hinglemccringleberry
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Whoa, someone actually makes one with a carb hole? Sign me up!grazie paisan
Dynavap VapCap
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I have a lucid metal wall powered induction heater, its great, I really love it. 150.00 I still think is way too much for a fancy dancy lighter. I am not cheap I will buy what I want, but I'm not gonna get beat when there are other options cheaper and just as good. I understand there is big demand for these things, but this one is twice the price of the dam dynavap m for gods sake!
Hackerman
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I am really liking my latest iteration of the VapCap. Ever since George emphasized the importance of the airport, I have been only using stems with an airport.
In this one, I used some of the tubing that Alan from iHeat turned me on to. And, a simple, straight 9mm cooling stem. I like the extra length. I like the feel of glass. I like being able to see the vapor and how it changes with the feathering of the airport. The tube/sleeve also acts as an insulator, since I am, pretty much a chain smoker and the regular metal VapCaps can get pretty hot. The tube very comfortably connects the glass stem and the M.
Showed me yet another way to use the M. So much enjoying the smooth and tasty hits I'm getting from this extra length. Kudos to George for explaining the real purpose and function of the airport.
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In this one, I used some of the tubing that Alan from iHeat turned me on to. And, a simple, straight 9mm cooling stem. I like the extra length. I like the feel of glass. I like being able to see the vapor and how it changes with the feathering of the airport. The tube/sleeve also acts as an insulator, since I am, pretty much a chain smoker and the regular metal VapCaps can get pretty hot. The tube very comfortably connects the glass stem and the M.
Showed me yet another way to use the M. So much enjoying the smooth and tasty hits I'm getting from this extra length. Kudos to George for explaining the real purpose and function of the airport.
https://ibb.co/j8mMwwB
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Ramahs
Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Hey everyone I had a lot of pages to catch up on. What? DV hasn't released the IH yet?!?
First, my 2 cents on the Hydravong. While not super innovative or a game changer, I like it much better than the last design. I think it feels really good in the hand, spins super well and looks cool. Do you need it if you already have a Vong? if you are a collector, yes. If you dont already have a Vong, yes. If you already have one, you can probably live without it.
I have been really distracted by my sudden, massive improvement in my mental and physical health since my surgery. I'm feeling like my old self again, getting out on the bike on a regular basis and trying not to spend to much time in front of the computer.
And just for fun. Talk about getting your back up!!
That's what I need to do...get back to my bicycles. I've been lazy, taking an Uber/Lyft to work way too often lately.
Though, It's quite hot this time of year It's not unheard of for it to be well over 90F at night
Make your own then. You can make it yourself for a third of that or less.
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stark1
Lonesome Planet
@Ramahs you must be deep in the South, I just woke up because it got a bit cold without
A blanket!
Bikes, and super portable VapCap, go hand in hand; and hand to mouth. Etc. Haha.
Time today to pedal my sorry ass butt to the LPS (Local Pot Shop). & visit my bud at the LBS (Local Bike Shop).
3dfx-glide
Boats & Harbors
All this talk George had, over how complicated they are to get right and safe, etc, and that's why they're taking their time, just to end up using someone else's design?
One of the things that really attracted me to the Dynaverse is that everything used to be designed by them. When they announced they're working on a grinder some months back, I was really excited. But they just ended up being a reseller for Herb Ripper, which as far as I'm aware is the most expensive grinder out there designed for weed in mind, maybe only beat by Lift by a few dollars? I was hoping they would do something simple and stylish and functional, that pair well with the VapCap. Something like the MFLB finishing grinder with a a magnet on top with a grind that is 100% optimized for the VapCap
Idk, I though they were going to do something unique again, with their own flair and their own spin. I guess this qualifies, since the case looks way cooler (actually really really digging it, minus the other company's logo. I don't want to be a billboard for random companies) than the metal housing of the Lucid Customs they sell direct. But I thought they were going to go the extra 10 miles again
edit: being far too cynical. I'm sure George changed/redesigned the electronics of it to suit the DV best, and just teamed up with Lucid for advice and other manufacturing reasons. But still for sure not buying it though, I love the manual use of the VapCaps and using a single flame torch where you're in complete control is totally what sold me on it in the first place! Same reason I bought a manual transmission in the US vs automatic.
Plus like @david8613 said, these things are ridiculously expensive for the simple job they do, imo. I don't understand the demand for it one bit! Why not just go directly for a battery powered portable vaporizer then?
