Ispire Wand, enail&vaporizer

[eyevape]

I’m new to the Wand, using it to heat a mechanical vape. I wonder if it’s advisable to turn it off when it’s sitting on my desk all day, being used occasionally. The battery display is weird anyway, so from my short usage I can’t tell if always-on drains the battery much. Do you long time users ever turn off your Wands?

 

[bluepom]

I’m new to the Wand, using it to heat a mechanical vape. I wonder if it’s advisable to turn it off when it’s sitting on my desk all day, being used occasionally. The battery display is weird anyway, so from my short usage I can’t tell if always-on drains the battery much. Do you long time users ever turn off your Wands?

The battery display is from an unknown dimension, just ignore it.
With good batteries you should get 50+ heat ups of a Dynavap. I just throw it on charge during the day for an hour or so, never runs out. I've had my Wand for 3+ years, no issues with daily use.

 

[budski]

I never bother to turn mine off, doesn't seem to drain when left sitting, Great stoner friendly feature.

 

[Riik]

The battery display is from an unknown dimension, just ignore it.
With good batteries you should get 50+ heat ups of a Dynavap. I just throw it on charge during the day for an hour or so, never runs out. I've had my Wand for 3+ years, no issues with daily use.

I've had a Wand for 2 years and never turn it off. It has an auto off after few secs, seems to work fine.

 

[ClearBlueLou]

As the still-proud owner of (now-dead) Skeleton & Flux Deluxe, I recently acquired a Wand; memorizing the manual still leaves me w/ questions. Answers are scattered all over, so here: a thread specifically for getting the most & best out of the new gear - DynaVap (& -alikes), and dabbing.

I may be in a legal state, but house rules explicitly state “none o‘ *that* in the house”, so I will have to go somewhere (less legal) to speak on the Wand’s dabbing skills). This post will cover 3 days w/ flower & wax.

The Wand is serious business: by itself, it makes you look like you have a weapon or vibrator in your pocket; it is large (8x2x1” roughly), and it is heavy. It’s also cheaper than the other IHs. General impression of lasting sturdiness (but I hope I don’t drop it much!)

Operation is straightforward: 5 presses on the big button for on & off, ‘on’ greets you w/ ‘iSpire’ & version # on the small display, along w/ the current (last) temp setting. The 2 small buttons are for UP TEMP (top) & DOWN TEMP (bottom)

To heat: VapCap into the included adapter, press & hold big button until it’s ready to hit, release button, release button.
That’s manual mode.

Auto mode, is 2 presses on the big button (TBB), turns on blinking light in the heater well; insert VC, remove to hit. It will time out before I get done w/ a hit, making auto better for sharing than for reheating

Simple…but: what temperature for *what*?

Here’s where things stop being so simple.

Not knowing where to start, I chose 420F: it took a long time. I saw & smelled (flower) vapor escaping before the cap ever clicked. Second heat was same but ok, third heat gave me charcoal. VC used for flower was the Lockdown Omni, full-bowl, loose-pack

Switched to Lockdown M for wax. Temp = 710F (h/t to 710 Coils). Again, heard it sizzling, saw/smelled vapor, pulled before click, got 2-3 good hits. Second heat gave weaker results even after waiting for cap click. Wax amount ~3x the states official ‘wax starting point’ (ie, not much)

First conclusion is that ‘going for a quick lift’ is not a simple thing; second, I’ll have to get used to waiting, and get used to pulling it early; third, figuring out temp settings is CRUCIAL

It sure seems like it’s just not as aggressive as I’m used to (FD would click a fresh bowl in 5-7 sec), but that isn’t necessarily a fault; @TST, getting the temp settings bracketed feels like the way to avoid guesswork & waste.

If anyone has worked out temperature ranges that play well with the cap click, please post them here, w/ commentary.

Also, anyone using their Wand for bangers, etc, please stack up some experience here for us to learn from & add to, in turn

 

[anome]

Given how this device works, I think most useful would be a simple table providing how entered temperature translates to time; maybe to both finished indicator, as well as lights out.

C	F	Seconds to Blink	Seconds to Lights Out
X	Y	Z	Z+D

could delete that second column as no one uses that archaic scale any longer

 

[badbee]

As the still-proud owner of (now-dead) Skeleton & Flux Deluxe, I recently acquired a Wand; memorizing the manual still leaves me w/ questions. Answers are scattered all over, so here: a thread specifically for getting the most & best out of the new gear - DynaVap (& -alikes), and dabbing.

I may be in a legal state, but house rules explicitly state “none o‘ *that* in the house”, so I will have to go somewhere (less legal) to speak on the Wand’s dabbing skills). This post will cover 3 days w/ flower & wax.

