Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless
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mc
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I winterize too but it was dark, I may have washed it too long. I HATE edibles so I never make coconut oil. I just say it's an options for others.
buckhakeesah
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Hey guys, I'm considering investing in a rosin press kit. Do you foresee the costs of these kits coming down even further over time with new innovations coming out from new competitors? I'm not in a huge rush to buy but know I will want to invest in one sooner or later. What better time to buy than now right?
Have you guys noticed a trend in prices tumbling for the smaller kits geared towards at home users. I plan on a 3X5 or 3X7 plate for my personal needs. I'm very new to squishing scene and only have experience with my lady's hair iron. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks
Have you guys noticed a trend in prices tumbling for the smaller kits geared towards at home users. I plan on a 3X5 or 3X7 plate for my personal needs. I'm very new to squishing scene and only have experience with my lady's hair iron. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks
mc
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in my opinion the future is round plates and bottle tech. You want the plates just over the size of the squished puck, not the retracted size when you release pressure. It's normally a few millimeters difference. This seems to be the easiest way to maximize PSI and escape area for the resin to flow out quickly and off the plates asap. Also, consistency.
oh I forgot to mention, I'm toying with the idea of having plates with a rim that you can secure precut silicon sheets aronud but with no paper under the press itself, and no silicon paper on top. The paperless press. Then the oil that runs off goes on the tiny amount of plate but mostly onto the paper around the rim of the plates. Then you can just spatula off the plate when you pick the puck off by hand when the ram comes up. Viola, paperless pressing. (TM)
oh I forgot to mention, I'm toying with the idea of having plates with a rim that you can secure precut silicon sheets aronud but with no paper under the press itself, and no silicon paper on top. The paperless press. Then the oil that runs off goes on the tiny amount of plate but mostly onto the paper around the rim of the plates. Then you can just spatula off the plate when you pick the puck off by hand when the ram comes up. Viola, paperless pressing. (TM)
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Hackerman
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I have been using round plates since about my 3rd prototype. I could never understand why square plates became the standard. Round plates with round pucks. And, like you said, the plates are just about a 1/4 to 1/2" larger than the finished, pressed puck.
Albeit, collection is a bit longer because your yield is all around the puck. No real directional ability. Although, I notice if the plates are just a little crooked, the rosin will all come out of one side
Albeit, collection is a bit longer because your yield is all around the puck. No real directional ability. Although, I notice if the plates are just a little crooked, the rosin will all come out of one side
mc
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Nice! I think a lot go for square because when you want to press hash it's easier to do directional flow with a flat front. And the fact that most people post videos pre-pressing way to hard making these super flat pucks with no easy out for the melted resin in the middle. Some of the "rosin" companies have pushed the tech backwards imo.
I never had any serious issues with rosin quality pressing round pucks on rectangle plates. Ideally we have plates to pair with our pucks's size/shape but you can use 3x3 plates with 2" round pucks without a lot of worry. My last squish on 3x3" plates with a 2" diameter puck, nearly 95% of the rosin ran off of the plates. My 3x7" plates aren't as good at getting the rosin off the plates. I've noticed my lower temp squishes (180-190F), even the rosin under the plates still stays fairly sappy and not brittle and shattery like what you see with even quick presses with the rosin under the plates. Also, I think squishing a thicker puck reduces the amount of radiant heat inbetween the parchment under the plates, another feather in the cap for vertical filter builds.
My step-son was over the past couple of nights. Brought some of his rec BHO up from a reputable spot in his hometown, he tried everything off the SiC halo at 580F and thought the rosin tasted very good, and while not as terpy as the BHO he has, it tasted more natural to him and he loved being able to smell the flowers that it came from for comparison sake afterwards. He did mention that his BHO was slightly more potent, however he didn't have the source flower potency to compare to, the rosin we were dabbing was from some 18% THC flowers. He did mention the rosin was smoother. This is all coming from mostly a smoker but it seems he's switching over to vapor lately 
Mondy
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I'll offer a wild guess (because that's what the Internet is for) that putting the ABP pucks in something like a Volcano that vaporizes with a large volume of hot air might be the best bet to effectively vape off the last of the THC. Somehow stuffing it in something like a heated ceramic bowl doesn't seem as effective for some reason? Hmmm... I don't have a Volcano, but I do have a MIG vapor Sub-Herb with a little ceramic bowl. Sounds like a fun science experiment for later this evening...
Mondy
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Here's a lil squish of 3.5g of a known yielder, scouts honor (GSC x TRUTH) on my dabpress 3x7" plates. The majority of the rosin was off the plates and was ultra sappy like molasses. I had to let it sit for about 5 minutes to collect it.
