PLENTY Vaporizer

[Raf007]

So I finally got to try this little baby and here is a short review. Sorry if there are some point or clarity missing but reviews are not my strongest point especially when on hurry

First about the plastic taste, it goes away super fast, like even before hitting for real with the vape....so that's one good point

The stainless steel whip is a nice idea as it cools down the vapor in a new way and indeed the vapor felt really tasty. But tastier than with glass ? no of course
If not much material the liquid pad works perfectly with small amount.
The wire is long enough so you can move around with the plenty in your hands.
You can vape a small amount fast if needed what was not possible with the cano.
Automatic shut off is nice (but see below).

Now, to the points I did not like:

The vape does not stand up by itself and even if it may be sturdy it doesn't look as sturdy as the Cano.
Moreover the whip gets really hot and you don't want to touch anybody by surprise with it.
This added to the fact that the bowl is made out of steel for part of it makes unloading it a touchy matter when everything is still hot.
The same facts end up in a fast vaporizing process as conduction and convection are on progress here.
Automotic shut off time is to short and you have to press the handle again and again in one session if it's a long one...which may be considered as a pro for some.
Holding it doesn't feel natural at all, and 4 of us were kind of wondering how it is supposed to be hold.

Conclusion:
This vape does NOT takes me to a place where Volcano never took me, neither other vaporizers. It's just another good quality & nice vape with it's cons and pros .

 

[Tommy]

Hello my friends!

No need to thank, you're welcome!

Thanks for your review Raf007! Like this one can start to compare different opinions on the vape, really nice. And I agree with everything you posted my friend, really nice, thanks!

Conclusion: This vape does NOT takes me to a place where Volcano never took me, neither other vaporizers. It's just another good quality & nice vape with it's cons and pros .

I'm glad that now the main conclusion to take out of this is a critic to a sentence from my review. Trully impressed... Thanks!

Any further conclusions other than that?

I'm really sorry about it. I only said that the high, for me, in my opinion, is different from other vaporizers I have. To me, it's more pontent. Saying a different thing would be lying and I don't want to lie to you guys... so...

Anyway, here is my first quote, where you can see that I leave it very clear that it is my opinion:

The Plenty is definetly like it says on the box "Effect, Purity and Flavor". Completly true for the "effect", to me it is excessively potent indeed, it takes to a place where Volcano never took me, neither other vaporizers. I'm a soft user, I use between 0.5 and 0.8gr per day, so maybe other owners of the Plenty may have a different opinion

>>>>> I worte that "other owners of the Plenty may have a different opinion" !!! (couldn't be any more clear about the subjectivity of my comments, I think... only other option was lying or omiting the truth, which I don't like to do in the forums)
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We really needed a good review and pictoral like that, thanks Tommy. I'd definitely like to try one out. Can you compare the vapor output to some other common whip vapes, like the DBV, SSV, Extreme Q?

Hi Carlie!

Thanks mate! Unfortunatelly I can't compare with the vapes you mention, sorry, don't have them and never tried them. Hopefully someone else will be abble to compare it around here soon
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Nice review and pics! I do take exception with this- "it takes to a place where Volcano never took me, neither other vaporizers." Although I'm not saying the statement isn't true for you, there's no vape that can get you higher than all others, due to design or whatever. We don't want anyone thinking they need to buy this because it can do what no other model can.

Hi max! Thanks

Of course not my friend. I should say it again: it is from my personal point of view. A point of view of someone that consumes low quantities of weed. With the Volcano I can consume a 0.4g charge slowly... One bag in 30 minutes, a pause, then another bag from the same charge in another 30 minutes. With the Plenty it "gets in" all at once in 10 minutes, so, maybe only because of this, "it takes me to a place where Volcano never took me, neither other vaporizers." This is true to me and I'm not goint to say the opposite, sorry.

In fact I had to stop using the Plenty, I don't use it since sunday (2 days with no use now) because it is too much for me. I woke up dizzy and with nausea. And yes, because it is really to strong for me, like no other vape has ever been. But that's maybe my problem as I'm very sensitive like I first said.