The Wand is serious business: by itself, it makes you look like you have a weapon or vibrator in your pocket; it is large (8x2x1” roughly), and it is heavy. It’s also cheaper than the other IHs. General impression of lasting sturdiness (but I hope I don’t drop it much!)

Operation is straightforward: 5 presses on the big button for on & off, ‘on’ greets you w/ ‘iSpire’ & version # on the small display, along w/ the current (last) temp setting. The 2 small buttons are for UP TEMP (top) & DOWN TEMP (bottom)

To heat: VapCap into the included adapter, press & hold big button until it’s ready to hit, release button, release button.
That’s manual mode.

Auto mode, is 2 presses on the big button (TBB), turns on blinking light in the heater well; insert VC, remove to hit. It will time out before I get done w/ a hit, making auto better for sharing than for reheating

Simple…but: what temperature for *what*?

Here’s where things stop being so simple.

Not knowing where to start, I chose 420F: it took a long time. I saw & smelled (flower) vapor escaping before the cap ever clicked. Second heat was same but ok, third heat gave me charcoal. VC used for flower was the Lockdown Omni, full-bowl, loose-pack

Switched to Lockdown M for wax. Temp = 710F (h/t to 710 Coils). Again, heard it sizzling, saw/smelled vapor, pulled before click, got 2-3 good hits. Second heat gave weaker results even after waiting for cap click. Wax amount ~3x the states official ‘wax starting point’ (ie, not much)

First conclusion is that ‘going for a quick lift’ is not a simple thing; second, I’ll have to get used to waiting, and get used to pulling it early; third, figuring out temp settings is CRUCIAL

It sure seems like it’s just not as aggressive as I’m used to (FD would click a fresh bowl in 5-7 sec), but that isn’t necessarily a fault; @TST, getting the temp settings bracketed feels like the way to avoid guesswork & waste.

If anyone has worked out temperature ranges that play well with the cap click, please post them here, w/ commentary.

Also, anyone using their Wand for bangers, etc, please stack up some experience here for us to learn from & add to, in turn

In case you aren't aware, the Wand doesn't have a temperature sensor, the settings are just mapped to an amount of time that is the manufacturers best guess on how long it will take to heat the dabbing banger from room temp. The temp setting is irrelevant when heating Vapcaps because they heat faster than even the lowest of the temp settings. I usually heat for 2 seconds past the click, maybe 3 if starting with a really cold Vapcap.

 

[dudeguy]

How far would you insert a 2020 Titanium Tip into the Wand? The 5 fins on the Tip are probably nice to figure out the best distance.

 

[Octavia]

How far would you insert a 2020 Titanium Tip into the Wand? The 5 fins on the Tip are probably nice to figure out the best distance.

I usually would insert my ti tip so that the chamber was entirely in the coil, which on my wand would be equivalent to having the fin closest to the chamber / open edge of the cap in line with the lip of the wand

 

[ClearBlueLou]

In case you aren't aware, the Wand doesn't have a temperature sensor, the settings are just mapped to an amount of time that is the manufacturers best guess on how long it will take to heat the dabbing banger from room temp. The temp setting is irrelevant when heating Vapcaps because they heat faster than even the lowest of the temp settings. I usually heat for 2 seconds past the click, maybe 3 if starting with a really cold Vapcap.

Thanks! I *did*search* for a Wand thread & got bupkis

How far would you insert a 2020 Titanium Tip into the Wand? The 5 fins on the Tip are probably nice to figure out the best distance.

I have the adapter set so the entire cap is in the hot zone.

I’m back down to 420*F* & just waiting for the clicks. Oddly, the bowl never seems to fully heat, so still feel like I ain’t got it yet, but will keep trying

 

[badbee]

Thanks! I *did*search* for a Wand thread & got bupkis


I have the adapter set so the entire cap is in the hot zone.

I’m back down to 420*F* & just waiting for the clicks. Oddly, the bowl never seems to fully heat, so still feel like I ain’t got it yet, but will keep trying

Another trick that can help deliver a rich hit is to heat it for 1/2 to 2/3 the normal amount of time (for me that's about 8 seconds from cold), wait a few seconds, and then heat until it clicks. Don't go past the click when using this approach. If you heat the cap too fast there isn't enough time for the heat to redistribute and even out.

How far would you insert a 2020 Titanium Tip into the Wand? The 5 fins on the Tip are probably nice to figure out the best distance.

I heat free hand with no insert and the cap inserted from below the Wand until the cap end is level with the top rim of the glass.

 

[ClearBlueLou]

I'm using a silicone adapter but it's hard to find the sweet spot and I find weed is more burnt on the outside in compare to using butane lighter.
I feel it is because of heating the tip too fast, lowering the power of induction heater would solve this problem.

I think that lowering it by 15-30% would be sufficient.

