The Angus Halogen Vape by YLL Vape

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

I actually agree!
Critical questions are ok but there's a whole lot of scrutiny going on here. Maybe i missed it but i never saw (for example) the V3 pro being undressed to the very bone like this. But again: i might have missed it.
Anyhow: i respect the patience shown by @YLLVAPE OFFICAL during this waterboa.. i mean interrogation...

I think it's a good sign, it means it has gained attention of vapers with high standards.

 

[YLLVAPE OFFICAL]

And what is the model number for your 3M stickers so we can look into it ourselves? It isn't that we don't trust you, we just like to see things with our own eyes here.

3M9495-300LSE

 

[Zuhdj]

https://imgur.com/a/4hBvdPu

It's checks out! Who's cooling unit is getting up to 200 degrees F (that'd be waaaay too hot to touch at all)

Sorry the pic is blurry asf. You'll have to click on it to see the chart

 

[YLLVAPE OFFICAL]

I just have one little gripe....ok, here it is. Why don't you include batteries?

From what I've seen in the ecig world, shipping the device around the globe is usually the reason. Gotta jump through a bunch more hoops if the batteries are included.

this is our concern for the international shipping policy. ecig goods get impounded by the customs sometimes. I need to be responsible for my retailers, their order gets stuck at the custom, which would be big loss for both of us. Also the ecig products with replaceable battery (not built in battery) get limitations on the flights, it will also affect the shipping from retailers to the customers. and you can see there are many products including replaceable batteries. They might already have many batteries at home. 18650 batteries are pretty conventional, and easy to buy it. also for YLLVAPE future products, they will not have batteries included as well.

 

[Goatts]

https://imgur.com/a/4hBvdPu

It's checks out! Who's cooling unit is getting up to 200 degrees F (that'd be waaaay too hot to touch at all)

Sorry the pic is blurry asf. You'll have to click on it to see the chart

See my previous post #863. Other well respected and highly reputable vaporizer manufacturers use the same 3M sticker very near the air path. I’m not concerned. Heck, if you live in a big city you breath in more bad shit every breath you take when you’re outside. IMO

 

[Dr. G]

this is our concern for the international shipping policy. ecig goods get impounded by the customs sometimes. I need to be responsible for my retailers, their order gets stuck at the custom, which would be big loss for both of us. Also the ecig products with replaceable battery (not built in battery) get limitations on the flights, it will also affect the shipping from retailers to the customers. and you can see there are many products including replaceable batteries. They might already have many batteries at home. 18650 batteries are pretty conventional, and easy to buy it. also for YLLVAPE future products, they will not have batteries included as well.

Thank you for the reply...I know batteries are easy to buy.

I am just saying that you are the only company that I have purchased a vape from that did not include a battery. These other companies must have been in the same situation and they did it.

Some of your clients...like myself are ill. The less we need to worry about the better. It seems you are worried about your retailers...anyway, I ordered batteries. My love affair with the Angus has not started yet.

Congratulations on your new product. Much luck with it...and wishing you all the best.

 

[YLLVAPE OFFICAL]

So they brought it to our attention. What should they have done? Be quiet about it?

cuz I do not check FC a lot, sometimes i am not able to check every post on angus thread. i had the plan to take the internal picture since last week, but not get time. i 100% understand the concerns from you guys. Criticism is more what i need for the process of learning better and improve. As you know,YLLVAPE is a Chinese manufacturer, no access to any herb here. ( Good envious of your). this is why I focus more on posts on FC, this is the great platform for me, as a Chinese maker to know what you guys prefer, and what kind of good product would be like. This is all Chinese vaporizers manufacturers are supposed to do. FC is a great place for you to share and discuss, also a great place for me to gather useful information. I am not trying to be quiet, but would like to talk more. mike@yllvape.com. or yllvape Instagram are better for me if anyone has any question or concern. haha. Angus is a new product in the market, and has some flaws for sure. but improving in learning is good, isn't?

 

[RedZep]

cuz I do not check FC a lot, sometimes i am not able to check every post on angus thread. i had the plan to take the internal picture since last week, but not get time. i 100% understand the concerns from you guys. Criticism is more what i need for the process of learning better and improve. As you know,YLLVAPE is a Chinese manufacturer, no access to any herb here. ( Good envious of your). this is why I focus more on posts on FC, this is the great platform for me, as a Chinese maker to know what you guys prefer, and what kind of good product would be like. This is all Chinese vaporizers manufacturers are supposed to do. FC is a great place for you to share and discuss, also a great place for me to gather useful information. I am not trying to be quiet, but would like to talk more. mike@yllvape.com. or yllvape Instagram are better for me if anyone has any question or concern. haha. Angus is a new product in the market, and has some flaws for sure. but improving in learning is good, isn't?

Thanks for your time and honesty.

