What is the best way to clean the mouthpieces? I ISO washed all the stems yesterday but the screw on tips are getting a little gummy.
The Arizer Air
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alltoreup
Damn you, party liquor
I cleaned my in some 91 ISO along with the stems. Arizer states you can soak the tips up to 30 minutes in ISO. I only left them in like 5 minutes as that's all it took.
rekrab
Well-Known Member
so Im not sure if anyone else has this problem or im just doing something wrong. but i cant seem to get the timing very good for turning the unit on. I hold both up and down for 3 secs at least then a bright blue light flashes without turning on. then i hold again for same 3 secs or so and the unit turns on with the normal blue light. everything works fine with the unit otherwise and im blowing great clouds, except the charging hole cover wont stay in and I cant seem to turn the unit on first try.
OF
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I had the same sort of problem before I changed my technique. Now I just firmly mash the entire button down and wait for an abnormally bright, brief (white?) flash. This happens before the beep (if enabled) which is more quiet than Solo so I can't reliably hear it in all conditions. You can let go on that flash and the blue (idle?) light comes on after.
Making a conscious effort to press 'both buttons' didn't work for me either, but getting 'ham fisted' and pressing it like one big button firmly does. The program is looking for both together for several seconds straight so hitting one slightly before the other is no problem.
OF
Yeah you have to push UP again to get it to start heating. I posted a few pages ago about it. On a few occasions I've been "aired out" wondering why it's taking forever to heat up.
OF
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No doubt just after they get them. Which comes after release to distributors, which happens in January we're told.
Soon on the calendar, but a long time if yer Jonesin' for sure. FWIW I don't expect to see great prices anytime soon as long as the pent up demand is there?
Too bad you missed the Black Friday/introduction sale from Arizer, I'm thinking it'll be a while before those prices come around again........
OF
2clicker
Observer
i am STRUGGLING on whether to wait for any minor updates that may occur over the next six months and any price drops...
not that i expect any of those changes for sure, but they would both be welcomed.
but for real i REALLY REALLY REALLY want one if these and im fighting it hard...
who needs a kidney...? or a date...?
not that i expect any of those changes for sure, but they would both be welcomed.
but for real i REALLY REALLY REALLY want one if these and im fighting it hard...
who needs a kidney...? or a date...?
Standard testing has been a bit of thorn for me with the Air so far. So much of the power draw is dependent on the amount and speed the airflow that I think doing idle tests alone will give deceiving results. But at the same time, it's exceptionally difficult to get a reliable system for testing that.
At the moment, my current test processes are as follows:
Test 1: Idle Use
Cell is charged to 100% via the Air's built in charger. Unit is run on green with an empty stem for 10 minutes. Unit is cooled to room temperature between test cycles, and voltage is measured before and after each cycle. Internal resistance should be measured at the start and end of the test.
Test 2: Low Use
Cell is charged to 100% via the Air's built in charger. Unit is run on red with an empty stem for 10 minutes. Unit is cooled to room temperature between test cycles, and voltage is measured before and after each cycle. Internal resistance should be measured at the start and end of the test.
Test 3: Medium Use
Cell is charged to 100% via the Air's built in charger. Unit is run on red for 10 minutes, with 30 second long draws at 3:00, 5:00, 7:00 and 9:00 respectively. Stem is reloaded after the draw at 5:00. Draws are made as strong as the airflow of the unit will allow. Unit is cooled to room temperature between test cycles, and voltage is measured before and after each cycle. Internal resistance should be measured at the start and end of the test.
Test 4: Heavy Use (Still working on this one, any ideas?)
Cell is charged to 100% via the Air's built in charger. Unit is run on red for 10 minutes. Once the unit reaches full temperature, a 3 bar air pump is turned on which will draw approximately 2 litres of air per minute. This is turned on and off at alternating 1 minute intervals until the unit shuts itself off. Unit is cooled to room temperature between test cycles, and voltage is measured before and after each cycle. Internal resistance should be measured at the start and end of the test.
