The Arizer Air

[stark1]

Nice find, only hitch is the slow caravan from China. Spring maybe?

The other thorn is to match with a hi-Amp charger.

It's nice to explore alternatives, but the battery and charger that came with the AA works. Fine.



(@MeditativeMind , couldn't you just pop into Arizer for your battery+skin, not like Canada is that big. Kiddin.)

 

[OF]

Make sure you guys use that cable with the right AC-DC adapter.

Input: 100-240V, 50/60Hz, 0.3A
Output: 5V, 1.2A (important!)

Not really important as long as you stick to USB.....one of the advantages of standards......

While the output voltage is important, USB standards fix this at the correct (5 Volt nominal) level. No need to worry there. Current rating is of lesser importance, no harm will come from ignoring it, the worst that can happen is charging will be slowed down if the current available is less than ,8 Amps (the maximum Air can use).

In this application there's no difference at all between a 1.0 and and 1.2 Amp supply, don't go nuts looking for 'the extra .2 Amps', you can't use it anyway. The port I'm using is good for 3 Amps, Air still only uses .8 maximum.

Any USB port is safe to use, be it on your computer, a 'power bank', wall wort (plug in mains supply) or auto cigarette adapter.

Nice find, only hitch is the slow caravan from China. Spring maybe?

The other thorn is to match with a hi-Amp charger.

Mine took about 2 weeks IIRC. There are faster options, but you have to pay more.

Again, the 'high amp charger' is probably a waste of money. 1.0 is more than you can use.

OF

 

[MeditativeMind]

Not really important as long as you stick to USB.....one of the advantages of standards......

While the output voltage is important, USB standards fix this at the correct (5 Volt nominal) level. No need to worry there. Current rating is of lesser importance, no harm will come from ignoring it, the worst that can happen is charging will be slowed down if the current available is less than ,8 Amps (the maximum Air can use).

In this application there's no difference at all between a 1.0 and and 1.2 Amp supply, don't go nuts looking for 'the extra .2 Amps', you can't use it anyway. The port I'm using is good for 3 Amps, Air still only uses .8 maximum.

Any USB port is safe to use, be it on your computer, a 'power bank', wall wort (plug in mains supply) or auto cigarette adapter.



Mine took about 2 weeks IIRC. There are faster options, but you have to pay more.

Again, the 'high amp charger' is probably a waste of money. 1.0 is more than you can use.

OF

You're 100% correct. I didn't mean it's important for safety reasons but that charging would slow down and might affect pass-through. Also, some older or cheaper PCs won't provide a full or stable 5v output through USB (sucks but it's true).

It might have an affect on the pass-through but I don't know enough about this devices electronics to make any assumptions on that.

 

[stark1]

What our Canadian friend said. Computer ports AFAIK don't have but the nominal amperage....

So, you have to tool around for one with @ least 0.8Amp?

 

[MeditativeMind]

I just had a second session from the same bowl. On top of that, the unit auto-shut off and I could still pull vapour for another 3-4 minutes while it cooled.

Extremely impressed with this device.

 

[OF]

What our Canadian friend said. Computer ports AFAIK don't have but the nominal amperage....

So, you have to tool around for one with @ least 0.8Amp?

Ports built to spec 1.0 or better (any you find are likely at least 2.0) are rated to at least .5 Amps:
"Max. current
0.5–0.9 A (general);"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB

The lowest you're likely to find (probably laptops and tablets these days) is still good for plenty of current. At most changing a 3 hour charge to four?

FWIW my many years old Dell can drive about 1.1 through the USB ports, it charges my ESV (which draws 1.06 Amps) just fine. And Air normally, of course. Just be very careful of more than 5 Volts. For instance, Solo (12 Volts, one Amp) has a connector that fits and is slightly less than one mm short of making contact as near as I can tell.....that I find spooky.

If you want maximum charging rate possible (and don't we all?), stay over .8 Amps (800mA). !.0 Amps being the common size up after that. So, if you get say an auto USB adapter, pay a bit more for 1.0 rather than 500mA if you're in a hurry.

OF

 

[pakalolo]

(@MeditativeMind , couldn't you just pop into Arizer for your battery+skin, not like Canada is that big. Kiddin.)

 

[Airmaster One]

Nitecore are good chargers IMO, i have i2, d2 and d4 (shows voltage) and have had consistent results although there are faster chargers out there i have a xtar vp2 (faster charge options) which again IMO is another good one.

Fastest would be a hobby charger but thats a bit overkill really.
There are lots of in-depth reviews on most of the torch sites for these chargers that you might find useful

I agree, I really like the D2/D4 chargers. Yes it does take a while to fully charge an Air battery (3-4 hours max) but I love that it shows the time elapsed, the power levels, and especially the exact voltage that the battery is currently at. I like to pull the battery out when it's around 4.18v just to be safe. It's probably unnecessary but it gives me peace of mind.

