Discontinued Splinter Z by RBT

[GoldenBud]

I tried my DNA mod again last night and actually combusted. I’ve never combusted in wattage mode. And I had it set low, at 330F. Wattage mode makes intuitive sense to me. TC baffles me.

Retry it at 35W-40W, i assume u started at 40w?

 

[cybrguy]

I have never combusted with my DNA mod, and if that is happening to you your setting must be messed up. What do you have your coil resistance set at? I think that is the setting most likely to be off. My Z is set to .402
My wattage is set at 60 watts, but that is only the highest it can go, not what it uses generally. I just took an 8 second pull at 375° and it used about 41 watts (or so it reported).

 

[Monk Debate]

I have never combusted with my DNA mod, and if that is happening to you your setting must be messed up. What do you have your coil resistance set at? I think that is the setting most likely to be off. My Z is set to .402
My wattage is set at 60 watts, but that is only the highest it can go, not what it uses generally. I just took an 8 second pull at 375° and it used about 41 watts (or so it reported).

Ugh, I’m an idiot. I had been using the Z on another mod previously so the cold ohms reading would have been completely off. Just goes to show, don’t swap your mods while you’re high. I’ll try it again tonight now that it’s cold.

Starting from cold this time, I got really excellent results from my DNA mod in TC mode. I set the max watts to 45 and ran one bowl with the XL8R Jr and another through water, temps ranging from 330 to 405. Got plenty of excellent vapor at the lowest temps and the water hits were just ridiculously tasty and voluminous.

 

[CL52613]

I have the Splinter Z and a Lost Vape Paranormal DNA250C box mod. I used them for about 5 months and have never used anything but wattage mode. I realize having a such a sophisticated mod just to run in wattage mode is probably overkill, but I did not realize at the time I bought how frigging complicated or confusing the TC mode can be, and had no luck with downloading profiles as suggested here. Besides which, I am totally satisfied with the results I get from the Z and Paranormal combination. As for combustion, I believe that is a result of riding the fire button too long, drawing too slow, or both. I can combustion at 38 watts, so unless you are using TC mode, I believe you still have to do some regulating with fire button and draw speed, though not nearly as much as with a Milaana. In fact when I received my Milaana2 back from a repair, I was charring my loads after the second draw because of the unregulated nature of the beast. As for the Splinter Z, the coil resistance is .43 and the average wattage range is 37-39; when using a rimmed top hat screen the wattage is 38-40. I have never gone higher than 40 watts since it requires more attention to keep from charring the load. So good luck to all and a big shout out to Ryan; in my humble opinion the Splinter Z is about as good as a vaporizer can get.

 

[Radiohead]

I have the Splinter Z and a Lost Vape Paranormal DNA250C box mod. I used them for about 5 months and have never used anything but wattage mode. I realize having a such a sophisticated mod just to run in wattage mode is probably overkill, but I did not realize at the time I bought how frigging complicated or confusing the TC mode can be, and had no luck with downloading profiles as suggested here. Besides which, I am totally satisfied with the results I get from the Z and Paranormal combination. As for combustion, I believe that is a result of riding the fire button too long, drawing too slow, or both. I can combustion at 38 watts, so unless you are using TC mode, I believe you still have to do some regulating with fire button and draw speed, though not nearly as much as with a Milaana. In fact when I received my Milaana2 back from a repair, I was charring my loads after the second draw because of the unregulated nature of the beast. As for the Splinter Z, the coil resistance is .43 and the average wattage range is 37-39; when using a rimmed top hat screen the wattage is 38-40. I have never gone higher than 40 watts since it requires more attention to keep from charring the load. So good luck to all and a big shout out to Ryan; in my humble opinion the Splinter Z is about as good as a vaporizer can get.

I used my Splinter Z in wattage mode for 2 weeks in 34-36W and it worked fine, after a while you learn how much to draw, when to fire, how long to fire etc..

but after using TCR mode for 2-3 days now, i do think it's a bit better. i never combust with TCR but again, the fact that we don't have the ideal setting given by RBT is a problem.

 

[bossman]

Ugh, I’m an idiot. I had been using the Z on another mod previously so the cold ohms reading would have been completely off. Just goes to show, don’t swap your mods while you’re high. I’ll try it again tonight now that it’s cold.

