The Arizer Air

[akwardsauce]

alright guys, so wed night was my first chance to use the air & i used it differently than my typical sessions. i took it out to a bar and was mingling & playing pool. this is discrete enough for people to not pay attention to what you're doing, but just as i predicted before, the girl i was playing pool against definitely asked me what it was (and actually wanted to give it a quick try!). in comparison, i could use my mflb without setting off anyone's radar...but i was consciously trying to keep the air discrete, so this outcome is about as good as i anticipated...

one thing i realized about this vs the mflb is that once you turn the air on, you need to be prepared to finish the stem unless you want to hassle with turning it off and back on a lot. its not good for taking a hit, waiting a few minutes, and taking another hit. so, hope that the person playing pool against can get a few balls in one "possession" so that you can have a chance to use the vape a little (remember it can take about 30 sec to take a proper hit)...

i used it with the condom & once its on for a while, it stays pretty warm - but not hot. i also got to run a few sessions with this vape and realized that the warm up time is so much faster than the solo that i would waste a lot of the 10min auto-shutoff time just preparing the stem & waiting for preheating when i didn't really need to. so i would turn it on, preheat it, and slowly start getting stuff ready. by the time i was ready, i had probably milked like 3 minutes off the auto shutoff (its not that I'm slow, i was caught up in conversation, making drinks, etc...so i noticed that it was a more "rushed" experience compared to the SOLO). i think i got about 4 sessions before the air was blinking red (there were about 2 sessions worth of wasted time where it was heating up & i forgot it was preheating, or just got distracted/caught up, etc).

i think if you were willing to turn it on/off & wait for a short preheating each hit, you could have this replace your MFLB (unless you needed a SUPER stealth session). i would say don't turn this on & get your stuff ready since its pretty fast. i think you should get everything ready and then turn it on so that you don't forget and waste precious battery life. i think on a normal night out for me, 1 battery is more than enough vaping time (especially if you drink also), but you are really pushing if more than 3 people are depending on this vape.

I've used it as a "log" style vape at home plugged into the wall & its sufficient...also its nice to heat it up, take a hit or 2, turn it off & do that again every 10 minutes or so to "titrate" your dosage.

so far, the solo hasn't been turned on since I've used this vape...which scares me a bit, but i like having the piece of mind that there is a VERY TRUSTWORTHY backup vape available if i ever need it (too bad it will be stuck at home).

i also have thought about including a "table of contents" type post at the beginning of every long thread for people who need to quickly educate themselves about a potential vape purchase. if we could direct them to posts that follow the natural chronology of the posts along with links to especially useful posts would be awesome. like, this one would go, 1. first look & sale price, 2. first delivered unit, 3. new stems, 4. comparison to solo, 5. battery specs (<--just recently). i was also thinking if we could make a huge master excel spreadsheet on every, or at least the most popular, vapes with an organizable columns to sort the list into relevant categories depending on what you were looking for. fields would include: price, size, load capacity, vaporization method used, resale value, ease of use, accessories available, "stealthiness", cloud factor, average rating (out of 5 stars, like amazon), degree of even browning, darkness of ABV, degree of vaporizer control, ease of cleaning, and whatever other subjective variables that people are concerned with.

an alternative to this is an option for the writer to add "tags" specific to their post. like i would tag this one with "night out", "taking to bars", auto shutoff, etc...so that a person who was trying to get a feel for those aspects of this vape could save time just reading posts about that...

we could have everyone with a username complete a review on whatever vape they want to include their opinion on (with specific choices for each field) and have that data somehow go to a master list that can be sorted by field to compare every vape that has a thread. this could be a huge helpful tool to kind of consolidate much of the information already on this website...id be willing to review the vapes i had experience with to contribute to this database if anyone knew how to set something like this up...

 

[mitchgo61]

There are proper ways to speak to a customer and protect your companies interests at the same time. The customer's best interests and the company's best interests are usually one in the same.

Great to hear you had such a positive customer-service experience with them Steama. Ironically I had a very similar interaction with Arizer several years ago, regarding a glass piece for the V Tower Extreme (one of those little elbow thingies). Same deal...I was basically told I didn't know how to be careful with glass. (I was thinking "I could tell you stories, son...") I let the matter drop after one round as it didn't seem worth the hassle, and never really had any future dealings with them (which is good, because it meant I never had a moment's trouble with either my VTE or my Solo). It's really good to read your story...makes me much more apt to buy from them in the future (not that I was hesitant) because for me, the customer service experience is vital when living with the exigencies of vaporizer technology.