 

[Dr. G]

Healthy Vaping is the concern here regardless where you are from. We should only settle for the highest standards. Also, I do not think we should just settle for word of mouth...I appreciate the investigation of any vape. They should be investigated up the ass. This is a health hazzard if you don't. So, to all manufacturers...once you start putting your product out there it will be micro looked at. The vape community is a concerned community.

 

[Grover]

this is our concern for the international shipping policy. ecig goods get impounded by the customs sometimes. I need to be responsible for my retailers, their order gets stuck at the custom, which would be big loss for both of us. Also the ecig products with replaceable battery (not built in battery) get limitations on the flights, it will also affect the shipping from retailers to the customers. and you can see there are many products including replaceable batteries. They might already have many batteries at home. 18650 batteries are pretty conventional, and easy to buy it. also for YLLVAPE future products, they will not have batteries included as well.

International shipping is already complicated enough without giving third parties (customs, airline, etc.) more excuses for delaying shipments. If the batteries WERE included, the cost of those plus additional shipping expense for the extra weight would cause the retail price of the product to rise accordingly.

 

[Dr. G]

Of course it would raise the price. But, when you have to buy the batteries from another place...you are still buying the battery and shipping costs are added. So...we are paying the same...and inconvenienced. It's like buying a car and not getting an engine.

 

[PossumMD]

Of course it would raise the price. But, when you have to buy the batteries from another place...you are still buying the battery and shipping costs are added. So...we are paying the same...and inconvenienced. It's like buying a car and not getting an engine.

It's more like not getting fuel, the bulb would be the engine in this case. As it is, the whole "batteries not included" is a meme as old as batteries themselves...

 

[RAG]

3M9495-300LSE

Big credit to the manufacuter @YLLVAPE OFFICAL for disclosing these details, my respect for this brand instantly got raised. Checking the details on 3M9495-300LSE and this is what I found (and this can be verified by anyone that can use google)
Relative High Temperature
Operating Ranges:
Long Term (days, weeks) 200°F (93°C)
Short Term (minutes, hours) 300°F (149°C)
Relative Solvent Resistance: Very Good

How hot does it get inside the chamber I wonder tbh, we are drawing in vapor that 220c as a max, what temperature is the vapour once i reaches the cu? anyone have thermal camera and could check?

 

[Grover]

cuz I do not check FC a lot, sometimes i am not able to check every post on angus thread. i had the plan to take the internal picture since last week, but not get time. i 100% understand the concerns from you guys. Criticism is more what i need for the process of learning better and improve. As you know,YLLVAPE is a Chinese manufacturer, no access to any herb here. ( Good envious of your). this is why I focus more on posts on FC, this is the great platform for me, as a Chinese maker to know what you guys prefer, and what kind of good product would be like. This is all Chinese vaporizers manufacturers are supposed to do. FC is a great place for you to share and discuss, also a great place for me to gather useful information. I am not trying to be quiet, but would like to talk more. mike@yllvape.com. or yllvape Instagram are better for me if anyone has any question or concern. haha. Angus is a new product in the market, and has some flaws for sure. but improving in learning is good, isn't?

Of course it would raise the price. But, when you have to buy the batteries from another place...you are still buying the battery and shipping costs are added. So...we are paying the same...and inconvenienced. It's like buying a car and not getting an engine.

I don't mean to sound dismissive of your concern: I guess I just don't recognize the same level of inconvenience as you; everybody will gauge this in terms of how it impacts their personal circumstances. Most of my customers just order a pair (ot two) of P28A's when they order their Angus...everything is delivered to them at once that way, car and engine.

 

[Zuhdj]

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Big credit to the manufacuter @YLLVAPE OFFICAL for disclosing these details, my respect for this brand instantly got raised. Checking the details on 3M9495-300LSE and this is what I found (and this can be verified by anyone that can use google)
Relative High Temperature
Operating Ranges:
Long Term (days, weeks) 200°F (93°C)
Short Term (minutes, hours) 300°F (149°C)
Relative Solvent Resistance: Very Good

How hot does it get inside the chamber I wonder tbh, we are drawing in vapor that 220c as a max, what temperature is the vapour once i reaches the cu? anyone have thermal camera and could check?

When a solid is at around 140f-150f it is too hot to hold a finger on for any amount of time (it's how I measure temp when steaming milk for espresso). The cooling unit feels warm after 3 bowls. I'd be surprised if it gets over 120f but this is no scientific analysis. Just observations and prior knowledge.

Side note, you don't need to fill the chamber. It'll work even with a third of it filled


Edit: the magnets were body temp after my three consecutive bowls

 

[666Honeybadger]

It's more like not getting fuel, the bulb would be the engine in this case. As it is, the whole "batteries not included" is a meme as old as batteries themselves...

