The Arizer Air

[CarolKing]

You can do it all with the Air. You can use the lower temps with the shorter stem which is very stealth like and get amazing flavor.

If you want more medicine at the higher temp for pain you can use the longer stems. I like using my vortex stem that I had originally bought for the Solo but find it works well with the Air too.
Of coarse the longer stem isn't stealth so it does not work for all occasions.

This little portable can be paired easily with a water tool if you want to explore that method.

 

[OF]

Not sure why i have yet to try a lower setting than green before today... Green just seems like the place you are SUPPOSE to start from LOL

I too fell into that trap. After brief testing at other levels I too settled in on the third step (green) thinking I used Solo at 4 (middle step) so Air at the middle step......

I wrote off the hotter vapor in Air to the shorter stem until I tried swapping the stems. Solo stems were just as harsh in Air (center step), but he Air stem was milder in Solo (on step 4). So I read the manuals........

Step 2 on Air is the same as 4 on Solo per Arizer..... Oops. Switching to a default white (step 2) on Air gave a much more familiar match. Live and learn.

OF

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

Yeah guys in my experience starting at blue and going up 1 notch at a time; not only tastes better but is more efficient and less harsh. If you start at blue and end at your usual temp you will still get the same spectrum of cannabinoids but less is wasted

 

[GetLeft]

I find that by using s.s screens along with glass ones 'catches' the larger particles of reclaim and reduces the harshness. It also produces lots of very clear reclaim, I mean lots

Is it a no no to use a screen that's not SS? I've got one that I picked up for my combustion tool way back when. Now that I'm enjoying a medium grind (on green : ) I'm getting more particles up the stem. Here's a photo of my screen:

http://imgur.com/GLkmQXb

 

[OF]

Is it a no no to use a screen that's not SS? I've got one that I picked up for my combustion tool way back when.

Although many will no doubt disagree, I think there's no serious health issues, especially if it's replace by a SS one when you get it. That's brass, some brass has a bit of Lead added to make drawing the wire easier (same as it was added to make 'free machining brass' once so common in plumbing fixtures.

My major objection is the foul faster (since they conduct the heat faster) and you can't 'flame' them clean like SS ones.

In your position I'd try the screen you have, if I liked it, order some SS ones to replace it with? You can get 100 SS screens for a few dollars from Amazon or EBay. Even if you order some and change your mind it's not a big expense.

OF

 

[UnshavenFish]

Is it a no no to use a screen that's not SS? I've got one that I picked up for my combustion tool way back when. Now that I'm enjoying a medium grind (on green : ) I'm getting more particles up the stem. Here's a photo of my screen:

http://imgur.com/GLkmQXb

I would guess its a brass screen? Now i don't want to open a but...

IMO we never reach temps that would cause any issues using this, you should even find it easier to shape.

Having said that i only use stainless steel or titanium screens in my vapes and used glass flowers/jacks in my bong/burning days but the only reason was for longevity.

Edit: yeah ^ what @OF said

 

[jojo0420]

I have to give 2 thumbs up to the Namaste Vapes 14m GonG from @PuffItUp.
I have been using it as my primary at home stem with a small bubbler and a large tube scientific piece, it delivers dense clouds. More so than my PVHE GonGs. There is more restriction, but the net result is denser hits.

 

[Pipes]

Can it be any more stealth....? My real ecig looks more suspicious..lol
A piece of shrink wrap and all evidence is covered.

Also, have just tried the whitish temp, tastes better. I too was just going green and had not tried the white. Thanks for the info there.

 

[OF]

Can it be any more stealth....? My real ecig looks more suspicious..lol
A piece of shrink wrap and all evidence is covered.

Also, have just tried the whitish temp, tastes better. I too was just going green and had not tried the white. Thanks for the info there.

Cool. But I think the Mk II should be a wrap around sticker with a photograph of a half full e-cig tank, maybe a wick or two......

Maybe even one of the 'shrink labels' you see on so many plastic bottles these days?

I'm a white level guy now too. Usually anyway. Much better to me than green......

OF

 

[bluenavey00]

What does it mean when both LED's show aqua blue? Just happened, took the battery out and now its fine.

 

[UnshavenFish]

What does it mean when both LED's show aqua blue? Just happened, took the battery out and now its fine.

I could be wrong but i remember something like this and think it was if you try and select temp too soon,
If it happened around that time it could be this

 

[GetLeft]

I appreciate the feedback!