Thanks for sharing bro!

 

[TDB]

Anyone else notice several micro scratches on the panel that contains the led lights and the buttons on your AA?

It almost appears as though there is a plastic cover on this panel, whic is often typical on similar items; however, if there is I cant seem to peel it off. Any thoughts?

 

[Pipes]

Anyone else notice several micro scratches on the panel that contains the led lights and the buttons on your AA?

It almost appears as though there is a plastic cover on this panel, whic is often typical on similar items; however, if there is I cant seem to peel it off. Any thoughts?

Previous post on this.

 

[OF]

Anyone else notice several micro scratches on the panel that contains the led lights and the buttons on your AA?

It almost appears as though there is a plastic cover on this panel, whic is often typical on similar items; however, if there is I cant seem to peel it off. Any thoughts?

Yes, I have, it is a film, I reported it in this thread earlier on, and have removed the film. You'll also find similar film on the bottom.......

I got it (carefully) with an Exacto knife blade in the upper right corner. The film goes around the switch all the way to the bottom of that small panel.

OF

 

[TDB]

Yes, I have, it is a film, I reported it in this thread earlier on, and have removed the film. You'll also find similar film on the bottom.......

I got it (carefully) with an Exacto knife blade in the upper right corner. The film goes around the switch all the way to the bottom of that small panel.

OF

Thanks for the prompt reply. I can honestly say that I have read every post in this thread BUT I think you can all forgive me for not remembering such a small detail. I now have more confidence to continue trying to remove the film. Thanks Again!



Woot!

 

[Sinclue]

Thanks for the prompt reply. I can honestly say that I have read every post in this thread BUT I think you can all forgive me for not remembering such a small detail. I now have more confidence to continue trying to remove the film. Thanks Again!

For the life of me I couldn't get mine to peal off so I just gave up. After a couple days use one corner started to lift up . I could grab it with a pair of tweezers (just what the heak is a single tweezer) and peal it off.

~

 

[g1zm0]

hey guys i just lost the little rubber filter inside the black plastic part of the mouthpiece. I still have one in the shorter stem. would it still be ok to use the bigger stem without the rubber filter or any screen? and whats the purpose of this rubber filter?lol it seems to smell a lot.

P.S. if anyone knows whats this little rubber piece called and where to get it please tell me!
thanks

 

[Nytron]

hey guys i just lost the little rubber filter inside the black plastic part of the mouthpiece. I still have one in the shorter stem. would it still be ok to use the bigger stem without the rubber filter or any screen? and whats the purpose of this rubber filter?lol it seems to smell a lot.

P.S. if anyone knows whats this little rubber piece called and where to get it please tell me!
thanks

The silicone ring inside the mouthpiece catches a large percentage of the loose herb. The herb builds up in a ring shape on the silicone ring.

 

[g1zm0]

The silicone ring inside the mouthpiece catches a large percentage of the loose herb. The herb builds up in a ring shape on the silicone ring.

thanks! any ideas where i can get a new one or do something about it?

 

[OF]

hey guys i just lost the little rubber filter inside the black plastic part of the mouthpiece.

and whats the purpose of this rubber filter?lol it seems to smell a lot.

P.S. if anyone knows whats this little rubber piece called and where to get it please tell me!
thanks

It's not really a filter, unless you've got small rocks or something in your vapor, it's a seal or gasket depending on what you want to call it I guess? I found that without it (I lost one washing it, in less than an hour) the MP leaked air through the threads. So I made a replacement from tubing, it's working fine, the offer of free materials for US residents (simple mailing) is still open:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-arizer-air.16415/page-40#post-702134

The silicone ring inside the mouthpiece catches a large percentage of the loose herb. The herb builds up in a ring shape on the silicone ring.

Interesting, you sure couldn't prove it by me. Basically zero herb above the plate in either of mine????

OF

 

[g1zm0]

It's not really a filter, unless you've got small rocks or something in your vapor, it's a seal or gasket depending on what you want to call it I guess? I found that without it (I lost one washing it, in less than an hour) the MP leaked air through the threads. So I made a replacement from tubing, it's working fine, the offer of free materials for US residents (simple mailing) is still open:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-arizer-air.16415/page-40#post-702134



Interesting, you sure couldn't prove it by me. Basically zero herb above the plate in either of mine????

OF

Thx man thst helped a lot! So where can I get a replacement gasket again?
I actually found a really good replacement seal that is VERY similar to the original one! I took it out of a disposable hookah pen. Its also clear silicone with a cirlce cut out in the middle. Its just a tine bit thicker and smaller in diameter but fits in the stem perfectly!