 

[OF]

I like to pull the battery out when it's around 4.18v just to be safe. It's probably unnecessary but it gives me peace of mind.

And longer battery life.

OF

 

[Traaaaan]

I just had a second session from the same bowl. On top of that, the unit auto-shut off and I could still pull vapour for another 3-4 minutes while it cooled.

Extremely impressed with this device.

I love vaping with temp control. I can do a session on low in the morning and then come back to it at night and roast the hell out of it at a higher setting and STILL get some return from it by making canna oil.

 

[MeditativeMind]

I love vaping with temp control. I can do a session on low in the morning and then come back to it at night and roast the hell out of it at a higher setting and STILL get some return from it by making canna oil.

Yeah, I forgot to add that part to. On top of this insane efficiency, we have the ability to reuse the AVB

Incredible!



Anyone know of the SMALLEST water tool? I see a few on the market but which is the smallest?

 

[CarolKing]

Vaporizing is the most efficient way of using cannabis as long as you have a vaporizer like the Air or the Solo that uses small amounts of herb.

I usually can get 2 - 10 min sessions with my units on one oven load. You could have a session in the afternoon and save your ABV for evening at a higher temp. I have been saving my ABV for edibles so I only run it once in the Solo or the Air.

Saving product and good flavor. Why would anyone want to combust?
Fuckcombustion

 

[Justpassedu]

I rarely get two sessions off a packing. I like to start at green and end with yellow and usually by the ten minute shutoff i am done with the load. There may be a bit more good's still in there but i save that for edibles to give them a bit more of a kick lol.

 

[Slow Draw McGraw]

I rarely get two sessions off a packing. I like to start at green and end with yellow and usually by the ten minute shutoff i am done with the load. There may be a bit more good's still in there but i save that for edibles to give them a bit more of a kick lol.

For me, I can get like 1.25 sessions. So basically, 12 minutes and 30 seconds from a load. That is on white for the first 10 minutes and then green for the rest. Sometimes, i do a few pulls on orange. There is still a little vapor being produced but nothing to write home about, so I save it for later to mix with some nutella and such.
Some of my vapes, I take it all the way to the end, so i disard that ABV.

 

[holyparsniper]

I was really stoked on @CentiZen battery option for the Air. I think it was a little too good to be true.

My bad, thinking VapePower.ca was Canadian (His site ends in .ca) and he was using Canada post to ship.

So the pricing is in American, so for two batteries, Canadian it converted to 47.53 Canadian, including the 15 shipping Canada post that was also converted to US.

So end of the day, I could have walked back to the shop I bought my Air from and got two official Air batteries for 5 dollars less. I haven't got any shipping notice yet and ordered on Friday.

Lesson learned! Hopefully I can save some fellow Canucks some bucks that see this!

As a side note, I just can't believe how efficient this device is with green. Two seshes on blue, 10 mins each. Lots of flavour. Save the ABV for more maniacal foods later.

The only thing I can knock it for is warm up time, (But I think it's worth it if thats what's helping enhance flavour)

And battery life, which of course can be reconciled with batteries.

Taking it on tour back out East and can't wait to but some KM's on it and show off to friends!

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

Yeah I noticed its actually cheaper to order from puffitup compared to vapepower, shipping costs are very high. Thought it was in Canada and that was why (im in US) but guess not.

 

[Vapormatic]

I was really stoked on Centrizens battery option for the Air. I think it was a little too good to be true.

My bad, thinking VapePower.ca was Canadian (His site ends in .ca) and he was using Canada post to ship.

So the pricing is in American, so for two batteries, Canadian it converted to 47.53 Canadian, including the 15 shipping Canada post that was also converted to US.

So end of the day, I could have walked back to the shop I bought my Air from and got two official Air batteries for 5 dollars less. I haven't got any shipping notice yet and ordered on Friday.

Lesson learned! Hopefully I can save some fellow Canucks some bucks that see this!

Yeah it's a sham alright! Never pay US dollars from a Canadian vendor(Yes, it's Canadian) unless they factor in the exchange rate. That was the point of debasing the Loonie. Support those Canadians who pass on the savings, like PV or Arizer.

 

[HSIHP]

Yeah I noticed its actually cheaper to order from puffitup compared to vapepower, shipping costs are very high. Thought it was in Canada and that was why (im in US) but guess not.

Just popped over to PiU and with my code and free shipping it came out pretty cheap! I don't think i I would ever have the need for a second battery with all my other vapes and easy charging on the go, but hey, why not! I might end up buying a bunch for the summer fests coming up, this baby may just kill my pax.

 

[Drspoiler103]

arrghh ....was going to pull the trigger one here (finally) but PIU code not working for some reason (*likely user error ?) and PV seems to be out of stock at the moment .