The screen kept the stem free of particles. But kind of a hassle getting it settled in, and had to fiddle with it again when it was time to unload. Not sure whether or not I'll bother putting it back in. We'll wrestle with that one sometime tomorrow...

 

[OF]

Not sure whether or not I'll bother putting it back in. We'll wrestle with that one sometime tomorrow...

That's one of the rules for successful retirement: "Always leave something to do tomorrow".

The cover it during orientation when you retire, but IMO it's never too early to take advantage of the obvious wisdom of the rule.

You thought you were just experimenting with a screen, but in reality it's a dress rehearsal for retirement you'd otherwise miss..... FWIW, seems to me like you're a natural for retirement.

OF

 

[GetLeft]

Not that I want to, but I'll need to work a little while yet. From what I've learned around here the past couple or weeks, the onset of VAS -- or TMPS ("too much pot shit" : ) is imminent. Lots of wood and glass and electronics out there. Gotta cost a pretty penny.

 

[SquirrelMaster]

So my Air came in on Friday and after charging both batteries I've given it a decent run this weekend. One thing I've learned is that I'm going to be very OCD about keeping it clean. I've cleaned it every two sessions max and I intend to keep it that way so cleaning never gets to be to much of a hassle. ISO, cu-tips and a quick rinse work perfect for me.
I had some VERY old stuff stashed away in a space case and I tried it with and without busting and with and without damp cotton in the stem. All my sessions were started on green, no screens, with the short stem. I prefer the medium grind over a chunk and the damp cotton ball trick is super smooth compared to nothing. I'm glad I had that option as my throat has been sore the past week (fighting a cold while taking a tolerance break). To anyone looking to buy an AA I would highly recommend an extra battery as well. Mine came in handy as I don't plan to ever run batteries low if at all possible.

Thanks to @blunavey00 I picked up a case as well. I was considering the Ego case he had shown here http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-arizer-air.16415/page-167 and he guided me to this post by @Airmaster One near the bottom of the page showing the different case sizes http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-arizer-air.16415/page-110
I grabbed a large black as it will suit my needs well. I kinda want to grab that bubble that @OF keeps showing from DHgate. We'll see. I have more to add but I'm tired from playing with it all day ha ha.

 

[Ashish]

What does it mean when both LED's show aqua blue? Just happened, took the battery out and now its fine.

I could be wrong (it happens often) but I think that's what happens when you've turned the unit on, and the battery's fully charged, but you haven't selected an operating temperature yet. I'd assume that if you've set the unit to resume at the last temperature used, or your battery is no longer fully charged, then you wouldn't see this particular light/colour configuration.

EDIT: Or it could be what @UnshavenFish mentioned above: it happens when you try to select the operating temperature too soon (ie. <5 seconds) after turning it on.

We could both be right, or we could both be wrong, but the important thing is that we've established it's not an error with your unit (unless, of course, all three of us have faulty units, but I highly doubt that).

 

[spiggot]

First time poster on this thread, although long time lurker. Loving my Air since getting it, so much better than the Pinnacle Pro I have (in every way), and much easier for me than messing with my Extreme-Q due to the Air's portable nature.

One of the benefits I didn't think about until becoming an Air owner is the ease of cleaning that SquirrelMaster mentioned above. I too dump stems in an ISO bath for a few hours before rinsing in water and leaving to dry. I do this every 1-2 uses, as it's so easy to do while charging the unit. This works very well despite the heavily reused ISO now being a dark orange brown colour. I don't really feel the need to use Q-tips at all most of the time, and have several stems so constantly having a few soaking isn't a problem. I try to keep the amount of ISO in the bath to a minimum, and only use 99% ISO. Only issue for me is that the ultra fine screens I use sometimes drop out in the bath, which is a small inconvenience to fish them out and put back in.

I'm now wondering if it's worth evaporating the orange ISO bath on a plate in my shed to see if I get some sort of product I can mix with flowers to use in the Air. I don't want to waste the ISO if I won't get at least a usable amount of product, but I suppose it would be nice to start using a clean ISO bath again for my stems.

I've seen threads in the concentrate section regarding QWISO using flowers, but I don't want to "waste" any bud on this at the moment, I'm just trying to reclaim waste from the Air left in the stems, if possible. I may look into using ABV at some point should this be successful.

I've cleaned a couple of gummed up grinders in the ISO bath too, so there are a few small particles in there. Should I filter this first before allowing to evaporate? Has anyone else tried this with success, or am I wasting my time even considering this? Any advice appreciated!