One of the things that really attracted me to the Dynaverse is that everything used to be designed by them. When they announced they're working on a grinder some months back, I was really excited. But they just ended up being a reseller for Herb Ripper, which as far as I'm aware is the most expensive grinder out there designed for weed in mind, maybe only beat by Lift by a few dollars? I was hoping they would do something simple and stylish and functional, that pair well with the VapCap. Something like the MFLB finishing grinder with a a magnet on top with a grind that is 100% optimized for the VapCap
Idk, I though they were going to do something unique again, with their own flair and their own spin. I guess this qualifies, since the case looks way cooler (actually really really digging it, minus the other company's logo. I don't want to be a billboard for random companies) than the metal housing of the Lucid Customs they sell direct. But I thought they were going to go the extra 10 miles again
edit: being far too cynical. I'm sure George changed/redesigned the electronics of it to suit the DV best, and just teamed up with Lucid for advice and other manufacturing reasons. But still for sure not buying it though, I love the manual use of the VapCaps and using a single flame torch where you're in complete control is totally what sold me on it in the first place! Same reason I bought a manual transmission in the US vs automatic.
Plus like @david8613 said, these things are ridiculously expensive for the simple job they do, imo. I don't understand the demand for it one bit! Why not just go directly for a battery powered portable vaporizer then?
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That’s the beauty of Dynavap, you can choose how you want to heat it.
martinstraka8282
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Perfect example of different strokes!
I have been holding off Dynavap and only jumped in because of IH's. I also despise driving a standard. Not because I can't, but because it doesn't thrill me at all and is just a pita aspect imo.
I have been holding off Dynavap and only jumped in because of IH's. I also despise driving a standard. Not because I can't, but because it doesn't thrill me at all and is just a pita aspect imo.
Vape weed everyday
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Anyone in UK who is selling induction heater shout me please.
If you are good at making them I'll pay for parts and labour.
If you are good at making them I'll pay for parts and labour.
star_particles
Member
Amen to this. Did the same. And am very happy with my dyna brick and lotus combo. One for easy on the go and micro. One for on the go and macro. And quicker extraction.
And one for the best flavor and vapor quality. That I can sip or torch up nice and hot.
caliganja420
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Definitely wont be interested if it’s just a lucid customs heater with no collaboration from dynavap? Just marketing it? Lucid just removed the mini induction heater from his website, which was $200. Extremely overpriced, it outrages me. It only lasts 5 bowls max
I don’t know what the hell is going on here but if it’s only wall powered, even bigger turn off for me. Hope they get they shit straight
Baron23
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YOu get five out of yours? I haven't run it to dead, but I have only run 4 bowls through my Mini before recharging. It may be my imagination, but once I get down below the green and yellow lights on battery charge, it seems as if performance drops....but again, completely subjective and biased by my experience with other Li battery powered vape devices.
Definitely wont be interested if it’s just a lucid customs heater with no collaboration from dynavap? Just marketing it? Lucid just removed the mini induction heater from his website, which was $200. Extremely overpriced, it outrages me. It only lasts 5 bowls max
I don’t know what the hell is going on here but if it’s only wall powered, even bigger turn off for me. Hope they get they shit straight
Now, as to DV designing their own....they a basically mech engineers and a machine shop. They are not an electrical design and manf firm. I would have def gone out to an electronics design firm for design and contract manf for manufacturing (but qtys may be well too low for this...but there are a LOT of electronic device contract manf out there)
We will see what comes of it, but if its a bog standard Lucid, then I think DV missed the boat. I, and I believe many others, were looking for a truly professional and feature rich job resulting in a durable product with long battery life.
notlow
Active Member
They've also been "working on it" for over 18 months, so they had ample time to find some electrical engineers and manufacturers. I don't know what the "difficulty" would have been over such a long time if they just end up reselling lucid customs IHs.
@Vape weed everyday get in touch if you'd like to piggy back the @Pipes order I'll be making.
@Rollingstoned and @Baron23 where you aware of the short run times on the Lucid mini?
I'd have been seriously disappointed with 4-5 bowls.
These things are power hungry and to get decent battery life out of them you need high amp outputs and a higher voltage.
Pipes lead the way and he's the one with the most experience in the IH market.
After finding reliability issues with the Chinese stuff he decided to strip each board and rework them.
I'd imagine sales are easily in triple figures. 10-15 bowls off the Lipo and silly figures from the triple 18650.
I get the disappointment in this not being a true 'Dynavap' product.
I also understand but don't understand why DV has taken this route.
Electronic equipment can be a pain in the ass to get onto the market, testing, build quality and litigation all play a big part in it.
Plus the hassle of a CE certification.
What I don't understand is why they didn't persue their own cup design. Under the lid there were no signs of it being made by another IH maker.
The grinder is another thing and IMO a CNC machine shop selling another companies product confuses the shit out of me. They could have been making VC specific grinders that fit nicely over the bowl.
