Discontinued Splinter Z by RBT

[Hogni]

There will come more, perhaps even more exciting woods for sure.

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

Not only did they go fast, I don't think Ryan listed that many. I'm wanted a light wood, but there only was maple -- not my fav. When I heard there was a discount code I was gonna settle for it, but 12 hours later they were gone. I'm pretty sure Ryan said in his stream that there were only a few maples made and that he's not gonna use maple again. Unfortunately, I didn't hear why as the stream kept freezing. I wanted to get one so bad that I was gonna further settle for Purple Heart & that too was OOS. I just dislike brown & red woods. So, I'm out of luck until he produces more which I don't know it's gonna be that soon as he said that he had to get Splinter & Milaana stock out to retailers in Canada, & EDU(?) I think -- AFTER he produces a shitload of glass stem. So sadly for me if may be a while.

I ended up getting one of the birdeye maple_Z. Before they where gone. Wanted something in a lighter wood for the Z. Was going hold off but did that years ago on the zoin. Didn't want miss out on this one by doing the same.


Excited to finally try the zoin heater. Hopefully as good as the hype either way I couldn't resist this one.

 

[Summer]

@little maggie, too reddish brown & too dark. I have a splinter. Yes, the Splinter listed US are the regular Splinters, but the OG Splinters have China glass & are 19/22. The US Splinter are currently the 19/19mm German Schlott(?) glass. I sent Ryan the following pics of some lighter exotic woods that I was taken with which have the same density of the woods he's been using. And I believe I also suggested Canary & Oak (a more neutral color).

Elm Burls

Figured & Burl Wych Elm

Spalted Maple Burl

@HerbieVonVapster, there's no doubt in my mind that the Splinter Z will be a staple in his line. It's not a $400 Zion which had a limited market.

 

[Hogni]

Great, Herbie! So we can expect some optimized settings for the Z in different SW too in the next times?

EDIT: No pics today?

 

[little maggie]

@little maggie, too reddish brown & too dark. I have a splinter. Yes, the Splinter listed US are the regular Splinters, but the OG Splinters have China glass & are 19/22. The US Splinter are currently the 19/19mm German Schlott(?) glass. I sent Ryan the following pics of some lighter exotic woods that I was taken with which have the same density of the woods he's been using. And I believe I also suggested Canary & Oak (a more neutral color).

Elm Burls

Figured & Burl Wych Elm

Spalted Maple Burl

@HerbieVonVapster, there's no doubt in my mind that the Splinter Z will be a staple in his line. It's not a $400 Zion which had a limited market.

I understand about the wood now but not about the US and OG. What would the first batches when released to the public be?

 

[analytika]

Excuse me @analytika, please stop being your usual naysayer & debbie downer. It's tiresome & played out. My post was in reply to your post linking 1 of the available 2 wood-type Zs left. I mentioned that what he listed went fast as only the brown & red woods are still available which I don't care for; hence I didn't order at this time. The other woods were gone in 1 day, so yeah, they went fast, albeit, that Ryan only posted a limited amount in this 1st offering. No one here is that stupid as not to check out the website if they are interested in purchasing.

Had you watched Ryan's stream yesterday, you'd have no doubt that his business is gonna wind up being successful. He's in the process of setting up material procurement, he's got his manufacturing supply chain set up, he's expanding his distribution & he's in the process stocking the website & various retailers with inventory. Ryan makes a quality product so he's gonna be fine.

I would appreciate you not suggesting I failed to read a post i responded to, or using offensive characterizations like "Debbie Downer".

In fact I've been accused of being too effusive about RBT. Don't be ridiculous.

Frankly i don't think the folks here care about your taste in shades of wood. Bottom line is you didn't even buy the product.

Stating a product is no longer available when it is, that's a pretty big faux paux affecting a struggling artisan. Some criticism is fair. Perhaps apologetic is a better state of mind than offensive wordplay. Go high!

 

[Summer]

@analytika, I don't understand your logic so let's just agree to disagree. Have a good weekend.