Anyway sorry about it, I'm really sorry and I'm very sure that it wont happen again, don't worry.

Kind regards,

tommy

 

[max]

No big deal Tommy. I knew you were just talking about your experience, but we always have some that take things out of context, and when it comes to an S&B product, it's even more likely that newbies to vaping will take it wrong.

I am a little surprised that you find it significantly more potent in its delivery than the Herbo. Do you have the fixed temp model or the XL?

One review I found praises the whip-

"One of the coolest (no pun intended) revolutionary aspects of the PLENTY vaporizer is the air cooled whip. It is made of stainless steel which really does help and is totally worth the added cost. I compare this whip to using a water pipe with ice cubes added. The vapor comes out significantly cooler than other standard whip vaporizers."

But then they said this on the same page, so all my faith that they know what they're talking about is now gone.

"When we reviewed the WISPR vaporizer, we were sure that we had met the best whip related vaporizer."
The little silicone stem on the wispr doesn't even qualify as a whip IMO. :/

 

[Adobewan]

Thanks Tommy, felt like I was there with you with that comprehensive photo record. Enjoy your new toy!
Question to the forum, is the size, and more so, the fact that it can't stand on it's own not a bit surprising? I'm sitting here wondering what you'd do between draws with that big power tool on the end of your arm like Optimus Vape, "Stop sucking my finger Sam! We have a planet to save!"
Other than that, I'm intrigued!

 

[Tommy]

Hi max!

Yep, I should have explained it very well since the begining. It happens that I'm kind of a medicinal user that for health problems have a great sensitivity to the effect of cannabis. So, if I consume an adecuate quantity of cannabis in an adecuate way, it will do wonders for my health. But if I consume an inadecuate quantity in an inadecuate way I can get a negative effect. The Plenty kinda "forces" me to use cannabis in an inadecuate way and due to my "condition" doing it in that kind of inadecuate way makes me go somewhere no other vaporizer ever took me. Which, for me, is not a good thing, sorry if you understood that I was saying that it is a good thing to me.

It will probably stay in the closet without being used just like all my other vaporizers, except for the Volcano, which I use daily because it is much more kind with me and I can hang very well with a 0.4gr charge while with the Plenty I get completly devastated. But well, if one day I want to sleep earlier I just have to use the Plenty and off to bed, hehehe. Or in a party day, to get a huge buzz

I should definetly have explained it just like this in the first time. My bad...

I am a little surprised that you find it significantly more potent in its delivery than the Herbo. Do you have the fixed temp model or the XL?

I have the Herborizer XL with the temperature choice and all. And yes, if I do a charge of 0.4gr on the Herbo and I inhale it all by myself in 5-10 minutes the effect is similar to the effect of the Plenty in terms of potency. But in terms of type of effect they are slightly different, maybe for the different kind and quantity of cannabinoids that both vapes allow you to get. The Plenty gets me more sleepy and incapacitated, that's why I consider that it does what the other vapes never did to me, although this is no "pro" or "con" to the vape, it's just what it is... In fact, to me, it is both a pro and con, being the pro a fantastic amazing high and the con the fact that it is not suitable for me and my personal condition. But, all this, from my personal point of view with all the subjectivity that comes along with it.

But yes, the Herborizer can be as potent as the Plenty

Happy vapes my friends, kind regards,

tommy

 

[Tommy]

Thanks Tommy, felt like I was there with you with that comprehensive photo record. Enjoy your new toy!
Question to the forum, is the size, and more so, the fact that it can't stand on it's own not a bit surprising? I'm sitting here wondering what you'd do between draws with that big power tool on the end of your arm like Optimus Vape, "Stop sucking my finger Sam! We have a planet to save!"
Other than that, I'm intrigued!

You're welcome Adobewan!

