Discontinued The Grasshopper

Gregori

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I had to pay 135€ to belgian customs on a 404$ order.
That's about what I expected. But after two years of wait, I was ready to pay whatever they asked.
 
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delloy

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any UK buyers able to advise on customs VAT for the unit?

@420engineer Customs Duty & VAT may be payable it depends on the value and what category the item falls in as certain items are charged at different rates, some even exempt.
If face value (excluding any shipping/handling or insurance) is at £135 or below no customs duty is paid. If the duty payable comes out at £9 or under once calculated it is waived.

VAT will be payable usually at 20% but certain items, again are less. Unsure if vapes fall into this category, but a lot of electronics like game consoles etc are exempt.
VAT is not charged if the item has a face value (excluding shipping/handling or insurance) of £15 or under.

I use this site for any pricing calculations. Just type "electronic vaporiser" in the "product description" field and select it from the dropdown options ;)

http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/

just ask HopperLabs to specify that it is a gift/pen worth $ 30 in that invoice.

@Vaperist This is an illegal practice and not a good route to take for a legitimate business. Fines are rather large if you get caught. HL might do this for you but If I was them I certainly wouldn't, it could get nasty!

Also just to point out marking something as a "Gift" does not as many people seem to believe make it exempt. Only gifts of (I think, not 100% sure) £40 or less are not charged. Although I have had many items slip through without charge.....lets hope this is the case. ;)
 
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biohacker

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in eBay many sellers have done this for me. why can't HopperLabs send out their product as a gift?

Maybe because it's NOT a gift? It's an actual retail purchase? What eBay "sellers" do is irrelevant.

:shrug:

@Vaperist This is an illegal practice and not a good route to take for a legitimate business. Fines are rather large if you get caught. HL might do this for you but If I was them I certainly wouldn't, it could get nasty!
 

Vaperist

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Maybe because it's NOT a gift? It's an actual retail purchase? What eBay "sellers" do is irrelevant.

:shrug:
so what if my Hopper brakes? i spend money to send it back trans Atlantic, and then also pay VAT one more time when receiving a replacement? of course they can specify price as $ 30. than is not illegal. that is commonsense.
 
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biohacker

HREAM
Negative, when you send it in and fill out the customs declaration you simple check off the box that says "Warranty". When HL sends it back you should not have to pay anything due to it being a warranty repair. If you DO get charged, you can appeal the charge and get a refund for it.

That's the way it works here in Canada anyway. Good luck.
 

vapen00b

Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
Negative, when you send it in and fill out the customs declaration you simple check off the box that says "Warranty". When HL sends it back you should not have to pay anything due to it being a warranty repair. If you DO get charged, you can appeal the charge and get a refund for it.

That's the way it works here in Canada anyway. Good luck.
100% correct - same here, that's the way things go, legally!
 

Vaperist

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Negative, when you send it in and fill out the customs declaration you simple check off the box that says "Warranty". When HL sends it back you should not have to pay anything due to it being a warranty repair. If you DO get charged, you can appeal the charge and get a refund for it.

That's the way it works here in Canada anyway. Good luck.
that is it! HopperLabs can specify "warranty" for all international shipping. why not?
 
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vapen00b

Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
that is it! HopperLabs can specify "warranty" for all international shipping. why not?
Cause they try to do serious business? (Do I hear someone laughing around the corner? ;))
This is a LEGAL plattform... I respect your opinion (and borderline creativity) but I think it's not appropriate to discuss that here.
BTT: Anyone new in the Hopper game having received a new unit recently? It's too calm! :D
Peace.
 

Vaperist

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Cause they try to do serious business? (Do I hear someone laughing around the corner? ;))
This is a LEGAL plattform... I respect your opinion (and borderline creativity) but I think it's not appropriate to discuss that here.
i see nothing that latvian authorities can do to them. even if they prove that this "pen" doesn't cost $30
 
Vaperist,

Copacetic

Somewhere North of The Wall
Any countries authorities could cause GHL headaches, and their own authorities too.
Chinese vendors are the only ones that I've heard of who follow this practice regularly.
GHL aren't Chinese, you will be disappointed if you expect them to break the law for you.
 

delloy

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Negative, when you send it in and fill out the customs declaration you simple check off the box that says "Warranty". When HL sends it back you should not have to pay anything due to it being a warranty repair. If you DO get charged, you can appeal the charge and get a refund for it.

That's the way it works here in Canada anyway. Good luck.

Same in the UK


No duty and VAT will be payable if the goods have been repaired free of charge and you can provide a copy of the guarantee/warranty agreement to your shipping provider for presentation to customs.

If you have to pay for the repair, duty and VAT will be charged on the repair costs only.