 

[Nytron]

It's not really a filter, unless you've got small rocks or something in your vapor, it's a seal or gasket depending on what you want to call it I guess? I found that without it (I lost one washing it, in less than an hour) the MP leaked air through the threads. So I made a replacement from tubing, it's working fine, the offer of free materials for US residents (simple mailing) is still open:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-arizer-air.16415/page-40#post-702134



Interesting, you sure couldn't prove it by me. Basically zero herb above the plate in either of mine????

OF

Keep ripping her. I use it as a pass around piece with a few friends and they probably drag it hard like an e-cig. I grind pretty fine and use a screen. I crush/stir the herb mid-way through the bowl and usually do more than 10mins on a bowl to get the herb in a fine pulverized state. After more than normal amount of usage, a neat herb wreath will build up on the silicone ring. Without this, you'd get loose herb all over the mouthpiece and in your mouth.

The airflow is great in this state, it looks worse than it is. The mouthpiece is super easy to reclaim or clean. The stir tool fits perfectly in the hole.

A screen instead of this silicone ring would work too.

 

[g1zm0]

Keep ripping her. I use it as a pass around piece with a few friends and they probably drag it hard like an e-cig. I grind pretty fine and use a screen. I crush/stir the herb mid-way through the bowl and usually do more than 10mins on a bowl. When you get your herb to a fine pulverized state, a neat herb wreath will build up on the silicone ring. Without this, you'd get loose herb all over the mouthpiece and in your mouth.

The airflow is great in this state, it looks worse than it is. The mouthpiece is super easy to reclaim or clean. The stir tool fits perfectly in the hole.

A screen instead of this silicone ring would work too.

Damnnn how do u grind soo fine? Thats finer than salt!

 

[Nytron]

Mendo vape grinder, which has smaller holes. Also, I have been supplementing bowls with kief.

I stir by unloading the bowl while its hot into my palm, crushing and stirring the herb with thumb+index finger. This turns the herb nearly to dust if you vape on high temperatures. To re-load, I breathe super fast through the mouthpiece to vacuum up the stirred herb, which adds to the build up i'm sure.

I cleaned that bowl over a little over week ago. The silicone ring was sticky, so I left it that way, not fully iso washing it. A screened mouthpiece AND bowl would be the solution. Water filtration or even a cotton filter would work too.

 

[OF]

Thx man thst helped a lot! So where can I get a replacement gasket again?

Sorry, right photo, wrong message:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-arizer-air.16415/page-38#post-701763

PM me and I'll mail you the tubing (if you're in the US). No luck with a replacement without buying a new stem, at least yet. Elsewhere I posted about an aborted plan to slit a short piece of large diameter tube (to get a flatish sheet) and then use a .40 caliber cartridge case as a punch to cut a round disk out (then use a small brass tube to punch the center hole).

But the idea of nesting tubes came up, and it worked so well I abandoned the punching project.

Sorry for the confusion. PM if you want on the list. The offer's open to all, of course.

OF

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I vape material at that grain size sometimes, using a very fine screen (I don't know what micron but probably like a 25), and while it doesn't let material through it clogs pretty quickly. I wonder what your screen mesh looks like, some of the "fine" ones I've seen will let really small bits through. Usually they get caught on the resin inside the stems (the Solo stems anyways). Ring is sticky because the parts exposed to the vapor path are getting coated with resin. Maybe a screen will work, maybe a bit of cotton. There's a point where I don't really care to make it any finer, there's a coarseness above this that I like more (even when I dump and break up stem loads). I wonder if the screen is even and not bent at a point that would allow material through.

 

[OF]

That truly looks awful. I can imagine the amount of toasted herb going straight into your lungs.

With ya there, coach! Due to the way airflow works a whole lot more than 'what's missing in the hole' went through it. Our bodies are set up to deal with a little bit of debris, but that's spooky to me.

At the very least I'd be trying something like a tuft of cotton to try to trap more and work on technique to generate less.

Still, I asked how it could be......now I know. Thanks for the photo Nytron.....I think.....

OF

 

[Nytron]

I just did a bowl using a filter between my mouth and end of mouthpiece, not much is coming through except slight stickyness. All the loose herb particles that might fall through are getting caught in that herb wreath. A broken-in piece that is sticky will catch a lot of the loose particles. Compared to smoking, the toll on the lungs is a drop in the bucket.