@little maggie, we're talking the Splinter, not the Z here. The original Splinter that was released, the one I have, is 19/22mm China glass, less dense mica, a copper 510 pin/screw, no RBT logo on the bottom of the 510 heater. The ones Ryan is currently selling domestically in the US have the 19/19mm German glass, the mica is now denser, the 510 pin is now brass w/ the logo on the RBT logo on the bottom of the 510 adapter & I believe the wood is cut thicker. I believe that the inventory that Vapefiend received have all these improved attributes. Eventually Ryan's gonna switch over to Chinese manufactured parts while still doing the assembly in house until he can be assured of mfr'ing quality & then the Splinter will be completely assembled in China for international sales while he continues to assemble the US Splinters here. Who know, maybe eventually he'll even have the Splinter US assembled in China. We'll see. Except for having 19/22mm glass, the Splinter Z has all these improved attributes.

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

Does anyone know why RBT refuses to ship internationally?

 

[Cheesequake]

Does anyone know why RBT refuses to ship internationally?

Probably more trouble than it's worth for him.

 

[oddjobold]

Another vape from RBT? Was there a coupon I missed? I have 0 self control. I wish there was a vape library where I could rent a vape for a couple of months and then try another. I don't have any friends that vape so I have way too many for 1 person. My efforts to help them stop combustion have failed. (I ordered purple)

There is a library. Its called the classifieds. I have tried loads of vapes. Selling and swapping is the way forward. At the moment i have 4 vapes which is the most i have ever had at once.

Dont think i will be able to resist a splinterz either!

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

Probably more trouble than it's worth for him.

But why? Epic Vapes, Vapwood, Morwood, Dynavap, Allens Hi, Woodscents ... I could go on. The sales are worth the trouble for these guys. RBT wrote a public message complaining about retailers making things hard. I think he needs to get with the times and realize he has an eager international market if he wants it. If he doesnt want it then that is strange imo. I would have already purchased a Z if I could. I fucking love my 2018 Milaana. WTF RBT? Take my fucking cash!

 

[habitat-fc]

Well my VAS is back, this is definitely my next purchase. RBT is such a good designer, I hope Vapefiend gets these when I have money spare lol!

 

[little maggie]

There is a library. Its called the classifieds. I have tried loads of vapes. Selling and swapping is the way forward. At the moment i have 4 vapes which is the most i have ever had at once.

Dont think i will be able to resist a splinterz either!

I've given my rehomed vapes to Vitolo. It's the wood ones I can't seem to get rid of and keep buying. Even ones I never use like the lily and daisy. Selling seems like too much of a hassle.

 

[Lazy Lighting]

Totally agree. The wood Vapes are more like heirloom pieces. Don't think I'll ever get rid of any of my wood vapes.

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

Ok I received a email from Ryan asking if I wanted a 2 hole (standard flow) or 4 hole (high flow) model. Not really sure was leaning towards the high flow.

Before I email my reply back wanted check what others though.
Has there been any discussions, or does anyone have any ideal on the difference btw the standard and high flow on the Splinter_Z?

 

[Summer]

@HerbieVonVapster, this is all I know:

He said last night that he was sorting out who wanted the low airflow 2-hole vs. the highflow 4-hole this weekend so he could ship on Monday.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-splinter-by-rbt.23476/page-91#post-1299876

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-splinter-by-rbt.23476/page-92#post-1300059

 

[Bdubbdiblets]

Yea I wasn't sure but he said the "high flow" was for "big rips" so.....

I said that one....

Not sure if that was right move though as I have a 2 hole splinter and it rips pretty hard...

I think I'll be high.....er happy either way!!

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

Sounds like 2 holes is the more popular option. But at same time you can just block off the extra holes?
Is it's the difference that people don't want see or use plugs?

Trying to decide if missing any other benefits by going with a 2 hole vs 4 holes with 2 holes blocked?

I haven't heard much on the difference so trying make up my mind see if overlooked anything.