While i agree with this statement, it's one of those truths that will shuffle somewhat thru time... I mean: once electric cars become standard, 'batteries included' should become the norm...

 

[Dr. G]

It's more like not getting fuel, the bulb would be the engine in this case. As it is, the whole "batteries not included" is a meme as old as batteries themselves...

Touché

I love how my battery comment got so much attention...lol

 

[seedy53]

I don't mean to sound dismissive of your concern: I guess I just don't recognize the same level of inconvenience as you; everybody will gauge this in terms of how it impacts their personal circumstances. Most of my customers just order a pair (ot two) of P28A's when they order their Angus...everything is delivered to them at once that way, car and engine.

new bad-ass 18650 battery is out now, p28B 40amp

 

[Dr. G]

I don't mean to sound dismissive of your concern: I guess I just don't recognize the same level of inconvenience as you; everybody will gauge this in terms of how it impacts their personal circumstances. Most of my customers just order a pair (ot two) of P28A's when they order their Angus...everything is delivered to them at once that way, car and engine.

I will take note. Good advice. Much appreciated since I am new to this experience...cheers.

 

[1800]

Thank you for the reply...I know batteries are easy to buy.

I am just saying that you are the only company that I have purchased a vape from that did not include a battery. These other companies must have been in the same situation and they did it.

Some of your clients...like myself are ill. The less we need to worry about the better. It seems you are worried about your retailers...anyway, I ordered batteries. My love affair with the Angus has not started yet.

Congratulations on your new product. Much luck with it...and wishing you all the best.

I can't speak for vapes but no-battery-included is becoming quite a standard practice with electronic products within the EU.

 

[Dr. G]

I can't speak for vapes but no-battery-included is becoming quite a standard practice with electronic products within the EU.

Good to know because I have purchased all of my vapes...lots of them including the TM1 and 2 and they all included batteries...so, my experience again. Learning everyday.

 

[RedZep]

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When a solid is at around 140f-150f it is too hot to hold a finger on for any amount of time (it's how I measure temp when steaming milk for espresso). The cooling unit feels warm after 3 bowls. I'd be surprised if it gets over 120f but this is no scientific analysis. Just observations and prior knowledge.

Side note, you don't need to fill the chamber. It'll work even with a third of it filled


Edit: the magnets were body temp after my three consecutive bowls

But that is measuring against the thermal properties of the medical grade plastic which has extremely low thermal capacity.

This says nothing about what heat pressure the sticker is coming under.

 

[Texus]

Xenophobia? You honestly believe our safety concerns are subliminally due to hatred for the Chinese race? You ought to be on stage with that kind of mastery of the theatrically absurd.

Maybe, maybe not. But trying to understand why YLL is being held to this degree of scrutiny, distrust and accusations. Thus the question mark. This is far beyond anything I have ever seen for a vape here and it strikes me as rude and distrustful of this manufacturer. And yes I have followed Angus & TM threads.

Why is YLL specifically being subjected to this site? What brand 3M tape? The "counterfeit" CE...

Or maybe the Angus just attracted the paranoid FC users so distrustful and disrespectful of manufacturers that they treat YLL this way, and we can expect them to give the same treatment to the next hot & exciting US-made vape.

EDIT: case in point as I was typing this:

But that is measuring against the thermal properties of the medical grade plastic which has extremely low thermal capacity.

This says nothing about what heat pressure the sticker is coming under.

 

[RedZep]

Maybe, maybe not. But trying to understand why YLL is being held to this degree of scrutiny, distrust and accusations. Thus the question mark. This is far beyond anything I have ever seen for a vape here and it strikes me as rude and distrustful of this manufacturer. And yes I have followed Angus & TM threads.

Why is YLL specifically being subjected to this site? What brand 3M tape? The "counterfeit" CE...

Or maybe the Angus just attracted the paranoid FC users so distrustful and disrespectful of manufacturers that they treat YLL this way, and we can expect them to give the same treatment to the next hot & exciting US-made vape.

I've seen this for every vape I've researched on FB. This one seems more protracted, but that's simply because not all safety concerns had been tackled yet.

John the Anvil creator is a white Canadian. He received the same grilling about safety concerns, then received grilling about how he was handling communications, then he received grilling about how he publicly threw shade at Dynavap. All of it was warranted.

People don't care about race here, they care about their vapes being safe.

Btw had no idea Angus creator was Chinese. Thought China was just the manufacturing locale.

 

[Grass Yes]

I guess everyone wants this.

https://imgur.com/kWQcHTH

This is a great start, but I am wondering specifically about the PCB, thermosensor, wires and other electronics. Can you please include these in your photo? Separate photos of those is fine.

I appreciate your help with this. I assume we will get other members opening theirs too as this is sure to be a popular new vape. Having this honest info straight from the maker is always a great sign.