ehakim

Well-Known Member
I'm in the UK and 90% of the batteries i buy are from a local shop (great guy that i trust 100%, i make pre-built coils for him to sell so know him well) I always recommend OEM Arizer as anything else i could recommend i could not give a reputable source, the other 10% i buy online are ones that are recommended by manufacturers, always direct or through authorised retailers for peace of mind.

A few pages back there was a post about some on eBay shipped from the US (there are restrictions on these kind of batteries for air travel) and they reported all was good.

Although IMO the only thing you will gain is a cheaper price, any performance improvement would be so small you probably wouldn't even notice, and the price over the life of the battery is for me not even worth thinking about, if say it only lasted a year an OEM would cost 3.5p per day (just to expand for those not in the UK there are 100p in £1, £1 is roughly $1.5 USD)

The battery thing :worms:has been ongoing for a while now and i think to sum it up, it depends on how you feel about it, if you understand how these kind of batteries can vary and what effect that could have and want to save a few £/$ then shop around, if your new to Li-Ion batteries and want to play it safe and use something thats been tested to work with the Air then stick with OEM Arizer.
Awesome response, much appreciated!

What's the consensus around hete regarding USB charging? I noticed on their site that they sell.car charger that uses a USB cable, know where/ if I can buy just the wire?
 
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bluenavey00

Arizer Air Aficionado
Awesome response, much appreciated!

What's the consensus around hete regarding USB charging? I noticed on their site that they sell.car charger that uses a USB cable, know where/ if I can buy just the wire?

One of the best ways I found is to get a USB to PSP charging cable. Just confirm with the seller that the exposed pin and plastic tip is 12mm, from memory. Measure your wall charger pin to confirm.

Some will be the right length from stock, some will require a small amount of plastic to be removed. Some you can not remove the plastic due to there being a wider metal area under the plastic.

I dont do it often, but have charged from a decent brand portable charger, Anker. I wouldn't use a cheap one as the current and voltage may not be great and I guess could damage the Air.
 

F3minusD

Part timer.
Great news, I am glad to hear this :D

I am also in the same position, its been just over 3 months with my Air now and I have not combusted since. Enjoy the health benefits, I'm sure you will keep feeling better and better, both physically and mentally.

On another note, considering I have owned my first and only vape for 3 months now do I deserve to take the 'n00b' out my signature yet? What do you think guys? :p

FuckCombustion :D

I wish i knew about this sooner! It's only been a few short weeks but I actually prefer it now, by a long way (especithe smell of the condensed gold in my stem)!! Plus the benefits keep on coming! (not even got to AVB yet, Edibles or Qwiso?)
Being from the UK, standard practice is mix with Toba*** (i don't even want to mention that dirty word here) wrap in papers and combust, it's not very discrete or healthy, extremely wasteful (not cheap in the UK) plus all you're left with once you've straightened out is a stinking ashtray.

Thank you to everyone on this thread and the solo thread (been lurking for about a month since getting my Air and have got this far with all you're help and advice)
Too many names to mention but thanks to you all.
Congratulations to Bluenavey00 for becoming a man.
Remove thy "n00b" moniker, squire, for today thou art a man.
 

Ashish

Active Member
Being from the UK, standard practice is mix with Toba*** (i don't even want to mention that dirty word here) wrap in papers and combust, it's not very discrete or healthy, extremely wasteful (not cheap in the UK) plus all you're left with once you've straightened out is a stinking ashtray.


I feel your pain. That's exactly what it's like here in Australia, too. Nobody I have ever met would ever dream of smoking marijuana without first mixing it (at least 50:50) with the heavily processed and additive-ridden tobacco from tailor-made cigarettes (the opposite of what you guys in the mother country call "shag", ie. loose tobacco for both grandpa-pipes and roll-your-owns).

The market for vaporizers here "down under" is miniscule, as far as I can tell. I live in the state (well, technically a territory) with by far the most relaxed marijuana laws in the land (not that that's really saying very much) and still I could only find one head shop (well, a sex shop actually) selling vaporizers within a 100km radius.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure I'm rambling now. I'm not quite sure what my overarching point was going to be any more, but hopefully it lies somewhere in what I've already written.
 

bluenavey00

Arizer Air Aficionado
I wish i knew about this sooner! It's only been a few short weeks but I actually prefer it now, by a long way (especithe smell of the condensed gold in my stem)!! Plus the benefits keep on coming! (not even got to AVB yet, Edibles or Qwiso?)
Being from the UK, standard practice is mix with Toba*** (i don't even want to mention that dirty word here) wrap in papers and combust, it's not very discrete or healthy, extremely wasteful (not cheap in the UK) plus all you're left with once you've straightened out is a stinking ashtray.