90u 2x2.5" filter, 160s press @ 190F (plate temp) ramping pressure up to about 2.75 tons with a puck diameter of 1.5". No blowout, no discoloration of rosin, looks perhaps a shade bronzer than it was 3 months ago. Parchment looked nice no bleed through or tearing.
My only regret is not packing up 3x of these filters and running them at once. 0.87g yield
90u 2x2.5" filter, 160s press @ 190F (plate temp) ramping pressure up to about 2.75 tons with a puck diameter of 1.5". No blowout, no discoloration of rosin, looks perhaps a shade bronzer than it was 3 months ago. Parchment looked nice no bleed through or tearing.
My only regret is not packing up 3x of these filters and running them at once. 0.87g yield
MegaMan2k
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I ended up enjoying the edibles from rosin pucks left overs etc.
So much i now want to continue consuming edibles more often
Ive seen some people post about decarbing rosin in the oven at around 90-100c
Stating that the decarb will then happen fast like 20 minutes or so
If that is sufficient then all i will need to do is to melt some coconut oil and mix that with the decarbed oil, add some lecithin and let it harden in the fridge, done?
Or am i missing something?
So much i now want to continue consuming edibles more often
Ive seen some people post about decarbing rosin in the oven at around 90-100c
Stating that the decarb will then happen fast like 20 minutes or so
If that is sufficient then all i will need to do is to melt some coconut oil and mix that with the decarbed oil, add some lecithin and let it harden in the fridge, done?
Or am i missing something?
Hackerman
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I used to decarb my rosin in the oven. 240F for 40 minutes, which was longer than needed (I found later).
Now, I decarb all my rosin in a beaker on my hotplate. About 250F and I just heat it and watch the bubbles. When the bubble just about stop, the decarb is done. For small quantities like a gram, it is all done in about 5 to 7 minutes.
Now, I decarb all my rosin in a beaker on my hotplate. About 250F and I just heat it and watch the bubbles. When the bubble just about stop, the decarb is done. For small quantities like a gram, it is all done in about 5 to 7 minutes.
mixchu69
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Ive been looking to purchase a rosin press (been talking with @MinnBobber) and have been wondering: rosin tek has been out for several years....do you think that the price point of these presses will go down, or have we reached a point where prices have stabilized and dont expect press prices to be much cheaper..looking at some DIY, it seems like it cant get much cheaper...buy a Dake or Harbor Freight, some plates and controllers (which all seem to be around $200-500), making a decent press around $600-1000
I don't see them getting much cheaper unless rosin/solventless goes more mainstream.
The shipping and raw materials make up the bulk of the price with the rosin control PID being maybe one of the inflated components. This can be DIY'd on the cheap for the handy.
A small 3x3 kit with a cheap 10 ton press diy setup is probably at the low end for best balance of equipment. I think that'd come in at the sub 300 range. For something more compact I dunno if that'll be much cheaper.
A small 3x3 kit with a cheap 10 ton press diy setup is probably at the low end for best balance of equipment. I think that'd come in at the sub 300 range. For something more compact I dunno if that'll be much cheaper.
Hackerman
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I have made 3 or 4 presses, learning along the way and it's pretty easy and it's pretty cheap.
1" thick aluminum for blocks is about 20 bux on ebay. "ceramic mold heaters" is what you want to search for the heaters. They are only a few bux each.
Drilling a straight hole for the heaters and making the surface smooth is probably the hardest part. All the other stuff is easy peasy.
I made all mine for way under 100 bucks. Way under. And, I use a HF desktop press that was about $70 with all of them.
And, I am NOT a DIY type person. Not very handy with my hands at all.
If I were going to buy one, I would look real close at our sponsor here that makes the cage model. Don't remember their name but what I have seen of the product is very nice.
1" thick aluminum for blocks is about 20 bux on ebay. "ceramic mold heaters" is what you want to search for the heaters. They are only a few bux each.
Drilling a straight hole for the heaters and making the surface smooth is probably the hardest part. All the other stuff is easy peasy.
I made all mine for way under 100 bucks. Way under. And, I use a HF desktop press that was about $70 with all of them.
And, I am NOT a DIY type person. Not very handy with my hands at all.
If I were going to buy one, I would look real close at our sponsor here that makes the cage model. Don't remember their name but what I have seen of the product is very nice.
@Hackerman if I could encourage you to do a writeup on a cheap diy setup. That would be a huge benefit to those who enjoy building but also those who want to save a couple hundred bucks! That's real savings.
Hackerman
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I have been thinking about doing a DIY on a "cage" setup. I think those are so cool. If I do, I'll take some pics and make some notes.
Meanwhile, I'll try to post some links to the material I used in my last setup.
My step son came up today and sampled some of my latest efforts. His first question was did you buy this? By just sight and smell he had no idea it was a pressing. I guess that's a compliment =)