 

[Chainfire]

Thanks for the responses on wax pens vs flower vapes. I'm definitely leaning towards the pens now-- Cheers and thanks for all the great info over the last few months folks! =)

 

[HSIHP]

arrghh ....was going to pull the trigger one here (finally) but PIU code not working for some reason (*likely user error ?) and PV seems to be out of stock at the moment .

Maybe try all caps?

 

[stark1]

Email Randy. He stays on top of his email.

 

[WoodVillain]

Tracking just updated and my PVHES straight turbo just hit my city. Hopefully get it tomorrow but if the weather man is correct we may not get mail at all tomorrow... Good to know it will be here soon though.

Anyways... I never been a fan of using cannabis in edibles. I have tried many ways over the last 15 years or so and i either eat too much or not enough. That being said id LOVE to try out some gummies or hard candies regardless LOL, but my ABV doesnt go into edibles....

I have tried a QWISO run with ABV and didnt much care for the end product either.....

Once this country gets its head on straight and the laws change equally across the nation it would be pretty cool if there was an established place you could drop off or send in your ABV as a donation to be used in edibles for people that have medical conditions but cant afford their medicine. As a disabled veteran myself id be especially appreciative of a place like that where i could personally donate to help other vets.

As it is my ABV doesnt get used for anything. Because of this i always try and squeeze out as much vapor as i can from it and normally go a while on red setting to accomplish this.


Un-related question... Am i the only one who likes the taste of the "resin" stuff that comes from vaping?? Its so much different than a pipe's nasty tasting resin... I get excited when my extreme Q bags get dark because its so easy to collect it and love how easy it is to get the resin out of the stems with mouthpieces.... Maybe some people will think thats not very classy but i could personally care less LMAO... waste not, want not.

WOW... Guess i thought i was writing a novel.

 

[biohacker]

Where is the best deal for Canadian's to buy the Air from now? From my understanding PV doesn't include the extra battery now?

Also, everything i've been reading around here says to stick to the stock battery, but lotsa people say that other batteries are working... has there been a consensus on the most cost effective battery that WORKS? It would be nice to have 4 extras in addition to the stock, and I assume the Nitecore 4 battery charger is the way to go.

It seems almost silly using the Solo outside the house.....I need that ultra stealth again, I swear I smelled SPRING in the air yesterday! (too bad it's gone with -30c w/ wind this morning!)

Also, is there anywhere that sells that 1/2 length strength mouth piece (not with the black plastic) yet?

 

[DJ Colonel Corn]

hanks, I thought the chemistry had to do more with what was charging the battery

Well @g14production , the chemistry also dictates may other things, including how the battery vents.
We as a rule use IMR chemistry batteries in our devices mainly because if there's a problem like a short, the IMR battery will vent aerosol gas and then some liquid. Other chemistry types vent with FLAME, which is obviously more dangerous and the device is right next to your face.
There ARE better batteries out there. However, for your warranty's sake and ease of use, just stick with Arizer or CentiZen's batteries. However, I do believe Arizer does not honor CentiZen's battery in their warranty. I am also a bit alarmed that planetvape is not actually canadian ? Why the canadian post then...I just got 2 of @CentiZen 's batteries, and the package really came from Canada. So I don't really understand, but do find it odd he does not offer the exchange rated Canadian price on his site.
That said, I've had dealings with CentiZen with my Solo's HC Battery I got from his site. Let's just say I messed up and he took care of me extremely well, I owe the guy a big one. So before we assume things let's ask the man himself.
All the best to all my fellow air-heads ! Luvin' the vapin' life. Considering getting some of that heat shrink silicone, black, to put on my glass stems to make it even more ecig like. Saw it in a post here in this thread.
ALSO, whoever posted the post about Jyarz containers, THANK YOU ! They are great. Made entirely in USA, they are glass-lined smell-proof shatter-proof uv-proof herb containers that are just the right size for my Air case, which I've downsized. Click Here to see the Jyarz Site. Here's a pic:

So yeah the glass insert goes inside of the plastic case.
AND... there was an error so the company took REAL GOOD care of me. Can't share the details, but this is one friendly helpful supportive super customer-service company, for sure. Order one for yourself, they work great for the air as all you gotta do is stick the stem into your jYarz full of ground herb.

Here's a pic of how I've got my new down-sized eGo case set up (sorry, horrible picture quality, almost waited until tomorrow, but, this gives u the idea anyway):

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So that's two batteries, a Solo long stem, the Air, and the Jyarz container filled with ground weed.
With this in my pocket, I'm good to go ! It's the 'big' or 'large' sized eGo case.
It closes nicely with all this gear in it. Perfect ! I'm sure you're all familiar with these eGo carrying cases, they're everywhere and have been mentioned extensively in this thread. They cost about $5-$8 depending on where you get them. The Classic Jyarz container is $13 + shipping I believe.
Note: I posted this case earlier but have a better design now. Here's the post from then and here's a pic of the eGo case closed :

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More power to my fellow air-heads !!! Stay vaped !