My_50p_worth

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I too was using old undated OG caps (not a huge fan of their new caps, they have done something with them🤔), mainly used one that clicks then clicks 7 seconds later, do that to the second click in the caldron or PSM and shite wispy Vapour every time, do the exact same with torch to the second click and it’s fat hits even from cold, very visual difference can be seen using a bong. Torch blasts a dyna bowl in 2 bong hits (perfect for me) dark brown avb, IH’s took me more than 6 bong hits to get avb that wasn’t even that brown (took the piss for my needs). Torch all the way for me🔥✊.
here’s the first bong hit with a single flame torch on a cold tip and the 7 second late clicker cap, using the vong (I), nice and fat.
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Can tell you’re a budget boi with the sports direct Slazenger hoodie, I’ve got a few knocking around myself :rofl:

How do you find the vong tip for extraction? I know you like to torch it similar to me so you’re probably best guy to ask. I’m tempted to pick up the ‘21 vong but my old spiral Ti tip wouldn’t extract evenly without the low temp cap and don’t wanna frustrate myself with another failed attempt to join team Ti hahah
 
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Green Kiwi

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Just wanted to add that their induction heater absolutely sucks, although most do. Bummer that in the EU the options are limited to Chinese crap, a maker that can’t be trusted due to mental health issues or the Dynabox, which performs worse than it looks inside.

The Dyna IH market is definitely still incredibly immature.

the handmade alternatives can mostly only compete on price or cache.
I'am happy to build for you,
but possibly just follow @TommyDee , tread on the d.i.y. IH heater.
heaps cheaper, and you are in charge of how soft or aggressive you like the heating.:2c::leaf:.
 

Shorner

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See I’m the total opposite!

I find the DV has a rather playful aspect to it that encourages experimentation, whereas the tiny might for example is a very workmanlike vape that gives you exactly what you want with total consistency
Im the same as you ,i think the Dynavap is great it's my favourite vape and ive tried most of the expensive so called best ones..
 

My_50p_worth

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Im the same as you ,i think the Dynavap is great it's my favourite vape and ive tried most of the expensive so called best ones..
Oh absolutely, I’ve had a Tinymight which is a great device but I’d take a DV over it any day of the week

Honestly the only thing I prefer to a DV performance wise is the Anvil, it’s pretty much the same size yet it absolutely rips in comparison. Like it’s not even close when you rip them side by side

I can imagine a lot of the big bong rippers on here owning one in a year or so. Anyway I’ll shut up now as this is turning into an Anvil sales pitch :rofl:
 

Shorner

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Oh absolutely, I’ve had a Tinymight which is a great device but I’d take a DV over it any day of the week

Honestly the only thing I prefer to a DV performance wise is the Anvil, it’s pretty much the same size yet it absolutely rips in comparison. Like it’s not even close when you rip them side by side

I can imagine a lot of the big bong rippers on here owning one in a year or so. Anyway I’ll shut up now as this is turning into an Anvil sales pitch :rofl:
That's fine , ive wanted a Anvil for weeks but no UK vendors and i don't like ordering overseas since brexshit
 
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My_50p_worth

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That's fine , ive wanted a Anvil for weeks but no UK vendors and i don't like ordering overseas since brexshit
Oh man if that’s what’s putting you off I wouldn’t worry

I’m from the UK too, ordered mine direct from Vestratto. Came exactly 7 days after he sent it, no customs charges or any Brexit BS (it’s being shipped from Canada who aren’t EU anyway). Think it cost me £220 altogether for the anvil, case, and the shipping - so not much more than an omni from Vapefiend here. Would be about the same cost if you don’t get a case

Only slight negative is the guy put all the details of what it is on the package. It’s legal under our paraphernalia laws until the herb touches it, but obviously if you live with parents or something be cautious.

If you wanna chat about it more PM so I don’t derail this thread any more and get a mod slap :rofl:
 
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Demonic chronic

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Can tell you’re a budget boi with the sports direct Slazenger hoodie, I’ve got a few knocking around myself :rofl:

How do you find the vong tip for extraction? I know you like to torch it similar to me so you’re probably best guy to ask. I’m tempted to pick up the ‘21 vong but my old spiral Ti tip wouldn’t extract evenly without the low temp cap and don’t wanna frustrate myself with another failed attempt to join team Ti hahah
Not in a budget at all (own many roors, just sold my volcano. All not cheap) and I vape the best quality bud I can get, don’t feel the need to wear Gucci or the likes, no need to take the piss bud. With this cap I’ve got i clear a bowl in 2 hits every time Thru water with the vong (I), ordered a new standard cap for it but that cap was tame, so put the old late clicker on and it performs very similarly to my old omnivong.
 
