Ispire Wand, enail&vaporizer

David Root

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Was using the wand last ight with a Dynavap. I left it on auto fire. Ater about 3 clicks, when the wand was in, it "achieved temp" Thelight came on steady. I took the cap out of the wand. Put it back and it was still "hot" with the light steady.

When you push or hold the button afterturning iton,it shows 3 temp sensors.

It may be the COIL has achieved temp.

David
 

Riik

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Yesterday we lost George's [DV founder] support for the Wand during insta/TeaTime. It lacked 'control' without the bottom and it is an 'aweful big coil' <paraphrased from recollection>.

I love the variable heat option with the unimpeded chamber of the Wand. Easy to judge the depth, specially if you come in from behind the coil.

Although it does have a big coil, it is what I consider a hot heater due to the ingress depth available with variable depth. I measured it to be a 45 watt heater on a non-descript cap. Stack that up against a 90 watt heater and you heat twice as long at 45 watts for the same energy imparted to the cap. 5 seconds vs. 10.

More realistically, most heaters will come in around 60-80 watts depending on the cap. I will need to get more data from the Wand. Need a 'tuit'.

And again, the Wand exhibits extremely similar behavior between caps. This is where the larger coil works - more forgiving on depth and cap variation at the click. Both positive traits in my book. I'm doing a lot of sippin'n'Dippin' to get that last bake to dark remains. Very convenient with auto heating.

PSA - Did you catch where that in standby firing mode when it is blinking red is a low power feature? Let it blink; very little battery usage going on.

The Wand as to what it was designed for, it is what Orion should have been in performance and finish. So far I like a lot of things about the Wand except that I want to put 18350's in there to reduce the size a bit more. If it indeed remains under 10 amps with hotter caps, this would be something. Listening @Aspire?

Still doesn't beat a Fluxer Flite or Hotshot for pocket worthiness but the Wand is in the running. Top 3 in my collection for sure. Using them all every day. You heard Jeff might be at it again soon, right?

Was using the wand last ight with a Dynavap. I left it on auto fire. Ater about 3 clicks, when the wand was in, it "achieved temp" Thelight came on steady. I took the cap out of the wand. Put it back and it was still "hot" with the light steady.

When you push or hold the button afterturning iton,it shows 3 temp sensors.

It may be the COIL has achieved temp.

David
My understanding is that the wand doesn't have a temp sensor as such but a timer that has been tuned to the concentrate cups. It will heat for the same amount of time either you start from stone cold or a warm one -it assumes you'll start from a cold bowl.
I use the Dynavap's click as my only temp sensor.
Riik
 

TommyDee

Vaporitor
Where did you hear that @Riik ? That doesn't sound right. With a DV is doesn't sense temp but with their cups I am quite certain it is doing some kind of interpolation.
 
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Where did you hear that @Riik ? That doesn't sound right. With a DV is doesn't sense temp but with their cups I am quite certain it is doing some kind of interpolation.
You can observe this by heating a cup to temp and immediately reheating the hot cup, it will heat for just as long as the first time. I think if the wand had a sensor and other smart features it would have been more expensive.
 

Green Kiwi

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Got the 'wand' to ,yesterday, I'm still on a discovery track with it, but so far I am a fan.
it's so nice not to have a torch. I know everybody is different ,and some people like torching, but I found to much of a hassle .and noise, and makes you look like a crackhead. no thank you for me, but with the wand :Yahooo, very nice to use the dyna cap.
 

Oil420FL

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Newbie to dabbing Q: I’m hesitant to buy and am looking for advice Re dabbing (not DynaVap use). The YouTube reviews I’ve seen of dabbing with this show lots of coughing and comments about it being hot at temperatures approaching 600 degrees. Is that true in your experience? If you’re successful at using lower temperatures, is it too cool to be efficient at vaporizing the entire dab?
 

David Root

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Using it mostly for the cap.

Watching the battery indicator, I find it to be pretty good. It drops down about a bar wen its heating which is totally normal. Stop heating and it jumps back up a bar.
Cells read good to 20 amp discharge rate.