If the goods have been replaced free of charge under guarantee or warranty, no duty is payable. However, VAT is payable on the full value of the goods because all replacement items are treated as new goods for VAT purposes. (Don't necessarily agree with the last part though! If you haven't paid for the replacement item it has a zero value....surely....regardless of it being a new item)

@420engineer A bit more info. Just looked it up Electronic Vaporisers. Charged at the Duty rate of 1.7% and VAT @20%


No duty will be charged as the calculation will probably come out at less than the £7 threshold I mentioned a few posts back. Unless you spent a HUGE amount of money on Hoppers! So it will just be VAT @20%

Awhile back I seem to recall that some people in the EU were panicking it might be seized by Customs. They cannot!

"Importation of these articles is not subject to prohibitions or restrictions controlled by EU regulations. [No Probability]. If the product contains fluorinated greenhouse gases (hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), perfluorocarbons (PFCs) or sulphur hexafluoride (SF6)), import of this product is prohibited as per the Kyoto Protocol [Some probability].Restrictions may apply for shipping this product with courier or postal companies [Some probability].Packaging and labelling requirements apply to Lithium batteries whether they are contained in the equipment or sent separately from the device. Please, contact your courier for more information."

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biohacker

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Just did 2 bowls, one dry and one through water..... 3.5 and 5 respectively.... wife tried .75 ramped up to 2ish...........

GAME. CHANGER. Without question!

I'll sure to be back with impressions, but i'm off to enjoy the GH in the sunny weather!

You know what the impressions are anyway!

THANK YOU GHL!!!!!! :rockon::tup::clap::nod:
 

Vaperist

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Just did 2 bowls, one dry and one through water..... 3.5 and 5 respectively.... wife tried .75 ramped up to 2ish...........

GAME. CHANGER. Without question!

I'll sure to be back with impressions, but i'm off to enjoy the GH in the sunny weather!

You know what the impressions are anyway!

THANK YOU GHL!!!!!! :rockon::tup::clap::nod:

long live a king!

i'm very curious to compare Hopper cloud intensity versus Sublimator. if Hopper can be even close to that insanely dangerous thing, then HopperLabs should be rewarded with something.

Nobel peace prize maybe? weed is bringing nothing but a peace in this world. :peace: and GrassHopper is bringing it in style.
 

biohacker

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i'm very curious to compare Hopper cloud intensity versus Sublimator. if Hopper can be even close to that insanely dangerous thing, then HopperLabs should be rewarded with something.

Nobel peace prize maybe? weed is bringing nothing but a peace in this world. :peace: and GrassHopper is bringing it in style.

I think the Sub is one of the only major vapes I haven't had the pleasure of experiencing, however the GH makes most vapes redundant for me.

Nobel Peace Prize is right! The Crafty? The only thing I can say is, horse & buggy.

What battery charger should I get for my 4 batteries? Nitecore i2 or d2 I think is best? It's better to use two i2/d2's than one i4/d4?
 
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Gandalf

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What battery charger should I get for my 4 batteries? Nitecore i2 or d2 I think is best? It's better to use two i2/d2's than one i4/d4?

I'm getting the i2 for my 3 batteries. I like the option of being able to charge one battery at a time, which you can't do in the i4 without potentially damaging the battery.

From the i4 manual:

"When charging a single battery in the I4, the charging current can reach as high as 750mA, which exceeds the current many Ni-MH/Ni-Cd AAA and 10440 Li-ion batteries can withstand. For this reason, under no circumstances should a single AAA or 10440 battery be charged on its own, as potential overheating, damage or even explosion may occur."

Explosion is not something I want to risk when stoned haha - especially when it comes to these rare Hopper batteries!
 

Vaperist

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I think the Sub is one of the only major vapes I haven't had the pleasure of experiencing, however the GH makes most vapes redundant for me.

Nobel Peace Prize is right! The Crafty? The only thing I can say is, horse & buggy.

What battery charger should I get for my 4 batteries? Nitecore i2 or d2 I think is best? It's better to use two i2/d2's than one i4/d4?

take X-tar VC4! it got nice features and LCD display. showing voltage (V) and capacity (mAh) for each battery. to know when they are close to dying so you can order new one in time before they completely gone. and it got very nice and smooth spring that holds batteries. also it have a carrying case. well, not case exactly but a sack. X-tar is more expensive than Nitecore, but it is well worth it, IMO.
 
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tubasco

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I'm getting the i2 for my 3 batteries. I like the option of being able to charge one battery at a time, which you can't do in the i4 without potentially damaging the battery.

From the i4 manual:

"When charging a single battery in the I4, the charging current can reach as high as 750mA, which exceeds the current many Ni-MH/Ni-Cd AAA and 10440 Li-ion batteries can withstand. For this reason, under no circumstances should a single AAA or 10440 battery be charged on its own, as potential overheating, damage or even explosion may occur."

Explosion is not something I want to risk when stoned haha - especially when it comes to these rare Hopper batteries!
Just to point out: the hopper batteries have 750ma printed on them. Ive used the d4 to charge one battery many times so far without incident. The d4 charges up to two batteries at 750ma each, and 3-4 at 375ma each. When charging at 750ma the batteries don't warm up at all. YMMV
 
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