It's all about the amount of vapor you intake. Some models give a vapor with higher vapor to air ratios, thus getting you fucked up sooner. In the end, however, they will all get you just as whacked as long as you keep using them til you have gotten all the vapor you want.Raf007 said:Hi there,
the more I read the more i have questions here.
I don't discuss the facts, i truely believe you guys, but how do you explain why some vapos get you higher then others.
Like it seems that you get more high with your SSV than the Cano. Any ideas why ?
I know that I really don't get as high with my Iolite than with the Cano, but i tink it's just because the temp is not high enough. Am i wrong here ?
How do you feel it with your extreme? I seem to get fucked up pretty good off of a few hits.stickstones said:It's all about the amount of vapor you intake. Some models give a vapor with higher vapor to air ratios, thus getting you fucked up sooner. In the end, however, they will all get you just as whacked as long as you keep using them til you have gotten all the vapor you want.Raf007 said:Hi there,
the more I read the more i have questions here.
I don't discuss the facts, i truely believe you guys, but how do you explain why some vapos get you higher then others.
Like it seems that you get more high with your SSV than the Cano. Any ideas why ?
I know that I really don't get as high with my Iolite than with the Cano, but i tink it's just because the temp is not high enough. Am i wrong here ?
the ssv packs a punch and gets me there off one bowl. the pd gets me there, too, just takes longer and more bowls.
Around the time they first came out, I picked one up. I used it about 10 times and went back to my normal ssv wands.Frickr said:has anyone tried the fatty wands yet?? i seen them on the ssv sight, and they looked yummy! 5x the amount of room in the bowl as a standard wand! that just sounds like you wont be going anywhere for a while to me! anyone have any experiences with this yet?
I'm not sure what other experiences people have had with their's, but mine came in and i was really surprised at just how big it is. IMO they should make something a little more in between. you just have to put ALOT in the bowl and turn the temp all the way up for it to work, and then i still don't feel like i get the heat all the way to the bottom.Frickr said:has anyone tried the fatty wands yet?? i seen them on the ssv sight, and they looked yummy! 5x the amount of room in the bowl as a standard wand! that just sounds like you wont be going anywhere for a while to me! anyone have any experiences with this yet?
You should absolutely NOT have to max out the temp for the Fatty bowl. 7th Floor vapes are designed to heat up way past combustion point. You have to draw pretty hard on a Surfer at the higher temp settings (not even close to max) to avoid overcooking. I do agree that the 5 x capacity on these fatty wands is probably overkill.willjed said:you just have to put ALOT in the bowl and turn the temp all the way up for it to work
would you agree that since each piece is hand blown that there might be some variance in performance? if i had mine turned all the way up and was drawing slow (like normal) and there was no combustion then does that mean my SSV is not performing right, or that maybe our wands are different?max said:You should absolutely NOT have to max out the temp for the Fatty bowl. .
Even with a standard wand, you should expect to have to stir the bowl up a couple of times. The more herb you load, the more you'll need to stir to make sure it all gets exposed. The standard SSV (non hands free) has a narrow airstream going into the wand. Makes for some rich hits, but the hot air isn't going to cover the whole surface of the herb, or reach the bottom if a lot is loaded. If you continue to have problems, give the company a call (don't email). They have a 30 day money back guarantee, as well as the 3 yr. warranty.i still don't feel like i get the heat all the way to the bottom.
I found this to be true with the ground glass wand and the hits are huge. The hole in the heater cover is the size of the screen. I am going try the regular wand, where the hole in the heater cover is much smaller.the electrician said:In my experience, the closer the match of bowl diameter to the diameter of the heating cover hole the more massive your hits, and well rounded heating is. for maximum efficiency i guess you should make them both small, that is i guess the smaller wand
this was kind of a misspeak. what i was meaning is that i guess the wand is so deep that it's hard to get the stuff on the bottom to come up to where it can be exposed to the heating element. i never seem to use all the herb, as efficiently, as with the original wand.i still don't feel like i get the heat all the way to the bottom.
i totally understand the stir method and am quite thorough with my stirrage, kind sir. i usually keep stirring the original wand until it's all almost dark brown/roasty looking. i just don't think i ever get the herb to that point with the fatty wand, plus you have to put probably 2 grams in the thing to even get it close enough to the element(don't take this super literally, folks. i haven't weighed out how much it takes to fill it).Even with a standard wand, you should expect to have to stir the bowl up a couple of times.
sorry, can't help with the ice cooler, uncharted territory as of yet. i can give you some input on settings- from what i've read and seen from others, the consensus seems to be (and every SSV knob is slightly different) around 1:00 for light vapor and then 3:00 to MAYBE 4:00 for thicker vapor (what you get just before combustion). if you start to see your herb turning black, either turn the dial back or draw harder, either will lower the temp.BL4ZE said:Like I said i've had my SSV for about a year now and i've always set my dial to around 1 o-clock which seems to give me decent hits.