My bowl is screened with the last Solo screen I have from my PV variety pack, a coarse screen which is the worst one for direct draw, but the best for water filtration. I'm stirring and crushing herb into dust halfway through session.

It is user preference as to whether or not you want to pursue full extraction. I could choose not to stir or even grind my weed, which would slow the build up of herb in the mouthpiece. Also, I am using this as a pass around piece to non-vaporist friends and doing kief bowls. So yeah, this thing is getting way more use than normal.

My technique is to blacken my herbs and turn them to almost a coarse dust texture. Not many vapes nor individuals can/will choose to achieve this. I filter my vapor over half the time, so there's no reason not to. The mouthpiece is super easy to clean.

Looking forward to aftermarket stems and mouthpieces. And more portable water tools!

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I just did a bowl using a filter between my mouth and end of mouthpiece, not much is coming through except slight stickyness. All the loose herb particles that might fall through are getting caught in that herb wreath. A broken-in piece that is sticky will catch a lot of the loose particles. Then it has to make it through the small sticky tunnel in the mouthpiece. Compared to smoking, the toll on the lungs is a drop in the bucket.

My bowl is screened with the last Solo screen I have from my PV variety pack, a coarse screen which is the worst one for direct draw, but the best for water filtration. I'm stirring and crushing herb into dust halfway through session.

It is user preference as to whether or not you want to pursue full extraction. I could choose not to stir or even grind my weed and then that build up would not occur. My technique is to blacken my herbs and turn them to a coarse dust. Not many vapes nor individuals can/will choose to achieve this.

Looking forward to aftermarket stems and mouthpieces. And more portable water tools!

Aftermarket stems won't fix it, getting a finer screen will. I have a "turbo" stem which has a ledge where the glass screen would sit in the stem, that holds a screen in place. Open bore otherwise, and as long as it's set properly and the screen is the appropriate mesh/micron size nothing gets through. Agreed, I find that I like the turbo stem with my water pipe and a standard stem when using it dry.

 

[fernand]

Just got back from loitering on Union Square. I like how in San Francisco you can vape and either people don't look or care, or else they give you a little smile and a knowing look. I always give a knowing look back, whether they think it's nicotine and beats "analogs", or they know it's cann or ope or whatever substance THEY're into. I'm cool with all that. If they ask me, I try to remember to say "It's Burmese Vanilla in Glycerin - my Malay fixer mixes it the night before, my driver brings it in the morning".

 

[Nytron]

Aftermarket stems won't fix it, getting a finer screen will. I have a "turbo" stem which has a ledge where the glass screen would sit in the stem, that holds a screen in place. Open bore otherwise, and as long as it's set properly and the screen is the appropriate mesh/micron size nothing gets through. Agreed, I find that I like the turbo stem with my water pipe and a standard stem when using it dry.

Aftermarket stem could fix it too. The stock Air stem is necked down quite a bit at the glass threads. Imagine a stem that is wider in this area and has a ledge for a screen. Or a screen in the mouthpiece itself. I agree though, the easiest fix is to get a finer screen or even double up on screens if needed.

Regarding the turbo bowl, I had the exact same setup. I went through/lost all my fine screens. IMO, there is no better stem on the planet for a Solo than a PVHEGonG Turbo + fine screen. The Air stem is almost changing my mind. I think there may be more convection occurring with the stock Air bowl as opposed to a turbo bowl. The glass under the bowl really helps in the convection department, browning the underside of the bowl more than a turbo style bowl.

The coarse screen I have in my Air stem is trimmed too small and it flipped over after a session, so a lot of that bowl dust got through to the mouthpiece. I just remembered that now, haha. Time to order more screens and travel caps.

Edit: I just impulse bought some "ultra fine" screens, check out the fourth image on this page: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131217793875

 

[OF]

Imagine a stem that is wider in this area and has a ledge for a screen.

You mean like a Solo stem? They work just fine here too.

Planet Vape has the turbo as well. Some Solo guys like the GonG version turbo and hit it dry, too hardcore for me.

OF

 

[Nytron]

You mean like a Solo stem? They work just fine here too.

Planet Vape has the turbo as well. Some Solo guys like the GonG version turbo and hit it dry, too hardcore for me.

OF

I meant a screen between the stem and the mouthpiece. Or even in the mouthpiece itself. Probably not necessary, but it'd be possible.

 

[fernand]

Some Solo guys like the GonG version turbo and hit it dry, too hardcore for me.

OF

That's like barebacking a MFLB. You can always add an adapter as an extender, say an 18 to 14 mm ;-) Ah the utility of a little box full o' glass.