Starting from cold this time, I got really excellent results from my DNA mod in TC mode. I set the max watts to 45 and ran one bowl with the XL8R Jr and another through water, temps ranging from 330 to 405. Got plenty of excellent vapor at the lowest temps and the water hits were just ridiculously tasty and voluminous.

That's good news about the mix up though.

The one thing I haven't learned to do well with my Splinters is using them through my D020-d or D020.

 

[cybrguy]

The one thing I haven't learned to do well with my Splinters is using them through my D020-d or D020.

Is that for lack of a good adapter or what? Most of my use at home is through water and often through the D020.

 

[bossman]

Is that for lack of a good adapter or what? Most of my use at home is through water and often through the D020.

I'm having better luck now. I hadn't been able to milk them up consistently and for now maybe I need to only do higher wattage while tweaking the more minor variables.

I have my Z on that mod too as you know and it wasn't until I stepped it up to 38-39W that I got the kind of hit I wanted.

I still feel like there's some air getting in under the basket rim or in the glass joint because I can bubble both of them with the Tubo X adapter I use while covering the screen with my finger.

Update: yeah, I just tried my small OmniVong on the D020-d with a 14 to 18 adapter and it was harder to chug and more air tight than that tubo wpa I'm using with the Z. Maybe I should find a 19/19 one so I can use my V1 and V2 also.

 

[cybrguy]

My wattage is set at 60 watts, but that is only the highest it can go, not what it uses generally. I just took an 8 second pull at 375° and it used about 41 watts (or so it reported).

Just as an illustration of how the DNA chip behaves differently based on conditions, I just took a 10 sec hit at 385° on my already warm Z and it reported using 28.4 watts. Still set at 60w.

I have my Z on that mod too as you know and it wasn't until I stepped it up to 38-39W that I got the kind of hit I wanted.

Do you mean in wattage mode? In TC mode it shouldn't really matter what the wattage is set at as long as it is high enough, it determines how much power it needs to get to the temp you have set. Or it should...
I am using Herbie's SpZ 19/22 profile with my resistance locked on that mod and it is working well, tho it does take some preheating.

I still feel like there's some air getting in under the basket rim or in the glass joint because I can bubble both of them with the Tubo X adapter I use while covering the screen with my finger.

If I put an empty stem in the Z and suck on it while holding my fingers on the 2 air holes I can get no air, so I have no leaks for sure.

 

[Stoned Llama]

So my splinter and releaux 3 arrived and I can't get this thing to work. Any good quick guide?

 

[Mangu]

So my splinter and releaux 3 arrived and I can't get this thing to work. Any good quick guide?

Not sure what you mean by can’t get it to work? Like it doesn’t power up? Or doesn’t heat?

All you need to do is set the mod to 36-38 watts. Pack the stem with your herb and lightly tamp it down; not too tight, not completely loose.

Then slip the stem into the heater (I like to do this while holding the mod upside down to avoid the loose material falling out). Once youve got your Splinter locked and loaded click the fire button and hold that down for about 3 seconds (to preheat) and release it. Then hold the button down again as you slowly draw the air from your stem, practice speeding up your draw slowly. After about 8-10 seconds of drawing the vapor you should be blowing out a decent size cloud. Let me know if this tip works, if not I’m sure some one else can get you going.

Ps: Try to relax and enjoy the experience when using your splinter. Sometimes I get a little too antsy and will draw the air too fast to yield any good vapor or generally rush the session and it’s just not as enjoyable.

 

[Penny Wise]

Sneaky Pete said using a "low and slow" draw really helps with the Splinter, @Stoned Llama. I'm not sure if that applies to the Z as well but I'd assume so.

My Z (and the XL8R stem) will be here today!!!! I've already got the TUBO firmware my VTC Mini and all of the custom settings dialed in as dictated by a buddy who has a Splinter V1 or V2 (modified for the Z, of course). You guys have no idea how enthused I am right now. (Well, you probably do, lol!) I've been using a DynaVap M for about 8 months and it's a fine, fine piece of hardware but I'm growing dissatisfied with the amount of effort it takes to get a proper medicinal buzz going when I'm in a lot of pain. I can't wait to just fire up my mod and be medicated in moments with very little effort.

