Discontinued Pax 2

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MolecularConcept

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How do you activate the second party mode? I rolled on its side and the light show came on. What about simon (hopefully not funky town)
 
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pakalolo

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How do you activate the second party mode? I rolled on its side and the light show came on. What about simon (hopefully not funky town)

Use slow rolls in groups of three. You should see a change in behaviour after each successful group of three. Simon is triggered by the fourth set of rolls on mine.
 

SkipTransit

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Also, the "black / Charcoal" is not at all as expected. The color seems to have more of a purple hue to it.... almost a bronze. hard to explain, but not at all black as expected. Looking at the pictures online I though it would have been black like the PAX 1.

Nice! Was having a hard time deciding on a color and was leaning towards the red, which just seems a little off somehow. Now that I know the black changes in light to gunmetal, bronzes and chocolates, my mind is made up.

I'm such a sucker for that kind of color/light interplay, especially when there is a bronze involved...

Thanks!
 

MolecularConcept

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Is simon the actual game? I got a multi for light scheme , a light the goes up and down left and right and a motion activated light no game and no funky town.
 
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jambandphan03

in flavor country
I found no real problems loading small chunks of hand broken bud. After I felt the setting 2 wasn't producing as much vapor, I tapped the load out in my hand, gave it a light crumble and put it back in set to 3 for a few hits, then 4 to finish and enjoyed the entire sesh. This is good for times when you just don't have a grinder and don't want to have to make a production out of loading it. I just broke off pea sized chunks and pressed them into the oven till it was full. Don't pack it down super tight, just a firm press to make it dense, but still allow some air flow. :tup: Glad it worked. next time I try this I will just bump up the temp with out the tap out to see if it handles a full sesh with no stir.

Also trying to play with my rotation games, but a little too ript to make sense of all the flashing lights right now LOL

This Pax2 is getting me extremely medicated, when I've been used to steadily vaping through the day, rotaing around between the Sublimator set at around 37 watts (which is a dark roast on abv) my INH004 which also creates a solid dark roast, and flame vapes which I rotate around with almost daily as well. I am finding the Pax2 to be extremely effective.
 
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microduck

elementary vaporist
so the sensor area would be covered by the tubing
waiting to learn more about this "capacitive lip sensing" - I mean the ideas are endless in that being capacitive sensors can be soooo sensitive as to pick up voice vibrations and/or adjusted to detected movement within a certain "proximity" of the sensor location....

so many questions... proximity detections and/or possible voice/humming vibrations that carry through a silicone draw tube would open up a new branch of on-demand water tubes experience
 

MolecularConcept

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Yeah I'm curious about the lip sensing function too. I've been playing around with the Pax2 but haven't loaded her up yet.

I do knowthe oven get mad hot QUICK I burnt my pinkt when playing with the hidden features.

Oh and I really love the new oven lid feels much more secure! All together a really solid feel. Very good craftmenship on this module. Really wish it had SIMON damnit!
 

SkipTransit

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waiting to learn more about this "capacitive lip sensing" - I mean the ideas are endless in that being capacitive sensors can be soooo sensitive as to pick up voice vibrations and/or adjusted to detected movement within a certain "proximity" of the sensor location....

so many questions... proximity detections and/or possible voice/humming vibrations that carry through a silicone draw tube would open up a new branch of on-demand water tubes experience

Yeah I'm curious about the lip sensing function too.

Other than being MAGIC. COMPLETELY. MAGIC?

You can see in the P2 teardown vid on YouTube what is going on. At least a hack electronics hobbyist like me has found it, and I am by no means extremely knowledgeable and have so much more to learn.

Luckily, the PCB is pretty clearly marked as to what is going on, (even though we only see one side of it). You can see a PCB lead on the power button ribbon cable marked: "PWR_BUTTON" & "CAP_SNS_INNER". The electrically conductive silicone (think iPad stylus fat tip) of the mouthpiece stays in contact with the electrically conductive silicone power switch cover. The power button is itself electrically conductive, being what appears to be a stainless steel dome switch, which doubles as the contact for whichever of those little black squares is the capacitance sensor chip. (I marked what I think mayyyyyyyyybe it, but have no knowledge without clear numbers on all of the chips to decipher. So don't quote me as thinking the arrowed chip IS the correct one, since I am wrong so often!)