I am last-week new @ the Wand, so…

That darker-around-the-outside is what tells you you’re heating too fast…not sure if time or temperature is the thing, but have been setting @ 645f & not expecting much from the first three-six heats. Today, fresh bowl, ‘20 Omni, got first vapor on 4th heat, then heating ~2sec after 2nd click, it took 6+ heats to achieve darker-around-the-outside (sip’n’dip) + got 2 more decent hits after stirring

I think next bowl, I’ll pre-heat @710, down to 420 once I’ve got actual vapor, see if it evens out (or something)

In passing, I swapped in a freshly-charged pair of 3000mah(?) while charging the came-with pair (2900) - not likely I hurt batteries/unit, right?

 

[ClearBlueLou]

Another trick that can help deliver a rich hit is to heat it for 1/2 to 2/3 the normal amount of time (for me that's about 8 seconds from cold), wait a few seconds, and then heat until it clicks. Don't go past the click when using this approach. If you heat the cap too fast there isn't enough time for the heat to redistribute and even out.

I heat free hand with no insert and the cap inserted from below the Wand until the cap end is level with the top rim of the glass.

That seems to be the target: how to heat the whole just right

 

[LesPlenty]

got 2 more decent hits after stirring

Try a little less herb in the tip, I never have to stir with the Wand.

In passing, I swapped in a freshly-charged pair of 3000mah(?) while charging the came-with pair (2900) - not likely I hurt batteries/unit, right?

As long as they are 'high drain' decent batteries like LG HG2, Sony VT6, Mollicell, etc, you will be fine.

 

[ClearBlueLou]

Thanks for chiming in, Les - the herb was broken up by hand, so it was lumpy

 

[Petetbay]

VPM is offering the V-Wand with/without bubbler part. I like the form factor and couldn’t get one because Vgoodies doesn’t ship battery devices internationally and wasn’t available in Canada. The MadHeaters Wand stands are great for the Wand though.

Ispire V-Wand | VPM.com

The Ispire V-Wand is an upgraded version of the Wand Dab Kit. It has an all glass air path and wireless induction heating. V-Wand is compatible with DynaVap.

www.vpm.com

 

[2tiki]

How wide of a diameter object can work in the wand? I've watched a bunch of videos, and it seems like it won't work if the object is touching the sides. So if anyone knows how wide the object can be and still heat up, please let me know. Of if you don't know the measurement, but have figured out the widest item is (insert name of type of dynavap or other brand device), please let me know. I have been thinking about some of the ones out there with a larger bowl, but if I get into this style of vape, I'm definitely only interested in induction for the heating method.

Also, does anyone here regularly use the wand for dabs with the set up that comes with the wand? Is it very good at that? I currently am very happy with the Pockety, but it would be nice to have another method for dabs available, if it is good enough at it.
Thanks!

*EDIT: I forgot to ask, does anyone know if the batteries that came with the Roffu will work with the wand? I also have some Samsung 30Q 18650 3000mAh 15A Batteries. Will those work with the wand?

 

[badbee]

How wide of a diameter object can work in the wand? I've watched a bunch of videos, and it seems like it won't work if the object is touching the sides. So if anyone knows how wide the object can be and still heat up, please let me know. Of if you don't know the measurement, but have figured out the widest item is (insert name of type of dynavap or other brand device), please let me know. I have been thinking about some of the ones out there with a larger bowl, but if I get into this style of vape, I'm definitely only interested in induction for the heating method.

Also, does anyone here regularly use the wand for dabs with the set up that comes with the wand? Is it very good at that? I currently am very happy with the Pockety, but it would be nice to have another method for dabs available, if it is good enough at it.
Thanks!

*EDIT: I forgot to ask, does anyone know if the batteries that came with the Roffu will work with the wand? I also have some Samsung 30Q 18650 3000mAh 15A Batteries. Will those work with the wand?

Any 10+ Amp cell will be fine in the Wand. For inserted objects it's not really a question of diameter but of mass. It's a 45 Watt IH and can only generate so much electric field. Some of the chunkier Vapcap style vapes, which fit, don't work because they are too massive. Measuring just diameter won't tell you anything, you have to check for each vape model.

 

[2tiki]

Measuring just diameter won't tell you anything, you have to check for each vape model.

It will tell me one thing. If the item will at least physically fit inside the hole of the wand. LOL! But at least now I understand that mass is also a huge factor. Thanks for explaining about the mass. I had no idea about that. I'd still like to know what the size of the opening is. I have an idea for an attachment to go in the hole, but I need to know it will at least fit in the hole before I buy the wand.

Is there a formula for figuring out what the right amount of mass is? In other words, I can use the CAD program I'm designing my thing in to tell me its mass. Is there a known mass amount range that should work in it?