Thank you to everyone on this thread and the solo thread (been lurking for about a month since getting my Air and have got this far with all you're help and advice)
Too many names to mention but thanks to you all.
Congratulations to Bluenavey00 for becoming a man.

Also being from the UK I was accustomed to combusting with tobacco, dirty now I think back. All that unfiltered tobacco. I have tried to educate my friends but they are stuck in their ways, it hurts to watch them smoke all that tobacco and partially waste all their weed.

I have also not got into edibles from AVB yet, still saving to make up a decent batch :D

Just incase you wanted to clean your stems, and didn't know, I found one of the best ways is to put your stem with some table salt in a small baggie with some ISO cleaning alcohol. Leave for a few mins, shake and repeat. Just rinse with water after and leave to dry. Love seeing the stems come out brand new looking every time. If you do it regularly it makes the cleaning process really easy.

Thank you for your congratulations, I guess in a mere two months time you will also become a man. ;)

Enjoy your Air's people :D
 
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poonman

Well-Known Member
I feel your pain. That's exactly what it's like here in Australia, too. Nobody I have ever met would ever dream of smoking marijuana without first mixing it (at least 50:50) with the heavily processed and additive-ridden tobacco from tailor-made cigarettes (the opposite of what you guys in the mother country call "shag", ie. loose tobacco for both grandpa-pipes and roll-your-owns).

The market for vaporizers here "down under" is miniscule, as far as I can tell. I live in the state (well, technically a territory) with by far the most relaxed marijuana laws in the land (not that that's really saying very much) and still I could only find one head shop (well, a sex shop actually) selling vaporizers within a 100km radius.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure I'm rambling now. I'm not quite sure what my overarching point was going to be any more, but hopefully it lies somewhere in what I've already written.

From what I'm hearing ,
there seems to be quite the biz. opportunity
for you if you get in early before anyone else does ...
Having relaxed MJ laws should help too . Open a LHS !!!

Vapes and dildos , just make sure you keep the Air
in the right section . :rofl:
 

UnshavenFish

Well-Known Member
Also being from the UK I was accustomed to combusting with tobacco, dirty now I think back. All that unfiltered tobacco. I have tried to educate my friends but they are stuck in their ways, it hurts to watch them smoke all that tobacco and partially waste all their weed.

I have also not got into edibles from AVB yet, still saving to make up a decent batch :D

Just incase you wanted to clean your stems, and didn't know, I found one of the best ways is to put your stem with some table salt in a small baggie with some ISO cleaning alcohol. Leave for a few mins, shake and repeat. Just rinse with water after and leave to dry. Love seeing the stems come out brand new looking every time. If you do it regally it makes the cleaning process really easy.

Thank you for your congratulations, I guess in a mere two months time you will also become a man. ;)

Enjoy your Air's people :D

Just a FYI i also use ISO to clean my stems but no salt, i keep ISO in a jar then drop the stems in for anything from 30 minutes to overnight, take stems out and close jar again then run stems under tap then wipe/leave to dry, my Jar is getting nice and dark golden now:tup: so will evaporate (99 ISO works best for this as less water) the ISO off soon and see what lovely goodness i get:science: (i hate waste)
 

bluenavey00

Arizer Air Aficionado
I'd like to think that everything I do, I do in at least a somewhat regal manner. :lol:

Haa great spot! Corrected :p

Just a FYI i also use ISO to clean my stems but no salt, i keep ISO in a jar then drop the stems in for anything from 30 minutes to overnight, take stems out and close jar again then run stems under tap then wipe/leave to dry, my Jar is getting nice and dark golden now:tup: so will evaporate (99 ISO works best for this as less water) the ISO off soon and see what lovely goodness i get:science: (i hate waste)

Interesting way of doing it, may have to give it a go, I have a small 200ML bottle my first ever batch of ISO came in (for cleaning CPU gunk off processors) which would be good for this. When you come to evaporation how do you do this? I cleaned a grinder with ISO once and let evaporate in a small china dish, but found it very hard, near impossible to get all the leftovers off the dish.
 