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Farid

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Well i dont understand the hype about DV in general,such a boring "vaporizer",but here we are quite the rainbow as it comes to vaporizer preferences,so to each their own,lol.

Out of curiosity which DV do you own? Because there's a world of difference between the early gen 1/2 and the gen 3 and after. I had the beta TI woody and it was a proof of concept at best. But then I gave the gen 3 a chance and it was like a totally different experience.

Also not sure what makes you think its not a true vaporizer, since it very clearly doesn't combust. Hell I have a much easier time combusting with a log or other on demand convection vape than a DV.

I understand if it's not your thing, but it most certainly is a vaporizer...
 

Demonic chronic

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Oh no don’t worry man I wasn’t taking the piss haha, guess it’s hard to read the tone when it’s words on a screen and not face to face

So it doesn’t leave any spots in the middle that aren’t as roasted as the outside?
Ah its all good, not that I’ve noticed, always seems evenly vaped, and I check how vaped my bowls are after my 2 hits.
 

My_50p_worth

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Ah its all good, not that I’ve noticed, always seems evenly vaped, and I check how vaped my bowls are after my 2 hits.
Ah perfect, I know it weighs a little more than the old 5 fin so thought the extra mass would help even out the roast


I think I’ll have to pick up the 2021 vong and try for myself, will be nice to have that built in 14mm taper so I can use the same piece with my Anvil and DV :D
 

Demonic chronic

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Ah perfect, I know it weighs a little more than the old 5 fin so thought the extra mass would help even out the roast


I think I’ll have to pick up the 2021 vong and try for myself, will be nice to have that built in 14mm taper so I can use the same piece with my Anvil and DV :D
Aye takes longer to heat the extra mass in the tip than the old 5 fin for sure, but then so did the new omni tips, but I done a test the other day and you know those lil aomai torches, I got 19 bong hits heating this tip with the late clicker cap till it ran out of gas:lol:, also if you don’t like it anything dyna sells quick from previous experience.
 
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Smokey McVape

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Ah perfect, I know it weighs a little more than the old 5 fin so thought the extra mass would help even out the roast.
I find that I only get uneven heating when using an Induction heater and always have. Heating using a torch means that only 1 side of the bowl is directly heated and by rotating while heating the side that isn't being directly heated cools a little as the heat permeates through the bud, this on/off heating technique leads to longer heat up times but full, even extraction. With Induction heaters the entire bowl is heated evenly on all sides which gives shorter heat up times but leads to unevenly cooked loads that are often still green in the middle and require stirring (I own a PSM, Cauldron and Orion).
 

Farid

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I find that I only get uneven heating when using an Induction heater and always have. Heating using a torch means that only 1 side of the bowl is directly heated and by rotating while heating the side that isn't being directly heated cools a little as the heat permeates through the bud, this on/off heating technique leads to longer heat up times but full, even extraction. With Induction heaters the entire bowl is heated evenly on all sides which gives shorter heat up times but leads to unevenly cooked loads that are often still green in the middle and require stirring (I own a PSM, Cauldron and Orion).

I agree, this is often an issue with tighter bowls. But have you ever tried packing very loose (like no tamp, and not filling the chamber all the way, so the bud can get mixed around when inhaling)? I've never gotten any unevenness with a loose pack.
 

fogbank

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Can you leave the VC in until the click with any of those setups?

As in, could I pass it to a friend and have them get repeatable hits instantly with no technique?

That’s what I search for with IH, true foolproof operation.

So far in the UK I’ve only found the wand and vapoven with pulse/pwm/whateveritscalled to do this

@Demonic chronic yeah man the cost is a shame as it really is great. If it was closer to £100 I think it would be a much easier sell for most
In all of my "setups" I get a click on each heating cycle. That's how I time the cycles - by the number of seconds (flashes) of heating past the click.

I could not pass it to someone else with no technique. The heaters are not really adjustable, it's the technique that is adjusted. I could pass it to someone and have them follow the technique for that tip and heater combination.

I was not impressed with the Wand for the VC. It seems inefficient to me to have such a large coil heating such a small device. The closer the coil is to the material being heated the more efficient the heating is. The Wand has a much larger coil than any IH made for VCs that I've seen. I also don't like having to manually control the position of the VC in the Wand. I tried the DV adapter but the cup was too deep, resulting in the stem being heated, so I would have to manually control the depth during heating. I know that the Wand is popular for VCs, it just wasn't for me.