 

[OF]

I'm now wondering if it's worth evaporating the orange ISO bath on a plate in my shed to see if I get some sort of product I can mix with flowers to use in the Air. I don't want to waste the ISO if I won't get at least a usable amount of product, but I suppose it would be nice to start using a clean ISO bath again for my stems.

First off, howdy! Nice to meet another vaper stepping out of the shadows, I hope we'll be hearing more of your adventures in the future.

Only you can decide if producing/testing the reclaim is worth while, and as I see it there's only one way to find that out. Many with poor 'connections' savor it indeed. Those of us blessed with the lovely concentrates in the Dispensary case can be another thing entirely. There's stuff in there that's nearly unbelievable, no way we can do it at home as recovery. Not even close.

If, OTOH, money is dear or fickle laws against you....... Your call, but IMO you should give it a good try before you make up you mind for yourself. Other folks opinions are unlikely to be a good guide.

I can offer you a bit of hopefully useful advice on the 'it'd be nice to have fresh alcohol' front: Set up a 'counterflow' system. Start a second jar of pure ISO. After a good soak in the dirty stuff, move the stem to the clean for a squeaky clean stem and more complete capture. Then, when you do harvest the dirty stuff, the clean jar becomes the new dirty and you replace the clean. That's the sort of thing industry would do.

Regards,

OF

 

[WoodVillain]

Reclaim from the stems and the Arizer Exreme Q bags are always worthwhile to me... money is dear and fickle laws against me.... Even still i think reclaim taste pretty good, especially compared to "reclaimed" resin from pipes used to combust... And hell my nose dont stick up too far for that either when times are tough.

On the other hand i have had no luck with AVB.

 

[Edward Hyde]

I normally just vape on yellow. I will agree with you that drier herb produces better vapor but for some reason if its too most (not cured right) it almost always is harsher on my throat. Maybe my throat is just a bitch lol

the problem with vaping uncured moist bud is that water boiling point is 100 C and your vaporizer gets to 220C so you can see why it is harsh on your throat.

One of the benefits I didn't think about until becoming an Air owner is the ease of cleaning that SquirrelMaster mentioned above. I too dump stems in an ISO bath for a few hours before rinsing in water and leaving to dry. I do this every 1-2 uses, as it's so easy to do while charging the unit. This works very well despite the heavily reused ISO now being a dark orange brown colour. I don't really feel the need to use Q-tips at all most of the time, and have several stems so constantly having a few soaking isn't a problem. I try to keep the amount of ISO in the bath to a minimum, and only use 99% ISO. Only issue for me is that the ultra fine screens I use sometimes drop out in the bath, which is a small inconvenience to fish them out and put back in.

I'm now wondering if it's worth evaporating the orange ISO bath on a plate in my shed to see if I get some sort of product I can mix with flowers to use in the Air. I don't want to waste the ISO if I won't get at least a usable amount of product, but I suppose it would be nice to start using a clean ISO bath again for my stems.

The way i clean my air stems is i heat them up with a lighter for some seconds until the oil in the stem is liquid and then clean it with some cotton on a small hook i've made...you get a completely clean stem all the resin on a cotton bud that u can drop right away in the vape and not have to evaporate any iso or anything.

you can make a mini lab station evaporating the iso and then having a tube transfering it through some cold place to become liquid again and gather it in another tube.one bowl with heat to evaporate and leave the resin one bowl to get pure iso and between a hose that goes from heat runs through cold and poof you have pure liquid iso you cna use again and pure resin to vape.

 

[OF]

Reclaim from the stems and the Arizer Exreme Q bags are always worthwhile to me... money is dear and fickle laws against me....

On the other hand i have had no luck with AVB.

That makes the decision real easy to make, you're on board for sure.

ABV is another case for sure. And, depending on how fully you vape the bud first, a very different profile indeed. For me, this became easy, although I stashing it for another try at eatables.

you can make a mini lab station evaporating the iso and then having a tube transfering it through some cold place to become liquid again and gather it in another tube.one bowl with heat to evaporate and leave the resin one bowl to get pure iso and between a hose that goes from heat runs through cold and poof you have pure liquid iso you cna use again and pure resin to vape.