Ashish

Active Member
arizerair001.jpg



I'm not being an asshole, I'm just genuinely curious: why is that silicone sleeve ass backwards? :peace:


From what I'm hearing ,
there seems to be quite the biz. opportunity
for you if you get in early before anyone else does ...
Having relaxed MJ laws should help too . Open a LHS !!!

Vapes and dildos , just make sure you keep the Air
in the right section . :rofl:


Damn, that's not a bad idea at all... :science:
 

F3minusD

Part timer.
Just a FYI i also use ISO to clean my stems but no salt, i keep ISO in a jar then drop the stems in for anything from 30 minutes to overnight, take stems out and close jar again then run stems under tap then wipe/leave to dry, my Jar is getting nice and dark golden now:tup: so will evaporate (99 ISO works best for this as less water) the ISO off soon and see what lovely goodness i get:science: (i hate waste)

This is what I plan to try! (and some AVB cookies/brownies, haven't yet looked for a recipe just saving my straw colored/light brown stem biscuits/disc/pucks in a glass jar?)
 

murf2010

Well-Known Member
How's the drawing resistance with the Air? Also does the stem jiggle loosely like the solo one does? I'm deciding between this and the Mighty
 
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UnshavenFish

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Interesting way of doing it, may have to give it a go, I have a small 200ML bottle my first ever batch of ISO came in (for cleaning CPU gunk off processors) which would be good for this. When you come to evaporation how do you do this? I cleaned a grinder with ISO once and let evaporate in a small china dish, but found it very hard, near impossible to get all the leftovers off the dish.

The trick to getting it off it to use a bigger/wider dish, i use a 12 inch by 12 inch Pyrex dish, wide and low is better than tall or narrow, with more surface area it should go faster too, there are a few different ways to evaporate but I'm no expert so will keep it basic (a quick search on FC will give every detail you need:tup:)

IMO the easiest/safest way is to cover the dish (i used some of my daughters new tights:lol: she wasn't happy:rant:) and put it outside overnight (although time can vary) then use a razor blade to scrape off when ready (if hard to scrape a little heat can help) and for tiny leftover bits a little heat then wipe with some cotton and stick it straight in your vape :science::clap:

You could use a fan blowing across the dish to speed things up but needs to be in a good well ventilated area (remember the fumes have to go somewhere)

I have read some use a stove/cooker but for me ISO and flames is not something i want to try in my house.

I use a glass jar with metal lid that is just wide enough to lay my stems down in to clean, and only have enough ISO in to just cover them (the less ISO used the easier evap should be)

Now with my results the taste was not fantastic (but not bad, although maybe not for everyone) but a little went a long way and the effect was nice:ko:
 

shawn0223

Well-Known Member
@Vape Hound

A little late to the conversation but welcome to my world lol. I've posted several times in the beginning that the air ripped up my throat. Ive smoked for years with no issue, bongs, joints all with no issues. Even once through a monster can back in high school. (Said fuck that immediately after it murdered my throat lol)

With that being said, the airs fucked up my throat several times and i tried to power/vape through it (big mistake) enough to where I had to stop take had to take antibiotics for my throat/ear. Tried cough drops, cloraseptic spray, all that shit and Still afterwards through a bubbler it can irritate me on yellow temp. And Ive been on this baby since they released it I think. Maybe after the black Friday sale lol. Vaped a lot since then hahahaha.

I noticed a lot of this attributes to the bud I used. My local guy, don't know where he gets his stuff from is always a little sticky and moist. Compared to something kept at the right humidity and cured right like almost every strain I got from Colorado, the difference in irritation is like night and day. I've even made it a point to put his sticky stuff aside for a month or so to let it cure more and it was better on my throat when I came back to it. (Just my own little random/non technical experiment lol just trying shit to help my throat lol) FYI. I use a medium grind, no screen with the 70mm stem and mouthpiece. I've used the all glass, vortex and even Randy's gong. All still Mess with my throat lol. I Even use the vortex with the bubbler and it helps a lot but can still irritate lol

After reading @OF post regarding smaller hits, I'll try that more too. I used to just inhale to capacity when I first got this but started tapering off to maybe 7-10 second draws and it helped along with the better cured material. When with that, after maybe two to three bowls, my throat is bitchin again and I have to take a break for a few hours or so before trying again.

