that way I get 4-6 hits from each bowl and then I can just tap it out as that ABV will be "Begone Dull Care" (my snobby way of dumping ABV that maybe could be hit a few more times but why? It's Colorado, no famine here, I'll have fresh flavor, let them eat crawfish I say ..."

Anyway, sorry to digress, I'm a little higher than I thought from a few hits of a CBD dominant strain, which means yeah, this thing is EFFICIENT! (The ratio is 9% THC to 11% CBD so in theory you should barely feel this strain and I definitely do and more so than when I use it in my pax2.

This is a great device if you want a pleasant and non-intrusive way to maintain all day.


I've posted your pics for you. Are you not allowed to say how you happened to come by a Blue Ti unit other than you live down the street from GH?

I thought I said that is precisely why I was allowed. I wanted to be clear that I did NOT get a Ti shipped, I did NOT cut anyone's spot on line, the only hopper I have is the holiday backer and I only have a charger because I went in to pick mine up and the shipment of Chargers had just come in.

I was actually hesitant to even add this post and why I stated DONT PANIC. These threads dive into speculation awful fast. It just so happens I'm this start up companies neighbor. I asked if I could do this taste test and got to do so ONLY out if neighborly kindness cus along with Working crazy hard and being extremely dedicated to bringing a quality product (which it is) at the proper time (which is soon and I get the impatience, I've only had mine a week so two weeks ago I was right there with you waiting so I get it!).

I decided to take the risks because I know folks are deciding if they should pre-order and if they should go Ti or SS. Since I don't know when pre-order pricing ends and for some folks they may want to take the savings now I decided on balance to get this information out there as it helps Hopper labs who we should all want to succeed and helps those in this community who are coming to the forum for information on th device. I would almost recommend a separate forum for speculation on the company but it would be awful boring, turns out it's just nerds tinkering in a nerderry inventing amazing products as you would expect, sorry for the spoiler for those enjoying that aspect of the thread but sorry to tell ya, there's just good hard working honest guys, not backed by a huge Japanese tobacco conglomerate like pax was when it launched (with fair share or troubles and sure it was the industry standard and they spun off to their own company). Not to mention that the GH is a different product than the pax2 I wouldn't say better or worse because both have their virtues, however if I didn't also like Vaping other things and/or I were to have only one cannabis flower vape, or I guess even if all things being eqaul (though like I said I think tobacco might be too strong in the GH maybe I'll stone up to try someday but for now I have the pax) if had to chose one vape it would be the GH hands down. I haven't even touched my firefly since I got the GH. Convection is the new hotness ya'll reckanize!



Also I forgot about the sessioning question, I tried to address it in the earlier post but yes you could session at lower temp. In fact you could pack it tight and session with light and little visible vapor and get probably 20 or more hits if you wanted to. And understanding everyone has different ways they like to consume, what I experienced is I changed my style to suit the device and I'm glad I did. As I noticed from this experiment, the more efficient, the faster the terpenes and thus flavor is extracted and since it vapes so evenly, a fully packed bowl is wasteful unless you like those "begone dull care" flavors, I know some people do and for them I'd recommend the SS over the Ti although it gets hotter so there's that trade off. With the mouthpiece both are fine temp wise.

That said, a "session" is missing the point of this vape. Why have 10 hit deep "begone dull care" hits when everyone can take 5-6 rips off a tiny pinch tap it out and pass it to the next person so they can have 5-6 fresh tasty rips of a pinch?

I can't imagine a situation where I'll use my pax for cannabis now. By the time the pax warms up I could pack the GH take finish a bowl and put it away. The GH may not be for everyone. If for example you are MORE interested in the process taking awhile, like in some ways smoking cigarettes is as much about the "time off" as the nicotine then the pax may be better for you, the sacrifice is flavor and efficiency but both a GH bowl and pax2 will get me high if I vape the whole thing, it's just the whole thing in a pax is the whole bowl and with a GH it's just a pinch.

The GH is difficult to describe in the context of the existing vape market it's like the flavor of the firefly meets the power of crafty meets the ease of pax (though it's easier to use than pax and as good if not sometimes better flavor than FF,never tried the Crafty so I'm speculating there).

So I'm just saying go into the GH with an open mind, don't assume you were sessioning for any reason other than that was the state of technology. I've changed my habits and I ain't upset about it ;-).


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vapebuddy13

Your resident Super Hero
2 usually. I am learning to really just use a tiny pinch, that way I get 4-6 hits from each bowl and then I can just tap it out as that ABV will be "Begone Dull Care" (my snobby way of dumping ABV that maybe could be hit a few more times but why? It's Colorado, no famine here, I'll have fresh flavor, let them eat crawfish I say ..."

Anyway, sorry to digress, I'm a little higher than I thought from a few hits of a CBD dominant strain, which means yeah, this thing is EFFICIENT! (The ratio is 9% THC to 11% CBD so in theory you should barely feel this strain and I definitely do and more so than when I use it in my pax2.

This is a great device if you want a pleasant and non-intrusive way to maintain all day.
might wanna fix your quote/post... but I dont think your previous post was very clear as I was curious how you had a blue Ti... kinda more so now. so you were given one to just test? you say you're not pushing people back but if thats a production Ti arent you doing that? as a unit that could be shipped is now a used unit that cant really be delivered as new to a paying customer. Or is it not a final production blue Ti?
 
vapebuddy13,

slcbdco

Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
might wanna fix your quote/post... but I dont think your previous post was very clear as I was curious how you had a blue Ti... kinda more so now. so you were given one to just test? you say you're not pushing people back but if thats a production Ti arent you doing that? as a unit that could be shipped is now a used unit that cant really be delivered as new to a paying customer. Or is it not a final production blue Ti?


I'm not going to fix my quote, the first thing I say is th ONLY UNIT THATS HAS BEEN DELIVERED TO ME IS THE HOLIDAY BACKER SS before I even mention about the TEST Ti. This is the last time I'm going to talk about anything other than the results of my experiment. I posted it for information ON THE UNIT. I am not going to entertain ANY speculation on the company. I posted that experiment for Vaporist like myself who value flavor and want to make an educated choice about the Ti vs. the SS in time for a pre-order. I do not know, nor did I ask, nor will I ask when pre-order ends. The post was solely for those interested about the differences between the two units and I will only respond in the future to questions specific to the UNIT which to be clear for the last time did not bump anyone's spot in line, is not "delivered" and I got to test it because in addition to be hard working and proud of their product the guys are good guys and my neighbor and yes I brought them beer, not beer bought from a store, fresh beer that I brewed so if there is any conspiracy theory at all, it's that 8 weeks ago I concocted a scheme to brew a beer for the sole purposes of delaying the delivery of your hopper by 6-8 minutes by asking if I could do a little experiment and perhaps provide some actual product information for folks who come to this thread for product information.


That said any questions about the actual experiment? No on is interested in why the Ti strips terpenes faster? I mean I don't know why, I'm no scientist, just a simple country lobbyist but if someone is a scientist, curious to your thoughts!
 
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