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They haven't been ruined but you're taking a chance. I swap batteries after every bowl, but I have four of them.
Batteries that have gone into "sleep" from over-discharge can be brought back to life with the right charger, but the one that ships with the FV can't do this. Most if not all of the common 18650 chargers that cost under $50 don't have this capability. Also, if the battery has been sleeping for more than a few days then internal changes make it unwise to try to revive them.
OF
Well-Known Member
Not all such batteries 'go to sleep' (disconnect to self protect), some just die instead. The protection boards, when used, impact performance and are generally avoided in extreme power applications like this for that reason. I don't have mine handy to check, but I think the S2 batteries are not protected? If so, they really are dead.....not just 'playing possum'.
Full discharge is to be avoided, prompt recharge recommended. Leaving them in a drawer 'fully discharged' can be second cousin to just throwing them out.....and it takes longer.
OF
The FV high drain cells are unprotected cells, which means that they do not have an internal circuit breaker to cut off current when voltage drops below (or in some cases, charges above) a certain point. This is because in high drain situations, voltage fluctuation is huge, and circuit protection will make the battery useless min high-drain application where voltage drop is high, such as in the FV.
Fortunately, with today's advancements in Li-ion technology, cells which are designed specifically for high drain applications, like both the 3.2v and 3.7v the FV cells, are perfectly safe to use without this voltage protection circuit. They are designed to handle the huge voltage drops while under high load.
PPN
Volute of Vapor
Hi FV, I bought some month ago a black unit, my unit die 1 month later but you send me a replacement unit.
The re^placement work really fine the first days and afetr the unit "calm down" and now it don't produce vapor(exactly like my first one).
What is happening with my units?
I think that i try to get a refund...bye bye Flashvape
The re^placement work really fine the first days and afetr the unit "calm down" and now it don't produce vapor(exactly like my first one).
What is happening with my units?
I think that i try to get a refund...bye bye Flashvape
OF
Well-Known Member
No worries, just give us the address and where the stash is, we'll send someone by to check for you. Teamwork you know.......
They are not as 'fool proof' as the protected ones. Not only is there concern about killing them with over discharge (they're still vulnerable, just less so) but also the lack of OV cutoff makes them venting in the wrong charging conditions a real threat......or they wouldn't mess with the extra cost of protection boards.
The "Safe Chemistry" batteries used here have sacrificed capacity for the high current and lack of absolute need for PCBs. Compromises. It's also worth noting you can buy the same sort of batteries with PCBs (for lower current needs) for which there's an obvious advantage.
In the absence of the automatic discharge protection board, the duty of protecting the battery falls to the owner. Don't deep discharge them if you want them to last and perform.
FWIW I understand it's the electric car market that's driving most of this. They too need lots of steam in a hurry, only on a much larger scale. They use by the thousands what we use by dozens. And you'll note that if your Tesla charge gets too low, the car "bricks". This means self discharge (the cars always on power loads) has let the battery discharge even after the controller shuts the motor load down (it takes a couple of months for this to happen, 'just sitting'). The car then has to be lifted up onto a trailer (the motors are in the wheels, you can't tow it) and trucked in for a battery replacement, which I think is something like $50,000. It's happened to several owners already. How'd you like to leave your fancy electric sports car at LAX to come back from vacation to a stone dead car? It's common enough to have picked up the 'bricked' nick name. It could be worse.
OF
PPN
Volute of Vapor
I think that I can replace the heating screen because I think that it's the issue but where could I buy one,
french website don't sell it.
Perhaps it's possible to move it but I want to be sure os what I must to do before to try it.
The dark room test is bad (no red part) except a really little point (the unit heat but not enough to vape)
Could you explain to me what canI do to restore my FV performances.
Many thanks for your future answer
french website don't sell it.
Perhaps it's possible to move it but I want to be sure os what I must to do before to try it.
The dark room test is bad (no red part) except a really little point (the unit heat but not enough to vape)
Could you explain to me what canI do to restore my FV performances.
Many thanks for your future answer
Vapodudule
Well-Known Member
May be try to replace the heatind screen you have since, the contact is only bad at the copper roads and the HE is not defective?
OF
Well-Known Member
Bummer, man, but you're not the first to do this. While no problem is much better, this one has a simple and fairly cheap solution. And is easy to avoid in the future now that you understand it?
