olivianewtonjohn
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With my friend waiting ~1.5 years (maybe more I lost track) on a replacement, I will let others "beta" test this one. If it proves to be reliable then maybe.
With my friend waiting ~1.5 years (maybe more I lost track) on a replacement, I will let others "beta" test this one. If it proves to be reliable then maybe.
Can you reduce the amount of thread turns so swapping batteries is easier?The device only has minor exterior changes that are intended to improve usability.
It will have the same "new style" ring cable. The charging speed has been boosted slightly through efficiency gains. Type-C is coming in future products.
The Hopper peeps could have done (maybe they did?) a discreet poll of users in advance of io -- and I'm thinking you could have been a key individual in that pursuit.Can you reduce the amount of thread turns so swapping batteries is easier?
Are you using the same SMD dual LED in the IO?
Could you include a battery level indication? If the red light is used solely for charging indication (because of the 'instant on', which should be straight to green), say if you twisted the temp dial from 5-1-5, the red light could show a pattern indicating charge level? Depends if you can fit voltage detection inside I suppose. I don't know if indication would really be that useful anyway, but it would be a nice addition.
If you can make the clip detach without unthreading the whole back end, it would make a great stoker/scraper. Or simply if the back end disconnected more easily, but there's nothing retaining the battery when it's off, so although the clip works very well as a scraper, I don't use it as one unless I'm really stuck out.
I suspect the ABV will be easier to remove with 221°C max temp usage anyway.
I'm super keen!
Are there any other future products with USB-C that I can look forward to that aren't the HBC?
I agree that the io does sound super. Very much so. Having used super charged Grasshopper V1s (combusting units, and units obviously running @ >210°C) this is going to make some waves.The Hopper peeps could have done (maybe they did?) a discreet poll of users in advance of io -- and I'm thinking you could have been a key individual in that pursuit.
I guess they've had input all along, through the interwebs.
The new io sounds like it could be a super vape. Seems to be a nice refinement/evolution of the design, though I think it is representing just that, a refined OG, not so much an all new product. A lot of previous issues look to be smoothed out; this was the necessity of the time for HL.
My hope, and I think it may be HL's, is that the io is the path leading out of the wilderness and into a sane and stable product and business (= happy hopper family). Almost anyone who has really experienced the working Grasshopper will happily convert the finicky one for the new & improved one, right? And for HL, no more carousel of endless repair. Hey, I said, "hope".
But for the wish list @MoltenTiger may offer, this was not the time. Not enough cash to develop these bigger modifications at this time. Plus we've heard the parts are all done, just waiting for assembly (& batteries).
Can you reduce the amount of thread turns so swapping batteries is easier?
Are you using the same SMD dual LED in the IO?
Could you include a battery level indication? If the red light is used solely for charging indication (because of the 'instant on', which should be straight to green), say if you twisted the temp dial from 5-1-5, the red light could show a pattern indicating charge level? Depends if you can fit voltage detection inside I suppose. I don't know if indication would really be that useful anyway, but it would be a nice addition.
If you can make the clip detach without unthreading the whole back end, it would make a great stoker/scraper. Or simply if the back end disconnected more easily, but there's nothing retaining the battery when it's off, so although the clip works very well as a scraper, I don't use it as one unless I'm really stuck out.
I suspect the ABV will be easier to remove with 221°C max temp usage anyway.
I'm super keen!
Are there any other future products with USB-C that I can look forward to that aren't the HBC?
1. I can deal with that. Can you upgrade my HT unit? Especially interested because that is my favourite unit. With the back end, you mentioned injection molding the temp indicators (?) Is it possible to do this with an old unit to retain the psychedelic finish on the dial?1. We will not be reducing the thread count on the backend at this time.
2. No, there are now a number of LEDs to provide even lighting out of the holes. The color is white, it looks great.
3. There is more feedback on battery state now based around new software modes that allow "low power mode" so you can keep vaping longer.
4. There are future products with Type-C coming
1. We will not be reducing the thread count on the backend at this time.
2. No, there are now a number of LEDs to provide even lighting out of the holes. The color is white, it looks great.
3. There is more feedback on battery state now based around new software modes that allow "low power mode" so you can keep vaping longer.
4. There are future products with Type-C coming
Personally I agree completely. If users want to add cooling, that’s easily done in a number of ways.There is no direct cooling added to the mouthpiece. Cooling of the vapor has been a topic of discussion for a long time. It has always been our goal to make the device as efficient as possible. Cooling the vapor from the Hopper would be a step in the wrong direction. If the vapor is cooled it will begin to condense and return to a semisolid state preventing inhalation of the constituents. Those constituents present themselves as gummy/oily build up in other devices and you never see any benefit from them.
Short, hot vapor paths yield the highest extraction efficiency which gives you more "effect" per draw, more bang-for-your-buck on your herbs, and allow you to use the device for a shorter session to achieve the same results.
Perhaps we will build an additional cooling mouthpiece in the future but we do want the stock device to deliver as much of the product as possible.
There is no direct cooling added to the mouthpiece. Cooling of the vapor has been a topic of discussion for a long time. It has always been our goal to make the device as efficient as possible. Cooling the vapor from the Hopper would be a step in the wrong direction. If the vapor is cooled it will begin to condense and return to a semisolid state preventing inhalation of the constituents. Those constituents present themselves as gummy/oily build up in other devices and you never see any benefit from them.
Short, hot vapor paths yield the highest extraction efficiency which gives you more "effect" per draw, more bang-for-your-buck on your herbs, and allow you to use the device for a shorter session to achieve the same results.