Time and staffing probably played a part in it.
2 more days vacation and it's back to Blighty. There is a 40 stem order going out to everyone's favourite high altitude US retailer so if anyone wants to see a specific design get in touch.
@Rollingstoned and @Baron23 where you aware of the short run times on the Lucid mini?
I'd have been seriously disappointed with 4-5 bowls.
These things are power hungry and to get decent battery life out of them you need high amp outputs and a higher voltage.
Pipes lead the way and he's the one with the most experience in the IH market.
After finding reliability issues with the Chinese stuff he decided to strip each board and rework them.
I'd imagine sales are easily in triple figures. 10-15 bowls off the Lipo and silly figures from the triple 18650.
I get the disappointment in this not being a true 'Dynavap' product.
I also understand but don't understand why DV has taken this route.
Electronic equipment can be a pain in the ass to get onto the market, testing, build quality and litigation all play a big part in it.
Plus the hassle of a CE certification.
What I don't understand is why they didn't persue their own cup design. Under the lid there were no signs of it being made by another IH maker.
The grinder is another thing and IMO a CNC machine shop selling another companies product confuses the shit out of me. They could have been making VC specific grinders that fit nicely over the bowl.
Time and staffing probably played a part in it.
2 more days vacation and it's back to Blighty. There is a 40 stem order going out to everyone's favourite high altitude US retailer so if anyone wants to see a specific design get in touch.
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Baron23
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HI Piggie - hope all is well with you and yours.
So, I just took a look at our email correspondence with Chris of Lucid (who was very pleasant to deal with) and didn't see any battery capacity projections so I went to his website and wow, what a surprise.
All he sells now is a larger, rough metal looking box, called the Atlas. I presume this is in anticipation of using DV as the retail outlet for his heaters??
In any case, on the site it says: "I typically get 20-25 clicks off of each charge. It recharges to full power after about an hour of charging."
So yes, four or five bowls which, quite frankly, ain't enough.
I have a Mini (not made anymore) and Chris indicated that you do need some level of battery charge and that it doesn't do pure pass through. Mine is indeed a battery operated with charger and not a wall plug desktop unit.
Whatever DV and Lucid have some up with, I would strongly suggest that they follow Flux by incorporating much larger battery capacity. I don't mind plugging it in...for me, its basically a home unit, but it is very nice to be able to take it to different rooms in the house and not worry about plugging in (as well as for travel).
My optimum would be two or three 18650 WITH full pass through so you can just plug it in and have it work without regard for battery charge level.
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I will be extremely disappointed if they just slapped the Dynavap name on an existing Lucid Customs design. And if it’s plug in only, forget it. I already have a plug in IH. Between the flashlight holder that isn’t smell proof, reselling herb rippers, and now potentially this, it seems like Dynavap is starting to slip (some might argue the Hydravong is another slip, I like it though).
flammy
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My wall powered Cauldron IH only cost $95 (inclusive of shipping and IIRC, less if you're in the Great White North)....no offense at all to Lucid and his work but I would agree that $150 for that is a bit much considering the alternative options available. Additionally, I think calling it a fancy lighter might be undercutting the usefulness of an IH. I think its great that the Dynavap can be powered by a torch lighter but I think its freaking awesome that it can be powered by an IH as well. Makes for easy back to back hits and also simpler for a friend without much experience to use. Value is subjective but for me, I could not give up my IH...it's just too easy and convenient.
I can understand why they decided to outsource the IH as well. To be fair, an IH is a fairly simple concept and there wasn't a lot of room for improvement to begin with. The only things that I can think of that I would like would be to have included would be adjustable power output (IIRC Fluxer has that option now) and an auto-off after click. This said, we have no idea at this point whether there will be additional features that perhaps makes this IH a little more appealing than meets the eye. I certainly hope so.
As with you, I was a bit confused over the decision to just resell the Herb Ripper vs. designing a grinder themselves especially given their in-house machining capabilities.
Ooh...new stems headed over this way? I've always loved your twist designs FWIW.
If I had to wager, they probably won't come out with a portable unit. I imagine that they might want to stay away from user replaceable batteries due to liability concerns.
As I mentioned, I have a plug-in unit that cost me $95 with shipping. I have several of @Pipes heaters and all have worked great so far.
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I’ve heard tales of George at trade shows with an IH that looked like a big cup, it was portable and George would run around heating Vapcaps from it and offering them to people. What happened to that prototype?
always liked those cup designs...
was that a Zelda logo on the that dyna vap induction heater?
don't care too much if its a rebranded lucid, a lot of stuff in rebranded now a days. just don't go crazy with the price and make it portable.