I bought the vapefiend bubbler stem piece so we'll see how that plays a roll in helping my throat, might try even shorter hits too. Hope any of this is useful and hope u get Ur throat all better man. I hate not being able to smoke when u get that sharp ass pain in the back of your throat.
 

olivianewtonjohn

Well-Known Member
@Vape Hound

A little late to the conversation but welcome to my world lol. I've posted several times in the beginning that the air ripped up my throat. Ive smoked for years with no issue, bongs, joints all with no issues. Even once through a monster can back in high school. (Said fuck that immediately after it murdered my throat lol)

With that being said, the airs fucked up my throat several times and i tried to power/vape through it (big mistake) enough to where I had to stop take had to take antibiotics for my throat/ear. Tried cough drops, cloraseptic spray, all that shit and Still afterwards through a bubbler it can irritate me on yellow temp. And Ive been on this baby since they released it I think. Maybe after the black Friday sale lol. Vaped a lot since then hahahaha.

I noticed a lot of this attributes to the bud I used. My local guy, don't know where he gets his stuff from is always a little sticky and moist. Compared to something kept at the right humidity and cured right like almost every strain I got from Colorado, the difference in irritation is like night and day. I've even made it a point to put his sticky stuff aside for a month or so to let it cure more and it was better on my throat when I came back to it. (Just my own little random/non technical experiment lol just trying shit to help my throat lol) FYI. I use a medium grind, no screen with the 70mm stem and mouthpiece. I've used the all glass, vortex and even Randy's gong. All still Mess with my throat lol. I Even use the vortex with the bubbler and it helps a lot but can still irritate lol

After reading @OF post regarding smaller hits, I'll try that more too. I used to just inhale to capacity when I first got this but started tapering off to maybe 7-10 second draws and it helped along with the better cured material. When with that, after maybe two to three bowls, my throat is bitchin again and I have to take a break for a few hours or so before trying again.

I bought the vapefiend bubbler stem piece so we'll see how that plays a roll in helping my throat, might try even shorter hits too. Hope any of this is useful and hope u get Ur throat all better man. I hate not being able to smoke when u get that sharp ass pain in the back of your throat.

Alot of what you said doesnt make sense to me. In my experience drier herb lets out more particles and alot more vapor at any given temperature. My suggestion would be to start very slow with temp. What temp do you usually start with? And also I found a HUGE difference when using the dry mouthpiece by using a screen.

Particles and heat are your enemies
 

shawn0223

Well-Known Member
Alot of what you said doesnt make sense to me. In my experience drier herb lets out more particles and alot more vapor at any given temperature. My suggestion would be to start very slow with temp. What temp do you usually start with? And also I found a HUGE difference when using the dry mouthpiece by using a screen.

Particles and heat are your enemies

I normally just vape on yellow. I will agree with you that drier herb produces better vapor but for some reason if its too most (not cured right) it almost always is harsher on my throat. Maybe my throat is just a bitch lol
 
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olivianewtonjohn

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I normally just vape on yellow. I will agree with you that drier herb produces better vapor but for some reason if its too most (not cured right) it almost always is harsher on my throat. Maybe my throat is just a bitch lol
You start on yellow with a dry mouthpiece? Ummmm. Have you tried starting on blue?
If I were in your positions what I would do (and BTW my throat gets irritated as well)
-Take smaller hits
-Start on blue
-Use a screen
-Keep a drink handy for inbetween hits
-Slowly increase heat when you dont get vapor, go up 1 step at a time

EDIT: Wait are you using yellow with a bubbler? That might be more reasonable. I cant give much advise with a bubbler since I dont usually use my air that way. From what I remember the last time I used my bubbler with the air it was more harsh than my enano. Maybe let your throat heal and then try the above but without a bubbler. With a bubbler it was harsh for me when I was using higher temps but lower temps were not satisfying they were very thin.
 

Vape Hound

Member
@Vape Hound

A little late to the conversation but welcome to my world lol. I've posted several times in the beginning that the air ripped up my throat. Ive smoked for years with no issue, bongs, joints all with no issues. Even once through a monster can back in high school. (Said fuck that immediately after it murdered my throat lol)

With that being said, the airs fucked up my throat several times and i tried to power/vape through it (big mistake) enough to where I had to stop take had to take antibiotics for my throat/ear. Tried cough drops, cloraseptic spray, all that shit and Still afterwards through a bubbler it can irritate me on yellow temp. And Ive been on this baby since they released it I think. Maybe after the black Friday sale lol. Vaped a lot since then hahahaha.