Perhaps we will build an additional cooling mouthpiece in the future but we do want the stock device to deliver as much of the product as possible.
Non the less I would recommend a extra cooling mouthpiece designed by the heads of hopperlabs... when most of the people using glass, bubblers and other things to cool hopper vapor... the efficient short vapor path is not important... it is one if the selling points of ghost vaporizer and people are happy with it... I want a cooling mouthpiece or I would not buy a hopper again...There is no direct cooling added to the mouthpiece. Cooling of the vapor has been a topic of discussion for a long time. It has always been our goal to make the device as efficient as possible. Cooling the vapor from the Hopper would be a step in the wrong direction. If the vapor is cooled it will begin to condense and return to a semisolid state preventing inhalation of the constituents. Those constituents present themselves as gummy/oily build up in other devices and you never see any benefit from them.
Short, hot vapor paths yield the highest extraction efficiency which gives you more "effect" per draw, more bang-for-your-buck on your herbs, and allow you to use the device for a shorter session to achieve the same results.
Perhaps we will build an additional cooling mouthpiece in the future but we do want the stock device to deliver as much of the product as possible.
No more red & blue? What’s the new lighting scheme?2. No, there are now a number of LEDs to provide even lighting out of the holes. The color is white, it looks great.
Is anyone still actually giving Grasshopper $s?Well let's kick things off then shall we . . . ?
Release date is currently set to April 2020 and it appears that preorder reservations are still available for $99 here:
https://www.grasshoppervape.com/store/product/electric-blue-grasshopper/
I know I'm definitely looking forward to this . . . . so I guess I may as well settle in and enjoy the ride.
ThisYou'd have to be out of your mind to pre order the IO considering the history of this company.
Make me eat my words hopperlabs
Yep.Is anyone still actually giving Grasshopper $s?
definitely happy with my purchases so far, and the next version is going to be awesome. People will still be giving money to companies who sold out to big investment dealers, who end up releasing products that are very questionable and causing serious potential health detriments. At least when the GH malfunctions it simply stops working as desired, and that's that. Plenty of models out there aren't performing desirably, who could care if they never fail if they're no good to begin with. I may have become jaded in my third year since any hopper troubles but.Is anyone still actually giving Grasshopper $s?
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definitely happy with my purchases so far, and the next version is going to be awesome. People will still be giving money to companies who sold out to big investment dealers, who end up releasing products that are very questionable and causing serious potential health detriments. At least when the GH malfunctions it simply stops working as desired, and that's that. Plenty of models out there aren't performing desirably, who could care if they never fail if they're no good to begin with. I may have become jaded in my third year since any hopper troubles but.
I give so much more money to my weed man, and I'm happy to do it. A few bones thrown towards tech that allows me to get the most out of more significant expenditure merely represents small change in the grand scheme of things. My hoppers have processed many ounces over many growing seasons at this point.
If I didn't have working units and had been further caught up after long waits for RMA and on top had to wait for the fire situation to resolve, I would definitely be hesitant to pre-order another unit, however I'd be more put off trying to find a viable alternative for my usage.
The io is going to be the best portable unit by a significant margin, and I would be surprised if it has as many teething issues as the original hopper considering it is very similar, just massively upgraded. I'm still stoked with my OG retail backer hopper.
The GH is an upgrade, for my usage, over any available portable model, so the only unit that will actually beat it is the io when it is released. So how could I not pre-order? That would be crazy.
I have been fortunate to have avoided the periods where things were particularly bad. Buying units in 2015, 2016 and 2018 was a good choice, late 2017 was a bad year for new units and I avoided that, which was lucky in a sense. I bought again in 2018 to get the new HL made heater, to take advantage of 35% off, and to get a pimped out HT unit, it seemed like a safe bet considering all that's been disclosed.You must have extraordinary luck. I was an original early bird backer and had ten rmas within a year. At least half of those were dead on arrival. And I'm no outlier. I truly don't believe you have had a working hopper for 3 years. If so, it has been in a drawer the entire time.
Maybe pages and pages of horror stories would be a good incentive to not preorder? Seriously. Just a few posts earlier and someone was talking about a 1.5yr rma request that has been unfulfilled. ONE AND A HALF YEARS. But they are sorry lol (insert South Parks we're sorry meme) Completely unacceptable. Do you just put the blinders on and gloss over those posts? You really think that won't happen to you? Mind boggling.
Attach to waterpipe? Or turn the power down and follow the instructions here: https://www.grasshoppervape.com/information/tips-and-tricks/ - namely #3.
"3. Take Short, Firm Draws
Other vapes require a slow and steady draw that lasts between 30 and 90 seconds. This type of draw is not ideal for the Grasshopper. The Grasshopper comes equipped with a very powerful 45-watt heater, a microcontroller to monitor temperature in real-time and a very short vapor path. Its design allows for quick and easy vaporization. Your draw should be faster than with other vapes and last 15-20 seconds. Near the end of your draw, click the device off to allow for all the vapor and warm air to be cleared from the chamber. For longer sessions consider a PFE and 14mm-18mm adapter to use directly on the device or through a bubbler. "
I can use my 'hopper on max temp with even the standard mouthpiece with no issues.
@Hopper Labs - are you referring to the HBC when you say future products will use USB-C, or are there other things planned?
Do you have any pics you can share of the white light? I'm really curious to see how that looks!
Joining you guys and gals from the main HL thread. Howdy -
No more red & blue? What’s the new lighting scheme?
Those of us who like to use our Hopper in the dark at night want to know