Yea I wasn't sure but he said the "high flow" was for "big rips" so.....

I said that one....

Not sure if that was right move though as I have a 2 hole splinter and it rips pretty hard...

I think I'll be high.....er happy either way!!

I don't use it thru water but at same time I find the splinter the most restrictive draw of my 510 devices.

Plus if I got the 2 hole there be the what if thought. Where with 4 holes worse case is I keep 2 blocked.

High flow sounding like the better option for me.

I also respect @summers responses and you seem be set on the 2 hole over 4 in the link. Sounds like from response you don't think you use it so why have it? Guess thinking it be better to have and not use than not have it at all? Was there other reason you picked 2 over 4?

Seems like the airflow would also be better entering from 4 points over 2?

 

[Hackerman]

Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

In my early days, that applied to a gun but it might also apply here. LOL

 

[Summer]

@Other Side & @London Vaper, Ryan sent an email to those who purchased the Z asking them if they want the 2 or 4 hole ones. Can you give us some feedback on how the 4-hole, high airflow is working for you & how it's performing with & without water (I know, LV, you don't use it through water) & what wattage you're running at in each (w/ & w/o water)? Thanks!

*I don't know if we will get a reply from LV as he hasn't logged-in since 9/1.

@HerbieVonVapster, you can't go by me. I can only tell you my usage scenario. I've been a 46-year smoker so although I don't have COPD, my lungs are pretty well compromised so I can't do big rips. If I did, I would cough my lungs out from the irritation. My draws are 10 - 15 sec. With the Ghost, because the vapor is so smooth I go 12 - 15 seconds; with the Splinter 10 - 12 sec. Splinter w/o water 32 - 36W; through water around 38W. And I'm also a microdoser so 4 hits on the Splinter & I'm good for 1-1/2 - 2 hours. So for me, if the 2-hole Splinter works great for me & the Z just has a larger heater, I see no reason I would need add'l. air intake.

I am going to send an email to Ryan asking the upper limit wattage for the 4-hole Splinter & the 2 & 4-hole Z; if there's even a difference between the 2 & 4 hole. The only thing I know for sure is that Ryan said the 2-hole Splinter is rated for 50W max with a 30-sec. engagement/fire/draw. I don't know if those using the Splinter are using cruise mode &, if so, how long it's engaged for.

 

[Summer]

Listen everyone, Ryan just put up published a IG stream. I tuned in late, but it was chock full of informative stuff specifically in regards to glass stems so I encourage you to watch it. I have to watch it again for the 1st 1/2 that I missed.

Now, I'm confused. Just went to watch it & he took it down. ??? Anyway, I'll keep checking.

 

[AJS]

Listen everyone

Feel like I'm about to be reprimanded!
_______

I showed my friend the Splinter Z today, I think it was his second time using it, but it's one of the few vapes where he feels like it provides a satisfied rip. It's hard to please him after he's been spoiled with the LSV connected to water.

The Milaana never quite did it for him, he always liked it but it wasn't something he'd want to reach for. My OG splinter was closer...but never quite there for him. My Oak Splinter with perfect cruise mode gave him the rips he was looking for, and the Splinter Z just pushed it to another level. Used it dry with the xl8r stem at 31W...large and in charge flavorful rips. He pointed to the stem like DAMN! look at that vapor coming through!

Seriously loving this thing, fucking beast of a hard hitter, not looking for anything to top it.

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

Thanks @Summer for helping me decided that i'm going go ahead get the 4 holes.
Figure the iheat has 3 large holes and stempod also has 2 really large adjustable intakes. Either of those suffer or get weaker hits due to having a less restrictions pathway. See no reason why splinter_Z would be different.


I also enjoy testing out this new devices rather have the option to at least try 4 holes. I can always just plug the extra intakes.

 

[money2]

@AJS does yours have two holes or four?

 

[little maggie]

I chose the I don't care option. Which means I'll get whichever one Ryan has the most of. I don't necessarily want big rips but as long as the 4 hole one can be blocked it will be fine.