As the batteries get towards middle charge, it takes longer to get a click. I pull it out after 25 blinks and its perfect click or not.

If I set it on my metal work bench, it will try to heat it. The red light turns orange.

I put a glove or something between it and the metal work bench.

David
 

stark1

Lonesome Planet
If George believes the Orion v2 better than the Wand then he is madder than I thought.
Did I imagine that?
Love my Wand more than my other two IHs combined, and then a bit more.
Better than a torch.
*runs*

Agree that an induction heater beats a noisy butane; on the other hand if the wand had a smaller form factor, one
Wouldn’t looky here like a complete dork in public. 👀



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angular ocelot

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the wand has reinvigorated my dynavaps.
i was running low on material so went back to my vapcaps, getting a wand has made them a pleasure to use again, along with the homemade titanium condenser inserts i made.
twenty five pulses to click then another three for good luck. then a few three or four pulse reheats.
 

LesPlenty

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I’ve seen of dabbing with this show lots of coughing
I find the dab smooth on the first heat cycle as follows, no coughing,
If I re-heat straight away for the full time to flashing stopping the dab can be too hot and cause me to cough. There is a learning curve to getting the timing right on the second heat up or you could start with a smaller dab I suppose and only heat once, I have a Puffco hot knife coming to help me with loading smaller more measured dabs.
 

Riik

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Where did you hear that @Riik ? That doesn't sound right. With a DV is doesn't sense temp but with their cups I am quite certain it is doing some kind of interpolation.
I read it in a couple of reviews, SneakyPete's comes to mind. You can do the experiment yourself as thegreenmenace says; the wand will heat for the same amount of time either you start from a cold DV or a already warm one, if you keep the time the same you'll probably combust the second time.
 

TommyDee

Vaporitor
I read it in a couple of reviews, SneakyPete's comes to mind. You can do the experiment yourself as thegreenmenace says; the wand will heat for the same amount of time either you start from a cold DV or a already warm one, if you keep the time the same you'll probably combust the second time.
Oh, that would be normal. The VapCap never triggers the internal temperature sensors of the Wand.
 

David Root

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If I use the wand continuous with a vape cap, after a while it will stop blinking.
I pulled the Dynavap out and put it back. Still solid orange light.
I rebooted the wand and it was back to normal. I tried turning the temp up from 375 to 500. Made no difference.

Takes longer as the batteries get used.
David
 

WelshBrok

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thinking out loud a bit but I wonder whether the encased ferrous metal cup approach could be applied to a glass dynavap tip. Something like:
- encased ferrous metal glass tip
- glass cap, maybe with thin bit of metal in a sealed chamber in the top so it still clicks and shallow channels for airflow

that way you could have an induction heated all glass path (other than a screen) dynavap

or even a convection version where it’s a ferrous lined glass heater around the same size as the standard tip+cap with pearls in it, that attaches to the end of the standard tip to draw hot air into the dynavap
 

angular ocelot

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thinking out loud a bit but I wonder whether the encased ferrous metal cup approach could be applied to a glass dynavap tip. Something like:
- encased ferrous metal glass tip
- glass cap, maybe with thin bit of metal in a sealed chamber in the top so it still clicks and shallow channels for airflow

that way you could have an induction heated all glass path (other than a screen) dynavap

or even a convection version where it’s a ferrous lined glass heater around the same size as the standard tip+cap with pearls in it, that attaches to the end of the standard tip to draw hot air into the dynavap
If you are going to have genius ideas you should space them out a bit. coming up with a follow up is gonna be tough after these two beauties.

on a serious note, somebody has to make these happen.
 

im not a robot

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sorry this has probably been asked before - does anyone have reccomendations where to order this in the EU (not UK)? seems on backorder at the few places i know that carry it (like dispensr). and i guess the times when it was possible to get one for around $100 are sadly over?
 

im not a robot

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thanks, i know they have a good reputation, but almost 170€ w/o batteries is too much imo. i have seen offers for 130 british pounds including batteries (but not shipping to continental europe). i might just have to wait for sales coming up..
 
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