Well, that's true my friend, it is a bit bigger than I thought before I have it. And if you take 2 minutes between draws, like I do, you definetly need to find a place to drop it in the meanwhile, like the little box you can see in my pictures. Well if you're just watching tv you can hold it with in your hands, but if you vape while you're in the internet you really need a place to drop it.

You can also put it in the "standard" position, like laying down to one of the sides. I prefer to have it in a vertical position, but it seems that it is prepared to be laying down on a table.

Kind regards,

tommy

 

[Raf007]

Hi Tommy. Apologies if what I wrote came out arsh. Nothing against you.
And I totally agree with what you added in your post 103. And I now get why you stated that about the plenty.
Yes the stainless whip is maybe the coolest feature of this vape. But that's really it imHo.
I'll be back with more comments

 

[Tommy]

Hi Raf007!

No problem at all my friend.

As I told before I actually agree with everything you said in your review. And besides that you mentioned a few things that I forgot to mention. Like that one about the stainless whip getting too hot near the bowl. If you only use it for 10 minutes it's hard to get burned but I can imagine that if you use it for more time and can end up burning a bit...

I'll keep passing by to read more about your experience and I'll also post more of my opinions soon, because I'll try to use it at least once a day, before going to bed

Kind regards,

tommy

 

[FLskwat]

Hi everyone,

We did a quick out of the box review with Raph for you to have images and see the bad boy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xwxjaF_ErM

Sorry for the parkinson "footage", it was done on my phone in 5 seconds... I have nothing to add to Raph's comments.
Music: Aromatherapy by T-Love!

(BTW Soon more quality HD footage - and steady cam LOL- for all the models we have on this channel in a very near future!)

 

[mvapes]

I love the look and considering S & B's history and success - im all in! Looking forward to the US release.

 

[1nvnx3]

I love the look and considering S & B's history and success - im all in! Looking forward to the US release.

I checked their website and it says they already deliver worldwide. For an extra price, I guess. Do you know when will it be released in North America?

* edit: typo

 

[rubbabudbud]

I'm not going to post any photos since Tommy has already done a good job on that front but here's my review:


I was very lucky to receive a gift of Storz & Bickel's Plenty vapouriser. Thought I'd share some pics and thoughts with UK420.

This vapouriser feels solidly made and the manual temp gauge gives it a retro but reliable feeling. It reminds me of something manly like a Festool or Makita tool for those familiar with such brands. It doesn't appeal to my feminine side! Like L S Diesel alluded to HERE it would look at home in a toolbox or on a work-bench. The handle reminds me of a metal detector handle or an electric strimmer. I have big hands so my fore-finger gets warmed since it is close to the heating element.

It has an on/off switch, a temperature gauge from 40C-220C an adjustable wheel running from 1-7 and a dead man's switch incorporated into the handle (very tempted to get a bit of duct tape to hold this switch on even though it can void the warranty according to the manual-maybe overheat the unit?).

The unit doesn't stand upright but instead lies flat on 3 rubber feet which are lovely and grippy but do tend to pick up a bit of dust/dirt from whatever surface it sits on.

There is quite a big bowl that has to be filled to the top with about 0.6g( just over a teaspoonful) of cannabis. Compare this with the Volcano Solid valve chamber that when filled 60% takes 0.4g of cannabis. So not as economical as the Volcano because you can fill it one third full and still get decently high.

The Plenty is utterly silent apart from the slight whistle I manage to produce when toking on the whip at a certain speed.

This machine gives lots of vapour with minimal effort: 2 big draws once it hits it's set temperature and you get plentiful vapour. I've been running the unit at 5 which equates to about 180C according to the dial ...any higher and I get tickly coughs (but doesn't help that I'm at the end of a Christmas chesty cough).

The cooling tube is very effective but it gets very hot; enough to burn yer fingers near the start of the spiral tube. There is a clear warning-do not touch metal parts. Once the machine switches off or you remove the whip it cools very quickly. The passive draw makes the temperature drop quickly so I keep an eye on the gauge and orange light.

