@thedeserttortoise thanks very much for sharing those very useful thoughts and tips.
Im very surprised what you say about the double brulee not producing vapor without such a long heat up.
Im not finding that at all. I get what you are saying about the glowing glass, I do observe that and it lets me know it is pretty warm.
But I am getting a better feel for how hot it is, after heating, by holding it towards my face/chin.
If it is noticebly very hot from several inches, I know I should wait a moment. I have to try and avoid too high temps.
But with this (admittedly crappy) torch, even from cold, 30 seconds is practically overkill for my needs/tolerance.
And I am blowing really huge clouds, fully milked at fast draw speed. Lung busters!
In the great
@WakeAndVape 's video he advises very short heatings, like 15 seconds (?), with 7-10 second re-heats until you reach your desired level.
So Im a bit perplexed by your reports of going over 45 seconds, both for vapor and orange glow.
My first use I heated for 60 seconds and I got one of the hugest, densest and most potent hits I have ever had. No need to ever go there again. And I am still going over my threshold and over darkening loads with too large a hit, still nowhere near 30 seconds heating.
I am gonna check out your vid shortly. Will try and rig something up myself soon.
So maybe these torches just turn the flame down the whole time. I really dont like using it anyway, the worst part of the rutual for me. I do want to get one like you are using, just easier to operate. I have held off so far because because of the amazingly fast heat up of this brulee!
Thanks so much bro for your warm advice from the desert.
Someone commented that this vape made his bubbler smell unpleasant
Hi, that would have been me and sorry I have caused some confusion and misunderstanding over this. I have just been making observations of specific differences between numerous different vapes recently.
I noticed that the Flowerpot Showerhead made my bubblers smell very strongly of cannabis vapor and had a real "pong" to them after use, which increased with use.
"Pong" doesn't equate to bad, it just means to smell strong. Usually associated with unpleasant smells so can me misconstrued.
I use the word "pong" simply for emphasis, good or bad. I don't know why the FP vapor leaves such a strong odor behind. It is as clean, pure, healthy and potent as any vapor going.
So I just assumed it was the potency or something to do with the Showerhead's excellent extraction. However...then I tested the Glass Symphony, which is almost identical to the SH in the vapor it produces, taste, size, potency, extraction etc.
And the GS vapor DIDN'T cause my bubblers to smell strongly of cannabis vapor. Not noticeble at all.
Im not drawing anything from this, or thinking it is a good thing or a bad thing either way-just another mysterious aspect we are far from understanding when it comes to what makes vapes so different.
Then I gof the Elev8r
, and I noticed the same kind of weed/vapor "pong" to the bubblers as the Flowerpot, very similar and in my experience so far, unique to those 2 vaporizers (and absent with the Symphony.)
So I think you misinterpreted what I was getting at. Not in any way a negative aspect of the Elev8r, no way! Just want to make that clear. Just a side effect of the clean and potent vapor the FP and Elev8r provide.
It smells like a natural chemistry lab I guess, which it effectively is. The odor is surely the harmless byproduct of the exact type of chemical reactions occuring as the heat does the magic.
Actually it's yet another testamemt to the Elev8r to be so comparable to the Flowerpot in this usually little perceived way.
Just so nobody gets the wrong idea.
Right, need me some Elv8r! Hope you all is good tonight have a good one.
First bowl has me nearly drooling. 
tonight but my first impression is this is FUN AF to use and tastes pretty good too. I can tell already a slight cool down might be beneficial. I'm going to start with 5sec intervals and see what's what.