Best wishes.
OF
Here's a picture of the empty bowl with the S2 spacer in place:
Thank you for the picture!
I like this because of it's bowl size. If the vaporizer is in s2 mode, could the bowl alternatively be filled to the brim and vaped with occasional stirring?
I like this because of it's bowl size. If the vaporizer is in s2 mode, could the bowl alternatively be filled to the brim and vaped with occasional stirring?
Sure, but I don't think it would work that well. I think the maximum workable load is around half full, which would keep me pretty messed up for a few days. I'm not sure how much that would be, and I don't have access to my FVs right now to measure it. I do know that the bowl completely filled holds 7.65 g of salt, and with the S2 spacer it's 6.97 g. There's a thread here called Bowl size... taken with a grain of salt... that explains why I'm giving you the capacity in grams of salt.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
I'm still experimenting and I tried bubble hash that doesn't fully melt in my Flashvape. I tried a couple big pieces, and it stained the screen, but didn't stick. I thought I would go all out and cover the screen with it. Big mistake. This screen is ruined. 
My bubble hash is not full melt.
My bubble hash is not full melt.
ru_frothi
Portable Vaporist
I'm still experimenting and I tried bubble hash that doesn't fully melt in my Flashvape. I tried a couple big pieces, and it stained the screen, but didn't stick. I thought I would go all out and cover the screen with it. Big mistake. This screen is ruined.
whats ruined?
just clean the screen. I guess I'm confused as to what the issue is. looks like a dirty screen after I get done with hash. nothing to get excited about.
I'm still experimenting and I tried bubble hash that doesn't fully melt in my Flashvape. I tried a couple big pieces, and it stained the screen, but didn't stick. I thought I would go all out and cover the screen with it. Big mistake. This screen is ruined.
Hi Vicki, are you using S2 power with the BH? ... please check PM. thanks!
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
That mess is really stuck on there. I haven't had a chance to give it an ISO soak yet, so maybe I can still salvage it. I'm not holding my breath that it will come completely clean, though. As soon as this happened, I freaked out!
Yes, I am using the S2 kit with the BH. Checking PM now.
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FV 3PC TOOLSET PARTS IDENTIFICATION
1) Remove the old filter screen by removing the glass lens from the swivel cap, and pressing downwards on the edge of the filter screen along the inside edge of the vape chamber to remove the old filter screen and o-ring.
2) Place the tool #1 (largest diameter piece) of the 3 pc toolset inside the swivel cap, so you see the empty channel where the screen’s raised edge sits inside of.
3) Lower the new filter screen down into the channeled slot, the raised edge going down into the channeled slot. The cylindrical tool #3 can be used to gently press down on the filter screen to ensure that it is flatly seated in place.
4) With the new filter screen correctly positioned in the channeled slot, remove tool #1 from the swivel cap to prepare for placement of the o-ring.
5) Place the new o-ring on the edge of one end of the cylindrical tool #3, and place the tool upright, the end with the rubber o-ring attached on the bottom. Now slide tool #1 and tool #2 over the cylindrical tool #3, so that the o-ring around the edge of tool #3 stops the other two tools from sliding off tool #3.
6) With the 3 pc tool set assembled and loaded with the new rubber o-ring on the bottom, gently place the assembly into the swivel cap, and when it hits the bottom surface where the filter screen is positioned, press down on the sides of tool #2 so that the edge of the tool slides the o-ring off of the cylindrical tool #3 and into the channeled slot, securing the filter screen firmly in place.
7) Now you can remove the toolset from the swivel cap, and your new filter screen should be perfectly installed!
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ru_frothi
Portable Vaporist
That mess is really stuck on there. I haven't had a chance to give it an ISO soak yet, so maybe I can still salvage it. I'm not holding my breath that it will come completely clean, though. As soon as this happened, I freaked out!
Yes, I am using the S2 kit with the BH. Checking PM now.
ISO cleans the screen just fine. mine have looked way worse than that and cleanup nicely.
why freak out its a screen. thats what screens look like after vaping bubble.
life is good be happy.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
Because I just got this vaporizer!
It's brand new, and I didn't want to do anything to ruin it.Because I just got this vaporizer!
Its a pretty durable unit, so no worries there
I know the feeling though