With the UFO and the Black Shadow I can stick the VC in the heater all of the way and not have to worry about the depth. Just listen for the click and count the flashes. Plus, as an added bonus, both the UFO and the Black Shadow work pretty well with the Anvil.
 

Demonic chronic

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I find that I only get uneven heating when using an Induction heater and always have. Heating using a torch means that only 1 side of the bowl is directly heated and by rotating while heating the side that isn't being directly heated cools a little as the heat permeates through the bud, this on/off heating technique leads to longer heat up times but full, even extraction. With Induction heaters the entire bowl is heated evenly on all sides which gives shorter heat up times but leads to unevenly cooked loads that are often still green in the middle and require stirring (I own a PSM, Cauldron and Orion).
Exactly the same for me, every induction heater I’ve used leaves it green in the middle, use a torch and it’s evenly vaped every time for me. Team torch✊🤣
 

Abysmal Vapor

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Out of curiosity which DV do you own? Because there's a world of difference between the early gen 1/2 and the gen 3 and after. I had the beta TI woody and it was a proof of concept at best. But then I gave the gen 3 a chance and it was like a totally different experience.

Also not sure what makes you think its not a true vaporizer, since it very clearly doesn't combust. Hell I have a much easier time combusting with a log or other on demand convection vape than a DV.

I understand if it's not your thing, but it most certainly is a vaporizer...
I dont really know which one is it ,i think it is 2017 - 2019 tip it has double spiral channel and no cuts on the top rim. Also have observed Dynavaps of some local users. Cap gets heated to combustion temps,polymerized oils and debris on the cap and outside the tip combust. I can clearly taste it ,even if i am not inhaling and am just around someone who is using . Same is true for many other vaporizers,that have shit getting on the coil which combusts on heatup.
My question to you is what makes you think dynavap doesnt combust stuff,even though it doesnt combust your load. Yeah sure with a squeeky clean tip and cap,it doesnt has combustion byproducts in the mix.
Try cleaning with some alcohol dipped q-tips inside the cap and outside of the tip and you will find evidence.
Also i wanna add that i have very sharp senses unlike most humans, i am somewhere on the level of my cat ,if i have to judge accordingly. For most people it is not a problem.
Also that it has been discussed before in other threads that you might remember.
 
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My_50p_worth

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It seems inefficient to me to have such a large coil heating such a small device. The closer the coil is to the material being heated the more efficient the heating is.

See I hear this repeated fairly often, yet in practice there is no difference in the end result for me. Seems to heat as fast as an IH tuned to a similar insertion depth, and I don’t notice any hotspots or the like. It is true on paper though, I used to be quite OCD about having the DV perfectly centred before I realised it didn’t make a difference. Maybe the efficiency loss presents itself as reduced battery life? You probably know more about these IH’s than me

You’re also correct about the wand and the manual centring, it also makes it difficult to use in the dark but I’m sure you can imagine that haha.

For me it is a strength (on demand adjustability for any tip) but it of course has a cost (user friendliness, difficulty using in the dark)

I think a VHB carbon with someone tuning it for them is the best setup for an IH noob. The Sense will be even easier again provided it works as claimed on release

Plus, as an added bonus, both the UFO and the Black Shadow work pretty well with the Anvil.
I think it was also you that mentioned this in the Anvil thread, I’m very interested in getting another UFO to try with Anvil. It worked great on DV when you’d get a technique going, but I’m a simple man with simple needs :lol:

@Smokey McVape

Without trying to blow my own trumpet (apparently you need to remove ribs for that) I’m a pretty accomplished torch user as well as IH. Yet for some reason these 5 fin tips absolutely hate me. I don’t think I’ve ever got a full even roast from one, I’ve been through a few of them now and it’s always the same. Every other tip and cap I’ve tried, I can get it to do what I want if I’m given a few days to learn the quirks of said setup. Got any tips?
 
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Cap gets heated to combustion temps [...]

If your caps combust while heating you're going too far.


[...] polymerized oils and debris on the cap and outside the tip combust.

Do they actually *combust*? I doubt that. Anyway, cleaning those kind of residues with a toothbrush and some toothpaste removes it entirely.

Also i wanna add that i have very sharp senses unlike most humans, i am somewhere on the level of my cat ,if i have to judge accordingly.

Oooohkay. Interesting.
 
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