I noticed a lot of this attributes to the bud I used. My local guy, don't know where he gets his stuff from is always a little sticky and moist. Compared to something kept at the right humidity and cured right like almost every strain I got from Colorado, the difference in irritation is like night and day. I've even made it a point to put his sticky stuff aside for a month or so to let it cure more and it was better on my throat when I came back to it. (Just my own little random/non technical experiment lol just trying shit to help my throat lol) FYI. I use a medium grind, no screen with the 70mm stem and mouthpiece. I've used the all glass, vortex and even Randy's gong. All still Mess with my throat lol. I Even use the vortex with the bubbler and it helps a lot but can still irritate lol

After reading @OF post regarding smaller hits, I'll try that more too. I used to just inhale to capacity when I first got this but started tapering off to maybe 7-10 second draws and it helped along with the better cured material. When with that, after maybe two to three bowls, my throat is bitchin again and I have to take a break for a few hours or so before trying again.

I bought the vapefiend bubbler stem piece so we'll see how that plays a roll in helping my throat, might try even shorter hits too. Hope any of this is useful and hope u get Ur throat all better man. I hate not being able to smoke when u get that sharp ass pain in the back of your throat.


Shawn I think you have uncovered one of the main reasons behind this throat burning effect, namely that my home-grown bud, though ostensibly dry to the stem-snapping stage, is almost never cured, since I generally harvest in such modest quantities that I simply "speed dry" the herb up in the loft where the intense dry heat extracts all noticeable moisture in just 3 to 4 days at most, whereupon I proceed to fire it up in joints, or extract the TCH into coconut oil to use in baking cookies whose effect is purely sedative, with zero psychoactive payload.

I must say that I am somewhat relieved to learn that the throat burning effect I experienced has been noted by at least one other user of the Airizer Air, because I was starting to suspect that perhaps I was already coming down with some respiratory ailment, and that my use of the Airizer was merely coincidental, but not actually a causative factor behind my discomfort.

Reading about your familiar persistent throat issues even when using longer stems, bubblers and shorter hits, I am beginning to suspect that a very tiny minority of new vaporizer users MIGHT be genetically predisposed to throat irritation regardless of the amount of vapor conditioning that is employed to prevent such, and that unfortunately, I fall into that small percentage who might ultimately be forced to revert back to combustion or edibles as the ingestion vehicle of choice.

My primary reason for venturing into the vape world has been the stealth aspect that frees me up to vape at home without that tell-tale stench of burnt bud hanging in the air for a half-hour afterward, with the health benefits of vaping being the icing on the cake. Now, in light of my experience thus far, and also taking into account your own observations encompassing the use of longer stems and bubblers to minimal effect, I am having a serious re-think about whether or not to subject my overly-sensitive respiratory system to further vaping experiments.

That being said, I do intend to eliminate that final variable in the equation, by now setting aside most of my "dry" bud for a nice long cure in preparation for one final foray into the vaping world in a couple of months when the bud is well and truly cured. In the meantime I will revert to edibles to prevent the usual insomnia that sets in when I cut out toking altogether, and of course I will continue to lurk in this forum to learn as much as I can about this device that I am still determined to use with appropriate precautions once the curing process is finally complete with my stash.

Once again I thank you kindly for your contribution to this discussion, for I now at least know for sure that I am not suffering from some pre-existing respiratory ailment which only appeared by coincidence when I started vaping for the first ever time.

This bud's for you, brother.
 

peterpiper

(peter-ex-piper)
I find that by using s.s screens along with glass ones 'catches' the larger particles of reclaim and reduces the harshness. It also produces lots of very clear reclaim, I mean lots

I stick in a bit of cotton wool, swirl it around and keep in a silicon tub, by Friday I have enough to stuff an empty T bag full, staple together, simmer in full fat milk add coco and sugar, WOW
 

WoodVillain

Backwoods Rated
Had my Air for a couple months now... Today was the first time i have tried starting it on the blue setting. I was surprised to get 5 or 6 nice hits on blue... Of course i didnt get much from the higher temps afterwards but it was nice to see i dont have to start off at green all the time.

Not sure why i have yet to try a lower setting than green before today... Green just seems like the place you are SUPPOSE to start from LOL
 
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