Hope I am not offending any rule about posting the following teardown screenshot from a YouTube video, (if so, Pak can delete the link without complaint from me.):

MB20mWv.jpg


I was curious too, much like all ya'll, so did the above quick bit of research to quench the curiosity thirst for myself and others. (Please note that I have no idea from watching the video if there is a "CAP_SNS_OUTER" anywhere in there!)

Anyway, hope this helps answer some questions and doesn't run afoul of any sensibilities I am unaware of. Just cracking out since I don't have one and this is acting as my balm until one is in my hot little hands.

And just a final word to the Pax Vapor Engineers, solid effort and execution, mates! Applause all around!

Must. Get. Back. To. Drywall. Sanding. Hell!

ugh...
 
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Dexter 1980

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Nice! Was having a hard time deciding on a color and was leaning towards the red, which just seems a little off somehow. Now that I know the black changes in light to gunmetal, bronzes and chocolates, my mind is made up.

I'm such a sucker for that kind of color/light interplay, especially when there is a bronze involved...

Thanks!

Gun Metal Bronze is a very accurate description, looking at it from my eyes anyways. The color is growing on me after not seeing my PAX 1 for 28 hours..........and counting.

I loved the PAX 1 :rip:, but man the PAX 2 is an awesome lil unit :)
 

malanbalan

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Nice. I like my pax 2 mate. The protruding mp did get hot the first times. I learn how to sip from it. The flat mp has no prob.
 
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pakalolo

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Other than being MAGIC. COMPLETELY. MAGIC?

You can see in the P2 teardown vid on YouTube what is going on. At least a hack electronics hobbyist like me has found it, and I am by no means extremely knowledgeable and have so much more to learn.

Luckily, the PCB is pretty clearly marked as to what is going on. You can see a PCB lead on the power button ribbon cable marked: "PWR_BUTTON" & "CAP_SNS_INNER". The electrically conductive silicone (think iPad stylus fat tip) of the mouthpiece stays in contact with the electrically conductive silicone power switch cover. The power button is itself electrically conductive, being what appears to be a stainless steel dome switch, which doubles as the contact for whichever of those little black squares is the capacitance sensor chip. (I marked what I think mayyyyyyyyybe it, but have no knowledge without clear numbers on all of the chips to decipher. So don't quote me as thinking the arrowed chip IS the correct one, since I am wrong so often!)

Hope I am not offending any rule about posting the following teardown screenshot from a YouTube video, (if so, Pak can delete the link without complaint from me.):

c7niSkw.jpg


I was curious too, much like all ya'll, so did the above quick bit of research to quench the curiosity thirst for myself and others. (Please note that I have no idea from watching the video if there is a "CAP_SNS_OUTER" anywhere in there!)

Anyway, hope this helps answer some questions and doesn't run afoul of any sensibilities I am unaware of. Just cracking out since I don't have one and this is acting as my balm until one is in my hot little hands.

And just a final word to the Pax Vapor Engineers, solid effort and execution, mates! Applause all around!

Must. Get. Back. To. Drywall. Sanding. Hell!

ugh...

Thanks for confirming my theory. I have one correction: the top isn't electrically conductive silicone, at least not according to my multimeter.
 

MolecularConcept

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Thanks for that screen grab that's the first I've seen of that

I think the power switch is mechanical there's deffinaty some clicky button feedback. Electrically conductive silicone sounds spoton though. That's what actually had me confused I thought of silicone as an insulator. The steel nub is a really a little cylinder shaped bar.

I'm gonna do some timing of the heat ups anyone done this yet?



Edit- its not really conductive silicone! Lol damint what's goin on?

Just tried flared mouthpiece wow that get way to hot, love the design but how'd no one catch that?
 
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SkipTransit

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Thanks for confirming my theory. I have one correction: the top isn't electrically conductive silicone, at least not according to my multimeter.

Ah, my bad. The capacitance sensor must be proximity based then and the silicone rubber is transparent enough to the switching distance, or I am just missing something fundamental. (Which I wouldn't doubt, since I am such an electronics noob.) But then the metal nub on the raised mouth piece puzzles me. (edit: I updated the screenshot to reflect my lack of knowledge and figured out that the metal nib in the flare MP is most likely for stabilty for da pokie thang.)

I asked the author of the video to put up some macro shots of both sides of the PCB (there are components on the bottom we can't see in the vid,) so that we could get numbers off the chips and look up specs.

Ah, well. Smarter folk than us will enlighten us in short order, I am sure.

Thanks for testing it!
 