Draw 1 gives clear air but fresh fruity flavours of bud and a 5C drop in temperature.

Draw 2 gives a full cloud off quite dry 6 month old bud and another 5C drop.

By the 3rd bowl I was supremely caned and started to forget to press the dead man's switch. You get a top quality hit from this device with no taste of plastic etc., a very pure flavour. Quite succulent thick vape.

You can't draw for too long before the temperature drops and you have to wait a minute to hit the sweet spot as the orange light clicks off and another toke awaits. I've found that overall it is worth sipping at rather than caning big lungfuls like using a bong.

I have yet to clean it so will update when that happens. I'll be avoiding anything poisonous when I do because of the creases in the pipe/whip/coil (see pic). I'll be trying simmering in milk or oil or plain water in an ultrasonic cleaner.


Some Vital Statistics

Time to heat up to 180degC, 3minutes 40secs. My Volcano Digital takes 4minutes 50seconds to reach 185C (control light turning off).

Time to heat from 120degC to 180degC 1minute 45seconds.

Time for the dead man's switch to turn off machine, 2 minutes.

The power cable is a decent 270cm long (nearly 9ft) and a chunky 5mm in diameter.


Looks: 7/10
Functionality: 9/10
Build Quality: 9/10
Bud Economy: 6/10

I get blasted from this machine! If you have the spare cash it's definitely worth the purchase.

 

[biojuggernaut]

welll done review!

 

[Haywood]

I have some thoughts, but keep in mind that I don't own a PLENTY, I haven't used one, or even seen one in person, and all I have to go on is what I've read here and watched on the youtube videos. So take everything I say with a grain of salt. These are just my thoughts, looking from the outside.

As a point of reference, I own a Volcano Digit (thanks VapeFiend, for getting me restarted in vaping years ago!), an iolite (original iInhale), a Launch Box (and it's earlier incarnation, the Launch Tube), and a drawer full of mostly useless attempts at a portable stealth vape; different pipes with stones inside and glass tubes that either don't work at all or just act like a one hitter that is burning the content, not vaporizing it. I was also a beta-tester for Magic Flight. I have no experience with more moderately priced (than the Volcano) home units, and I haven't used any of the popular whip units with glass vapor paths and the like. The PLENTY is obviously S&B's attempt to come out with a great vaporizer for people that don't care for bag systems. I happen to prefer bag systems, and I have been totally happy with the (Easy Valve) Volcano DIGIT that I have, and haven't looked for anything else to use at home. So I don't have much of a perspective on the ins and outs of home whip systems, and which ones are great, and which ones are crap, and why. I do check out the new portable vaporizer models a lot as they come out.


Things that concern me about the PLENTY:

(1) A mechanical bi-metalic temp control. This is ancient technology. At this price point, why isn't the temp controlled electronically? Maybe S&B will release an even more expensive digital version in the future, as they did with the Volcano.

(2) The flexible SS breathing tube. Well, it should cool down the vap stream, but at what price? It is going to be a huge pain in the ass to keep clean, and it will get hot as hell, particularly at the end near the unit. A lot of the vapor stream will be condensing on the inside of the SS tube with every hit.

(3) I am not particularly impressed with the temperature gauge. It's also ancient technology, fragile, and this type of gauge is usually less than accurate or consistent. I threw away my $3 meat thermometer (which was of the same technology as this gauge appears to be) years ago when I replaced it with a $20 digital version that is very accurate and takes a consistent, repeatable reading in two seconds).

(4) It's not portable (requires AC power), it doesn't stand upright on it's own, and it has a "stoned-man-switch" that from the first reports here, makes the unit less friendly to use. And why the need for a power cord that's thick enough to supply 15 amps to a broiler?

/begin devils-advocate-mode
On the other hand,

(1) Well, the original Volcano uses the same mechanical bi-metalic temp control technology, and it seems to work just fine, and has proved reliable for many years. You figure out what "number" gives you the effect you want, and you just set it and forget it, and bob's your uncle. Just because something isn't the newest technology doesn't mean it doesn't work exactly as it's supposed to, or that it's less reliable.