Thanks for all the info in this thread, guys and gals! I've learned lots and I feel really confident going in on this Z. I'm expecting it to be a real game-changer for me.

 

[bossman]

Do you mean in wattage mode?

Yeah I was using wattage.

So my splinter and releaux 3 arrived and I can't get this thing to work. Any good quick guide?

http://fuckcombustion.com/resources/splinter-tubomyevic-quick-start-guide.27/

 

[cybrguy]

I've been using a DynaVap M for about 8 months and it's a fine, fine piece of hardware but I'm growing dissatisfied with the amount of effort it takes to get a proper medicinal buzz going when I'm in a lot of pain. I can't wait to just fire up my mod and be medicated in moments with very little effort.

Yeah, I love my vapcaps, that is for sure, but the open airflow of RBT products makes them my favorite vapes. I have found that since getting my Splinter and my SplinterZ they take up the majority of my home use. I can't remember when I even used my Zion last as the ease of use of the SP and the Z and their smaller size brings them out first. Once out nothing needs to follow. I thought using a mod would be annoying, but I have pretty easily gotten used to it.

 

[bossman]

Yeah, I love my vapcaps, that is for sure, but the open airflow of RBT products makes them my favorite vapes. I have found that since getting my Splinter and my SplinterZ they take up the majority of my home use. I can't remember when I even used my Zion last as the ease of use of the SP and the Z and their smaller size brings them out first. Once out nothing needs to follow. I thought using a mod would be annoying, but I have pretty easily gotten used to it.

It's off topic but I recommend an induction heater for your vapcaps at home. Improves the ritual and makes the hits more consistent for me.

And I'm in the same boat reaching for my Splinters more than all my other vapes combined. The flavor, speed, and control are all unparalleled.

 

[cybrguy]

Yep, I agree. Have had a JarHead for going on 2 years now. Love it.

In truth even tho my Splinters are my favorites, I like mixing it up. I also use my Lotus, and between these 3 families of vapes I never get bored with using only one method.

 

[Monk Debate]

I still like to fire up the Dynavap every few days, but the Z is a daily driver.

One thing I appreciate about the DV is that I can easily vape unground herb in it and get excellent extraction and flavor. Does anyone do this with the Splinters? I always grind my herb for the Z.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I still like to fire up the Dynavap every few days, but the Z is a daily driver.

One thing I appreciate about the DV is that I can easily vape unground herb in it and get excellent extraction and flavor. Does anyone do this with the Splinters? I always grind my herb for the Z.

It is possible, but I find better results ground here and in my VapCap (which I use rarely, as a water piece, its a glass OG). I had the best results with unground herb in DaisyBricks and Fireflies I think.

 

[cybrguy]

Yeah, in my own experience the RBT vapes prefer the screen fully covered and nugs usually leave room for air to pass by. If packed with unground it would be OK, but a nug probably not so much.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Yeah it can work, but you would want to find a nug the perfect size ideally...

 

[Monk Debate]

I might try just tearing up a nug instead of loading it in whole, but not grinding it.

 

[Penny Wise]

Well, guys and gals, colour me impressed. This thing rips. I can't believe the quality of the vape off this thing. I'm still trying to get my draw technique down, but even my husband likes using this and he can't stand anything that's remotely "fiddly".

However, I've got some sad news to report; I just noticed there's a crack in the glass! It doesn't seem to be affecting the vape at all as of yet but I don't know where to go from here to get a replacement. I've stopped using it as of now (which I'm very sad about) and I'm gonna get in touch with the guys I bought it from here in Canada, but do you guys think RBT would be able to do anything about this?

 

[Summer]

@Penny Wise, as you just got it a day or 2 ago, there's a good possibility that the crack was there when you received it. I'd contact the seller & tell them you just received it & noticed the crack.

 

[sickmanfraud]

@Penny Wise, as you just got it a day or 2 ago, there's a good possibility that the crack was there when you received it. I'd contact the seller & tell them you just received it & noticed the crack.

Either way, glass is covered for 30 days minimum.

 

[Stonedbadger]

Well my interest has won over so I now have a splinter z and a Wismec Reuleaux RX GEN3 Mod on order.

What advice would you give to setup this combo?