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JoeMama

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First load is kicking my ass!:D Using flat mouthpiece (felt the hot spot on the raised mouthpiece, I think it's the direct air path hitting that metal button under the raised mp causing that, transfering the heat, the flat one has a silicone bump, so it's not as hot) , started on 2 finishing on 3, where I used to run med/high on the pax1 for the same results. Gentle, steady draw produces larger clouds on 3, med clouds on 2, set it down to type this sentence, and picked back up after it went to blue/stand by for a couple of seconds, and got instant return to purp/heating with no delay, very responsive to motion. Flavor remained strong while set at 2, after a quick stir and tamp I set to 3 and finished the load, taste dropped quickly once I bumped up the heat which is expected...still can't compain at all about the end of the load flavor, its still IMO in the acceptable range of nicely toasted but not bitter or burned tasting, load appears pretty evenly roasted. Over all I am very pleased to have the Pax2!!

my eyes are getting too red and squinty to keep typing right now :ko:

**2nd load will be barely broken up by hand, loaded in small chunks, pressed firmly into the oven to see how evenly it handles unground, denser bud the way you might do it if out and about and no grinder.


Thanks for doing this! I'd love to know about how you packed the first load (fine, tamped down?), and how you will proceed with those results as well!
 
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berman1125

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The led is pretty impressive. When you are not hitting it the lights shimer between green,blue/green, yellow/green, yellow, teal, white/grayish

Then when you have skin contact with the mouthpiece the lights seem to be green and flashing in both clockwise and counterclockwise motions
 

cawshook

Solod out.
VAS is a horrible thing. I have been on the fence between the flowermate pro + the flowermate mini ($150) and the pax2.

It has been a torturous decision.

I have decided to not to get my teeth cleaned, and with the savings, but all three.
Try not to eat anything for the next few weeks. Save money on food AND keep ur teeth clean. Two birds one stone. Your welcome.
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
After a session, I like to turn on the light painting mode in the dark. Its very entertaining to watch the light trails change color when you wave it around quickly
yeah so far, if I rotate 3 times towards or away from me on first try, I get party mode, if I then rotate it 3 times towards me, I get a red light that flashes from one side the other, had I rotated it 3 times away from me on the 2nd try, it would give me a green light that flashes from one side to the other. If I then rotate it a 3rd time it gives me the motion paint light. If I rotate it 3 times away from me a 4th time, it appears to go back to the first party mode. That is all I've figured out so far. I've tried rotating from a center axis instead of rolling, and didn't get more than battery readings, same with shaking so far. I'm sure there is more to discover
 
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Steele Concept

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Just purchased the last one my local dispensary had, they got it in the mail just yesterday. I got the black one and I had the original black pax. I was curious about the silver pax 2 until I opened this thing...

Man o man. The black is more a polished gunmetal and now I'm real happy I went with black again for the pax 2. The device feel so much more solid in the hands and has an aluminum outside as opposed to plastic really making it feel like a solid Apple style product. I'd like to do an unboxing and comparison of the old black vs. new black YouTube video and blog post.

I'm telling you guys the new gunmetal black is where it's at, screw the silver!
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
Just purchased the last one my local dispensary had, they got it in the mail just yesterday. I got the black one and I had the original black pax. I was curious about the silver pax 2 until I opened this thing...

Man o man. The black is more a polished gunmetal and now I'm real happy I went with black again for the pax 2. The device feel so much more solid in the hands and has an aluminum outside as opposed to plastic really making it feel like a solid Apple style product. I'd like to do an unboxing and comparison of the old black vs. new black YouTube video and blog post.

I'm telling you guys the new gunmetal black is where it's at, screw the silver!
yeah I'm pretty happy with the charcoal finish too, I've favored gunmetal over silver for a lot of things, my small vector hand torch, my grinder, when ever I get that option it's usually the first choice so I am pleased with this finish.

I just got to show the pax2 to a friend, we did a sesh between 3 of us, on a hand broken up load that was pretty full. I ran it on 2 until we stopped seeing much vapor, then I put it on 3 until the vapor dropped, then I gave it a stir and we got many more cloudy hits until I bumped it up to 4 to finish.

I tried to go with out stiring on the hand broken up buds, and found greener in the middle so it does best with at least one stir to break up the larger pieces which just crumble after being toasted. Not really a big deal to do by hand on the fly if you don't have other tools around to help. I do find a med grind vapes well. I need to do more vaping with ground bud again to see how long it can go with out any kind of stir. Was a great and fun birthday, went out for sushi, got to use the pax on my way home :D So stoked it got here so quickly! I'm definitely loving this vape! :luv:
 
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