(2) Well, the SS tube does cool the vap stream down, which is what it's designed to do. And with any whip system you still have to clean residue off the parts in the vapor stream.

(3) Well, considering what I just mentioned in devils-advocate #1 above, having a temperature gauge is a very nice, probably useful adjunct to the mechanical temp control. And even with a digital temp control and readout, one still fine tunes the setting to their desires anyway. When I am using my Volcano DIGIT, I frequently do the first bag or two at 185C and the remaining bags at 190C.

(4) OK, it's not portable. Neither is my Volcano. And S&B could easily have made the power cord exit at a different angle and/or exit the unit from a different place, if they wanted to. Maybe with the SS whip it's just too unstable standing upright, and S&B didn't want it to fall over every time you put it down. They did put little rubber feet on it so it was stable when put down on its side. And your Volcano has an automatic timeout on the heater, to prevent it from staying heated when unattended, so what's your problem with the grip switch on the PLENTY? I suppose they also have a good reason for using such a thick power cord; maybe the thickness is for strength, not for supplying enough current to power an arc welder.
/end devils-advocate-mode

Enough of my schizophrenia.

I don't see a place in my needs for a PLENTY. I really like the Volcano DIGIT and it's bag system for use when I'm home, and the Launch Box when I'm in stealth mode. But I do have a lot of friends who don't like a bag system, so an S&B whip vaporizer that's well made, well supported, and well liked would be something I'd love to be able to recommend to them. Over the years I have discovered that something that's easy to use and maintain (and, of course, that works well) is what I wind up sticking with. Even though I'm not yet impressed with what I've read and seen about the PLENTY, I do have faith in S&B; my experience with the Volcano, both in ordering, using, getting questions answered, and year-to-year reliability has been exemplary. I'm really most interested in hearing how easy or difficult it is to maintain on a day to day basis. The whole SS whip part strikes me as less than ideal.

Am I the only one that thinks the PLENTY might be a very, very nice front end for a water pipe/bubbler? (Without the SS pipe!)

p.s. Happy New Year everyone!

 

[Gumbel]

Am I the only one that thinks the PLENTY might be a very, very nice front end for a water pipe/bubbler?

Yes, from what i have red, the mouthpiece fits perfectly into the female of a bong (don`t know the exact size).

I don`t own a plenty yet, but i have red this whole thread and want the share some thought on the plenty.

First of all, it`s named PLENTY vaporizer. So i assume it`s meant to be build for rather large amounts of material.
In fact, the Volcano and Plenty are not build to only vaporize THC. It`s also for other herbs und there it comes to an real advantage if you can use more material. I believe not all herbs give strong effects from 0,2g like cannabis does. So vaporizers with only tiny bowls just disqualify for vaporizing other herbs than cannabis. Thats only a thought, don`t know if it`s true or not.

My Question for vaporizers is, which one gives me the strongest effect from the same amount of material.

@ the Plenty users:
Can you put an amount of 0,1-0,2g in the plenty with the liquid pad? How does it go in terms of vapor quality and effect then?
How long can you take draws then?

I own a volcano, but really considering buying a PLENTY - or an Extreme Q.

I have the Herborizer XL with the temperature choice and all. And yes, if I do a charge of 0.4gr on the Herbo and I inhale it all by myself in 5-10 minutes the effect is similar to the effect of the Plenty in terms of potency. But in terms of type of effect they are slightly different, maybe for the different kind and quantity of cannabinoids that both vapes allow you to get. The Plenty gets me more sleepy and incapacitated, that's why I consider that it does what the other vapes never did to me, although this is no "pro" or "con" to the vape, it's just what it is... In fact, to me, it is both a pro and con, being the pro a fantastic amazing high and the con the fact that it is not suitable for me and my personal condition. But, all this, from my personal point of view with all the subjectivity that comes along with it.

You say the Plenty gets you more sleepy than other vapes at the same temperature?

