Discontinued Lil' Bud by Vapwood

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After months of admiring the pictures on this thread, I was able to pick up an original Lil Bud and a Lil Bud Elite from the classifieds (Thanks @madhockeydad!). Can anyone confirm if RBT stems will work with this device? In what ways is the manual Lil bud similar to a milaana, and how does it differ? For the Elite, is temp control and option or is it all wattage? Thanks, and I cant wait to get my hands on these and play around with them!
 
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After months of admiring the pictures on this thread, I was able to pick up an original Lil Bud and a Lil Bud Elite from the classifieds (Thanks @madhockeydad!). Can anyone confirm if RBT stems will work with this device? In what ways is the manual Lil bud similar to a milaana, and how does it differ? For the Elite, is temp control and option or is it all wattage? Thanks, and I cant wait to get my hands on these and play around with them!

The stems should fit, LB was literally created "based off" of Milaana, but the heater is different, no insulator plate it is a spiral of steel mesh, as innovated by Alan of HI, so the heat up is much more instant without preheat is all? Probably more risk, if you overheat, without the insulator plate, potentially... The body of the LB is wood, so it can be hit or miss if a glass RBT stem is going to fit well, they stopped being included for this reason that many of them would wobble so they started only doing wooden stems here... So yeah the LB is unregulated run off the battery as well, but the elite has a full DNA chip with temp control regulation and yeah you can use it for wattage but I don't know why you would? My iHeat from Alan has the same heater and I'm running it on a DNA 75C as well, very nice setup!
 

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The stems should fit, LB was literally created "based off" of Milaana, but the heater is different, no insulator plate it is a spiral of steel mesh, as innovated by Alan of HI, so the heat up is much more instant without preheat is all? Probably more risk, if you overheat, without the insulator plate, potentially... The body of the LB is wood, so it can be hit or miss if a glass RBT stem is going to fit well, they stopped being included for this reason that many of them would wobble so they started only doing wooden stems here... So yeah the LB is unregulated run off the battery as well, but the elite has a full DNA chip with temp control regulation and yeah you can use it for wattage but I don't know why you would? My iHeat from Alan has the same heater and I'm running it on a DNA 75C as well, very nice setup!
Thanks Snacks! To clarify, I prefer temp control, and was wondering if that is feasible on the Lil bud Elite or if I would be forced into wattagge.
 

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Thanks Snacks! To clarify, I prefer temp control, and was wondering if that is feasible on the Lil bud Elite or if I would be forced into wattagge.

Yeah not only is it feasible I think it is the standard setup! There's a lot of info about it in the thread, when it was being set up etc.
 

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After months of admiring the pictures on this thread, I was able to pick up an original Lil Bud and a Lil Bud Elite from the classifieds (Thanks @madhockeydad!). Can anyone confirm if RBT stems will work with this device? In what ways is the manual Lil bud similar to a milaana, and how does it differ? For the Elite, is temp control and option or is it all wattage? Thanks, and I cant wait to get my hands on these and play around with them!
I also salute @madhockeydad because I was able to get an Elite too, thanks to him, which by the way, looks very similar to my LB Classic. I'm really looking forward to put the 2 brothers side by side. Gonna read the thread now...
 
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Thanks, and I cant wait to get my hands on these and play around with them!
So, did you receive them and did you begin to play? Mine arrived this morning, beautiful as expected, but i feel that i need time to perfom my technique and learn how to use the DNA. Any tips, guys?
I hope that the DNA and the TC will offer me a different experience than the unregulated, I would like to be able to use it without worrying too much about the technique, battery life etc...

The all-wood design is outstanding, the finishes (internally) are not exceptional and the knobs were a bit temperamental before I applied a little beeswax.
Here the new LB Elite with his little brother the LB Classic. Family is complete!
 

Razhumikin

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So, did you receive them and did you begin to play?
Yes i recieved them and love them both very much! I am a milaana collector and use a dna mod with a splinter so i havent really felt any learning curve with either of them.
RE: the regular lil bud, The lack of glass is interesting compared to a milaana, it definitely heats up quicker and produces huge clouds with less technique, but its harder to maintain the heat for a longer hit and the vapor is definitely drier and a little woddier on the lil bud.
RE: the elite, ive been absolutely loving this unit. Ive been having trouble getting it to produce big clouds, which is strange because i feel like its easier than a mi on the regular lil bud. While it may not be a ripper, it is an exceptional sipper. I find i can get a long session of really tasty clouds if i just set it to 390 on temp control and hit it until the vapor stops. I havent fucked around with the other mod settings yet, maybe thatll help my big cloud problem. Either way i love both of these vapes and have had a lot of fun using them this week. The elite is gonna be my new go to mindless sipper for tv watching/board game nights.
 

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Yes i recieved them and love them both very much! I am a milaana collector and use a dna mod with a splinter so i havent really felt any learning curve with either of them.
RE: the regular lil bud, The lack of glass is interesting compared to a milaana, it definitely heats up quicker and produces huge clouds with less technique, but its harder to maintain the heat for a longer hit and the vapor is definitely drier and a little woddier on the lil bud.
RE: the elite, ive been absolutely loving this unit. Ive been having trouble getting it to produce big clouds, which is strange because i feel like its easier than a mi on the regular lil bud. While it may not be a ripper, it is an exceptional sipper. I find i can get a long session of really tasty clouds if i just set it to 390 on temp control and hit it until the vapor stops. I havent fucked around with the other mod settings yet, maybe thatll help my big cloud problem. Either way i love both of these vapes and have had a lot of fun using them this week. The elite is gonna be my new go to mindless sipper for tv watching/board game nights.
What wattage are you running at that temp? I typically run my Timber elite at 38W @ 340*. Usually a decent cloud on the first draw, with 5-6 to finish the bowl. Generally, I don’t temp step or stir, but I do rotate the stem.
 