All very true, but the fire danger should be factored in. ISO vapors are explosive. If you're not sure about this (and I mean really sure) my advice is to slowly and safely evaporate it off and buy fresh ISO. Burninng the house down is a guaranteed buzz kill, you might even get a chance to talk to the authorities about how it happened. Aside from the drug aspects, running such a 'still' is illegal on it's own (safety reasons). It puts you in with the moonshiners potentially, even if you're not drinking the stuff......not a good place to be unless you fancy a stay at the big house? Fire Marshals, as a rule, take a very dim view of this. They'd rather play with the spotted dog than risk their lives with fires/explosions. They can be mighty narrow mined that way.

Your call, of course, but his is not risk free.

OF

 

[Edward Hyde]

All very true, but the fire danger should be factored in. ISO vapors are explosive. If you're not sure about this (and I mean really sure) my advice is to slowly and safely evaporate it off and buy fresh ISO. Burninng the house down is a guaranteed buzz kill, you might even get a chance to talk to the authorities about how it happened. Aside from the drug aspects, running such a 'still' is illegal on it's own (safety reasons). It puts you in with the moonshiners potentially, even if you're not drinking the stuff......not a good place to be unless you fancy a stay at the big house? Fire Marshals, as a rule, take a very dim view of this. They'd rather play with the spotted dog than risk their lives with fires/explosions. They can be mighty narrow mined that way.

OF

Or you can use a heat pad for reptiles under the iso to evaporate it,something like this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HEAT-MAT-Te...119?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4194d531c7

always be carefull when u use fire with alcohol of course its dangerous couldnt agree more with OF.

 

[spiggot]

The way i clean my air stems is i heat them up with a lighter for some seconds until the oil in the stem is liquid and then clean it with some cotton on a small hook i've made...you get a completely clean stem all the resin on a cotton bud that u can drop right away in the vape and not have to evaporate any iso or anything.

you can make a mini lab station evaporating the iso and then having a tube transfering it through some cold place to become liquid again and gather it in another tube.one bowl with heat to evaporate and leave the resin one bowl to get pure iso and between a hose that goes from heat runs through cold and poof you have pure liquid iso you cna use again and pure resin to vape.

This sounds a bit like the kind of still you might use for distilling regular ethanol. It's a good idea, but I'd have to prove to myself that I can get a decent amount of reclaimed material before investing time and effort on setting something like this up.

I can offer you a bit of hopefully useful advice on the 'it'd be nice to have fresh alcohol' front: Set up a 'counterflow' system. Start a second jar of pure ISO. After a good soak in the dirty stuff, move the stem to the clean for a squeaky clean stem and more complete capture. Then, when you do harvest the dirty stuff, the clean jar becomes the new dirty and you replace the clean. That's the sort of thing industry would do.
OF

This is a good idea too, I think the second ISO bath would stay pretty clear until it's used as the primary, as the single ISO bath I'm using at the minute is so effective at cleaning the stems despite the colour of the liquid. If I'm honest it's probably me being a bit picky about using cleaner ISO, since the orange/brown stuff still cleans very effectively and smells the same as fresh ISO, and I always wash under the tap anyway after soaking. I'm probably just thinking clean ISO would be nice so I can justify evaporating the old stuff off now in the hope of getting some awesome product I've never tried before. Here in the UK concentrates are hard to come by, and expensive compared to USA/Canada. I've also avoided concentrates such as shatter so far so I don't potentially ruin the current effect I enjoy from flowers by pushing up my tolerance.

I'm still not sure if I should buy some filter papers to filter out the dirty ISO liquid or not. There's probably tiny bits of ABV in there too that were left in the stems prior to cleaning too, as well as minute bits of bud from the grinders. I'm not sure if the end product would be affected if this was left in the evaporating dish.

 

[OF]

I'm still not sure if I should buy some filter papers to filter out the dirty ISO liquid or not. There's probably tiny bits of ABV in there too that were left in the stems prior to cleaning too, as well as minute bits of bud from the grinders. I'm not sure if the end product would be affected if this was left in the evaporating dish.

Lots of guy use coffee filters for this, serious types using the brown (unbleached) version. I think it makes good sense, you're going to a lot of trouble why spoil it? A good tip is to use a squirt bottle to wash down the filter with fresh ISO so you don't loose anything to absorption there. It doesn't take much to flush the paper out, a couple of small shots typically. In the lab you'd use a 'wash bottle' for this stem, go figure.....

OF

 

[Ashish]

What does it mean when both LED's show aqua blue? Just happened, took the battery out and now its fine.

Wait, does it just look like the picture below (the lights pictured are constant, not flashing)? Because if so, it's just the top LED signalling the lowest heat setting (blue - 180°C) and the bottom LED indicating that the selected temperature has been reached.