Here are my thoughts:

It`s just a thing of the temperature.If you have a higher temperature you won`t only vape the THC in the material but also other stuff (which makes you sleepy and stoned).
When you set the plenty to 180C, the herb chamber will probably really reach 180 but will be lower on other vaporizers you have tested, so the effects are altered.
Could be true when i read that several Extreme Q users say, that they get the best vapor when they leave the Extreme Q on for 10minutes before hitting first.
Probably it would help to set the plenty to a lower temperature than you do on other vaporizers- or use less material with the liquid pad?

I wonder why they have a herb chamber with such a big surface. Probably it works better (faster) because you don`t have several layers of herb like in the volcano solid wave or other vaporizers which even have smaller surfaces in the herb chamber. I relly wonder how it works with 0,1-0,2g + liquid pad.

 

[Gumbel]

Probably i will order one tomorrow directly from S&B since they offer a full 30 days money back guarantee!

They said i can test it out and if i don`t want it they will take it back with full refund.

 

[Twanbiz]

I got an email from gotvape looks to be about 320 usd dollars for the USA model. I'm interested enough to try it out.

 

[elmomuzz]

I can't wait for this thing to go on sale in the us. My next purchase! I hear it will be a few months.

 

[Gumbel]

I`m wondering if the max. temperature of 202C is enough to get the most out of the herb...

 

[elmomuzz]

You get pretty thick bags from a volcano set to 202 but...

The volcano heater core is a aluminum cylinder with holes drilled through around the perimeter. The airflow goes straight throughout it. This new double helix design there is now a twist of the cylinder. I bet they accomplish this by stacking thin plates of aluminum with the holes slightly offset. I'll know soon enough. But this lengthens the air path giving it more time to heat. More efficient. So the aluminum core doesn't need to be quite as hot.

 

[Jiltut]

I can't help but picture below & hearing the plenty advert every time I see this thread title.

 

[Raf007]

@Gumbel

Yes you can go up to 202, I haven't try at max for a long time to tell you the truth but I can tell you I got my herb brown enough.

It works with 0.1g and the liquid pad wich...

Adds lots of conduction in the vaporization process, so there is even more percolation in betwteen hits, you literally can see a little steam of vapor going out.
Just for the story, I know about one guy who bought it and sent it back within 7 days.

The whip is 14mm btw so it fits perfectly on a bong stem of that size. Vapebonging with the plenty was a nice experience.

In all honnesty the Plenty is far from being a homerun for me, I just keep thinking that is was kind of a waste of time to build such a vape nowadays...but I may be wrong who knows.

 

[smartrott]

Anyone have a clue when this thing will be for sale in the US. I have searched all over the web and I can't hardly find shit on it, anywhere. There are a couple of vids on YT but that's it.

If these things are selling in Europe, why aren't there more reviews

The volcano is a top notch quality build. I would expect the plenty to be the same.

When is the plenty going to be released into the US market?

 

[Gumbel]

Anyone have a clue when this thing will be for sale in the US. I have searched all over the web and I can't hardly find shit on it, anywhere. There are a couple of vids on YT but that's it.

You can order from Storz&Bickel directly since they offer shipments to the USA.

https://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_eur/media/content/Shipping_Information_2010.pdf

 

[Vapemania]

I've just read the whole thread.

It was really great to read the posts by Raf007 and Haywood.

When I saw a cheaper S&B vaporizer, I couldn't believe it!
The first thing they mention is the vaping temp.
Immediately, I knew this was a serious player.
But then we saw the first youtube vid testing it out.
It kinda went downhill after that.
I have to say, I feel much more excited about the other vapes on the market now.

It's such a pity cos S&B had money to throw at the project, and also have a massive reputation.
I was hoping for the design brilliance of Heckler & Koch, but it turned out to be Toys R Us, instead.

Nonetheless, the liquid pad is ingenious and hopefully will be tested and made available by other vapes.
I'm still shocked by the actual design. It is truly... unbelievable.