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What wattage are you running at that temp? I typically run my Timber elite at 38W @ 340*. Usually a decent cloud on the first draw, with 5-6 to finish the bowl. Generally, I don’t temp step or stir, but I do rotate the stem.
Mine is set to 50W. I havent touched the settings since I bought it.
 
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50W but with high temp you need to draw very quickly tho.. with iHeat 510 it's dangerous going 50W (same heater, no glass) .. better make it 44W MAX..
Ok, although ive been having trouble gstting big or even really hot hits with it at 50w so im not too worried about it burning the bud.
 
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Ive been having trouble getting it to produce big clouds
I agree with you at 390TCR, it's more tasty than cloudy, i probably need to practice. It's my favorite temp with my Fw7 but i guess it's a little bit different between a conduction vape and a convection vape?
I havent fucked around with the other mod settings yet, maybe thatll help my big cloud problem
The "booster mode" @28w works great
 

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I agree with you at 390TCR, it's more tasty than cloudy, i probably need to practice. It's my favorite temp with my Fw7 but i guess it's a little bit different between a conduction vape and a convection vape?

The "booster mode" @28w works great
Thanks for the heads up! The booster mode has totally fixed my ripper vs sipper problem, now this vape does it all! Ive been using the elite a ton, something about the combination of its form factor and versatility has made it my new daily driver.
 

Duba

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The booster mode has totally fixed my ripper vs sipper problem
This mode is indeed appreciable even if I regularly have a "hot spot" that appears in the middle of the bowl, don't you?
Whatever settings I do for the moment, Wat or TCR, I have this hot spot. I haven't found the balance point yet, should I change the ohm settings?
Could someone explain to me the links between temperature, ohm, wattage? It would be very appreciated.
 

Razhumikin

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I definitely have a hot spot on wattage mode but dont have one on TCR. Something I've noticed from my vast collection of full convection vapes is that hotspotting is more often caused by a clogged screen than anything else, so that should be your first step in troubleshooting. I personally wouldnt touch the resistance (ohms), and would just keep it to what the device is labelled with under the battery cover. You can certainly play around with wattage though.
 
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I definitely have a hot spot on wattage mode but dont have one on TCR. Something I've noticed from my vast collection of full convection vapes is that hotspotting is more often caused by a clogged screen than anything else, so that should be your first step in troubleshooting. I personally wouldnt touch the resistance (ohms), and would just keep it to what the device is labelled with under the battery cover. You can certainly play around with wattage though.
To add, the distance your load is from the heater makes an impact as well. Further away tends to allow the hot air to collect together before hitting the material. I try to keep all my loads as close as possible to the heater for this reason.
 

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To add, the distance your load is from the heater makes an impact as well. Further away tends to allow the hot air to collect together before hitting the material. I try to keep all my loads as close as possible to the heater for this reason.
it means full charge, isn't it

You can certainly play around with wattage though.
My best results to avoid hot spot are at 25w without pre-heat in "power" mode (watt)
 
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Hello there,

I have an issue with my LBClassic :
It doesn't want to heat up anymore when it never did before, battery is ok (i tested with other one of course).
The first time, 2 days ago, it didn't heat up and then all of a sudden it started working again, but not for long.

Where could the problem come from? the button? the heater (hard to believe).

Does anyone here know how to disassemble it and how to test the button? or test the button without disassembling? Or to do some others usage checks first? which ones?

I used it everyday and it worked perfectly, now I'm bummed and need some advice, thanks in advance!
 

el sargantano

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The battery compartment hides the screws that hold the two halves.
You can reach the button compartment beyond a loose wooden layer, and get acces from this side to disassamble it.
But before that try to clean the contacts of the battery, unscrewing and running them through a cleaner or ultrasonic device.
If this doesn't work my schedule would be:
Check the button with its wires, with new ones, unscrew the button, chrck it, dismantle the half in oven/heaters quarters and check the heater.
Because are you sure your batteries are working fine, aren't you?
Make photos please
 
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thanks for your answer. To be precise, in reality it's not completely out of order because it heats up once in a while, it looks like a connection issue indeed. The connections look clean (see pictures).
I'm sure my batteries are working fine. The loose wooden layer is on the photo? Is it nor fixed?
Could the button have a short circuit problem?

 

el sargantano

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They look pretty clean indeed.
Could them be a bit loose when tou insert the battery and it bounces between them? Not enhancing full contact.
I've faced it so many times with mine. Try to bend them GENTLY with a screwdriver to strenght the grip on both battery poles.
Edit: a con of a ready-to-vape portable in your pocket is clearly this issue about bouncing heavy battery while walking will bend the connections over mileage.
 

Duba

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Try to bend them GENTLY with a screwdriver to strenght the grip on both battery poles.
I tried this before to post but unfortunately, it's not the answer (i never use it outside, it never stay in my pocket).

I really don't want to take it apart for fear of doing it wrong or putting it back together again, but I have a feeling I'm going to have to.
Fortunately, the design is pretty simple and despite my limited skills, I should be able to get through it...I hope
 
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