 

[Petetbay]

How wide of a diameter object can work in the wand?

The top opening is 14.5mm in diameter with about a 3mm deep lip and the bottom diameter is 21.5mm up to the top lip.

 

[badbee]

It will tell me one thing. If the item will at least physically fit inside the hole of the wand. LOL! But at least now I understand that mass is also a huge factor. Thanks for explaining about the mass. I had no idea about that. I'd still like to know what the size of the opening is. I have an idea for an attachment to go in the hole, but I need to know it will at least fit in the hole before I buy the wand.

Is there a formula for figuring out what the right amount of mass is? In other words, I can use the CAD program I'm designing my thing in to tell me its mass. Is there a known mass amount range that should work in it?

Fair enough, it does have to fit. There will be a question of "effective mass" that is influenced by the amount of ferrous vs non-ferrous metals, mass inside the coil and the thermal connectivity of the portion inside the coil with any portion outside of it. Shape and alignment/non-alignment with the electric fields will also have an impact (but probably only for weird non-cylinders). Some of the heavier Vapcap style vapes have been proven not to heat effectively in the Wand. You'll likely need to figure out how that impacts your design through testing.

That doesn't really answer your question but helps move the thinking in helpful directions, maybe?

 

[2tiki]

Fair enough, it does have to fit. There will be a question of "effective mass" that is influenced by the amount of ferrous vs non-ferrous metals, mass inside the coil and the thermal connectivity of the portion inside the coil with any portion outside of it. Shape and alignment/non-alignment with the electric fields will also have an impact (but probably only for weird non-cylinders). Some of the heavier Vapcap style vapes have been proven not to heat effectively in the Wand. You'll likely need to figure out how that impacts your design through testing.

That doesn't really answer your question but helps move the thinking in helpful directions, maybe?

Thanks badbee. Sounds like I am going to have to test it to figure out if it will work. These are the times I really wish I knew someone local that was into this stuff. I can't afford to buy it and have it end up not working. All the local people I know that use MJ, smoke or eat it. I'm the only one I know that vapes it (except for 1 guy that only owns a volcano, but mostly still smokes). I may end up ordering a, less than $30, small induction heater kit and try it with that. At least if it doesn't work, I'm out way less money.

 

[badbee]

Thanks badbee. Sounds like I am going to have to test it to figure out if it will work. These are the times I really wish I knew someone local that was into this stuff. I can't afford to buy it and have it end up not working. All the local people I know that use MJ, smoke or eat it. I'm the only one I know that vapes it (except for 1 guy that only owns a volcano, but mostly still smokes). I may end up ordering a, less than $30, small induction heater kit and try it with that. At least if it doesn't work, I'm out way less money.

Go for it, I used to mod the IH subreddit before it was banned. Those standard kits are 120 W, significantly more powerful than the Wand, more power than is desirable for a standard Vapcap. There is an IH thread here under DIY where you can get lots of advice.

 

[ClearBlueLou]

here’s a couple thoughts re: temperatures

A condition of my legal-state vacation is that I can’t smoke or vape inside; outside, it’s near-zero after dark, and still pretty cold before then. This has caused me to notice that it’s difficult for the wand to get a vapcap tip hot enough for a single hit without burning the materials, even w/ preheating.

Not a fault of the wand - it’s having to do it outdoors

Current temp setting for dynacoil+wax is 730f. No burning, but must reheat after hit w/o waiting for clickdown (or take hits while the cap is still in the wand)

 

[Petetbay]

I picked up a V-Wand and while I like the form factor there are slight changes to the IH chamber that impact the use.
The top opening was reduced from 14.5mm to 13.9mm and bottom 21.5mm to 20.8mm.
Adapters:
This made the Mad Heater Temper adapter a tighter fit making adapter adjustment/insertion/removal harder requiring more force, not a big deal still works.
My Sneaky Pete VC adapter works about same, but not best choice.
The Ispire Wand VC adapter has more problems as glass no longer can be inserted from the top as the opening is now too small and while you can insert thru the bottom you’ll need a spacer as the VC position is too deep(was nice in the wand for adjustment from the top).
The new Dynavap Wand adapter works the best with a glass spacer on the bottom with easy adjustments and wide enough for all devices.
Devices:
The narrower top opening prevents the use of the Anvil as the copper heatsink doesn’t fit anymore as it did in the Wand. edit: even though you can’t heat entirely adding time after the clicks did produce some nice rips.
The TA2 and TA3 also don’t fit in completely as with the Wand where the wider part where the bowl is now prevents that, though the section that needs the heat is located fine, need to test a bit.
Tempest and VCs worked fine.
I placed a foam support at the base to reduce any possibility of tip over and in the pic the Anvil is shown unable to be fully inserted.

https://imgur.com/a/eEnF9cJ