My current testing lineup is:
2 x NCR18650B
B18650CC (stock)
IMR18650 AW
And I soon hope to soon have the new Efest 3100mAh high drains, as well as getting some B18650CA cells in to test as well. DF has mistakenly listed the B18650CC as being identical to the B18650CA, but according to my source at BAK the B18650CA is a slightly higher capacity version of the B18650CC.
I have never worked with BAK before in the past but I must say I am pleasantly surprised by the professionalism and care put in to their operation. They have the most stringent testing requirements I've ever seen. Each batch of cells goes through the following spot QC tests:
stark1
Lonesome Planet
Dropping another sixty bux may well be worth advoiding all the angst of waiting for Godot. Which ain't going to happen, anyway.
Later, after the Holidays, one can kick one's butt. But you, too, can have the latest new toy. Now.
OF
Well-Known Member
One interesting thing I've found playing with mine: it's built in charger seems to terminate higher than normal. I'd checked a time or two before but realized I don't take the battery out and measure it right away, I did some minor 'starts and stops' first.
So I started watching. It seems to stop between 4.22 and 4.25 Volts. Somewhat outside the recommended range for most (all?) common Li-ion cells. It will, of course, yield more 'heating time per charge' (and earlier death/replacement), but would no doubt be discouraged by battery makers if you asked? Perhaps this is a factor in 'don't use other cells'? Kind of a preemptive against 'I contacted XXX maker and he says you're doing something wrong'.
This is based on a very small sample size (like one......), what do other guys measure?
TIA
OF
So I started watching. It seems to stop between 4.22 and 4.25 Volts. Somewhat outside the recommended range for most (all?) common Li-ion cells. It will, of course, yield more 'heating time per charge' (and earlier death/replacement), but would no doubt be discouraged by battery makers if you asked? Perhaps this is a factor in 'don't use other cells'? Kind of a preemptive against 'I contacted XXX maker and he says you're doing something wrong'.
This is based on a very small sample size (like one......), what do other guys measure?
TIA
OF
Pappy
shmaporist
Some pothead math trying the calculate the "miniaturization premium" of the Air compared to the Solo.
Sessions per Charge: Air 5 vs Solo 8 = 37.5% Session Premium per charge
Session Duration: Air 10 minutes vs Solo 12 minutes = 16.5% Duration Premium
Therefore the Air renders 37.5% less sessions per charge with 16.5% shorter sessions.
2clicker
Observer
The ten minute shutoff is perfect for my sesh. It seems like every single time I pull a late draw on my Air and think, "I think this load is about done." 10 seconds later my Air shuts off. It feels like Arizer designed the auto shut-off timed to my session.
i think this will be the case for me as well. i never need the whole 12 mins unless im just sipping on my solo. 10 mins seems more than enough IMO.
5094201995
Member
I'm loving the 10 minute sesh, I found with the Solo I was turning it off around then anyway. Haven't touched the Solo in 3-4 days now.
dionysos911
Member
How long did it take to receive your tracking number?
I ordered mine saturday morning at it said shipped the next day but I still don't have the tracking number or any idea when it'll be delivered. It's going to Washington State if that matters.
I ordered mine saturday morning at it said shipped the next day but I still don't have the tracking number or any idea when it'll be delivered. It's going to Washington State if that matters.
g1zm0
Member
Hey guys just got my AA and it looks awesome!
Im sorry for the noob question but when u load the glass stem wirh weed, is it supposed to fall down into the metal chamber or stay in the glass stem bowl? It seems like there iw space between the end of the stem and the metal chamber, or am I just not pushing it in hard enough?
Im sorry for the noob question but when u load the glass stem wirh weed, is it supposed to fall down into the metal chamber or stay in the glass stem bowl? It seems like there iw space between the end of the stem and the metal chamber, or am I just not pushing it in hard enough?
5094201995
Member
It is supposed to stay in the glass stem. Heat up your AA, load your stem, give it a small pack with your pinky, and then slowly slide the stem in, straight down. It might take a little twisting but it should go all the way down.