I am still using my original vong cause the custom ones I make dont make it through customs...ironic.
my GAS can't be helped however
got these accessories for my trusty walnut 14mm vong:
A new Clipper Jet lighter and this Black Leaf Swiss cheese perc/precooler
nice diffusion, I use it in this mini beaker I got with da whip
and man, that Lighter is real nice...
it was only like 8 bucks but it feels like a fancy pen.
The can of gas 3 bucks, lasts very long.
Single flame, smallest setting...smooth af
am very pleased with it, and it has a 2 year guarantee lol just in case
Update: just ordered lifetime supply (the minimum I could order of each) for $12.31 including shipping. Will report back results.Fullfiling your o-ring needs!
FKM is has an A-rating for ISO resistance so I feel better about leaving them in the alcohol while I clean/milk my stem. FKM also is the most FDA approved silicone for its strength, and its tear and water resistance.
FKM (ISO resistent, 230 C max):
Tip O-rings - [here](https://www.oringsandmore.com/fkm-o-ring-6-x-1mm-minimum-25-pcs/)
Condenser X-rings - [little](https://www.oringsandmore.com/fkm-x-rings-size-007-minimum-2-pcs/) & [big](https://www.oringsandmore.com/fkm-x-rings-size-008-minimum-2-pcs/)
Silicone (Non ISO resistent, 260 C max):
Tip O-rings - [here](https://www.oringsandmore.com/silicone-o-rings-6-x-1mm-minimum-10-pcs/)
Condenser X-rings - [little](https://www.oringsandmore.com/x-rings-3-68-x-1-78mm-minimum-10-pcs/) & [big](https://www.oringsandmore.com/x-rings-4-47-x-1-78mm-minimum-10-pcs/)
Not that I don't like or trust OEM, I just love the whole customizability of Dynavap and like to choose the material of my possessions. The red color might give it a nice look or do nothing at all. If I ever find the FFKM o-rings I'll update.
Concerning the difference in heat resistance, as long as you don't apply direct heat to the FKM, I'm sure it is safe. But let's be honest, direct flame to OEM o-rings will eventually end the same way. I'll keep update with anything relevant.
Sources:
Material comparison chart - [https://www.allorings.com/o-ring-ma...ww.allorings.com/o-ring-materials-comparison)
FDA approved rubber materials - [https://www.nes-ips.com/the-best-fda-approved-ru...](https://www.nes-ips.com/the-best-fda-approved-rubber-materials/#:~:text=We've chosen four of,you narrow down your choices.&text=Known more commonly by its,and do not absorb water)
the left is what I've come to know as the Gen1 tip. The one on the right was a quiet redesign. Not sure what product they were introduced with.Just got my Back to school sale Stuff. The free 2019 M was added to my package. I am a bit confused but also pleased. The Ti tip I received appears to be the old style Ti tip pictured here on the left. The new version of the Ti tip is on the green stem on the right. Maybe just old stock? View attachment 12302
Gen1 is a way more elegant descriptor. For no particular reason, other than I like the looks, I prefer the Gen 1 but I don’t have any complaints about Gen2s. I am trying to get more into my various SS tips. I’ve been neglecting them. I just threw a ‘19 on a Winegums stem and love it.I've come to know as the Gen1 tip
Hey welcome to the joint, err forum @OadslugI was doing a search for dynavap o-rings and came across this post on Reddit by user u/leortrades. Thought I would share. Cannot vouch for info, but plan on ordering some, and will report back. Hopefully he doesn’t mind me quoting him. Apologize for the formatting.
Thanks. I was hoping someone would come along and set the record straight! Much appreciated. When you say burning o-rings is toxic, is Viton any less toxic? Are the stem o-rings also Viton? Thanks.Hey welcome to the joint, err forum @Oadslug
leotrades seems a bit confused.
"FKM is has an A-rating for ISO resistance so I feel better about leaving them in the alcohol while I clean/milk my stem. FKM also is the most FDA approved silicone for its strength, and its tear and water resistance."
The OEM o-rings are Viton which is the premium FKM formulation, (type 5 I think, not positive)
1)FKM is a fluorocarbon based material, it is not silicone, they are two completely different compounds.
2)The FDA does not approve products for strength, tear and water resistance.
most FDA approved nonsense, wtf does that even mean.
If you got generic FKM they should be affectively as good as OEM and much cheaper, as are OEM Viton when bulk purchased.
Burning fluorocarbon elastomers fumes are extremely nasty, They may contain hydrogen fluoride which on contact with moisture (maybe your moisture) produces hydrofluoric acid, not your friend.
Conclusions;
Do not burn you o rings!
George/Dynavap's choice of o ring material was excellent.
Bulk purchases are often cost effective.
Hydrofluoric acid is not your friend, it's not you it hates practically everything.
user u/leortrades is some guy on the internet.
Cheers
So, here is my NSHO. I have been using VC since 2014 or so and I have never burned an oring. The end of the cap is a full 1/2" from the one oring that is exposed at the tip joint so it is unlikely to accidently be under the torch. And, even if you managed to burn one, the "smoke" would not be in the air path as it is outside the tip itself. As we don't (usually) heat the VC while in our mouths but instead usually in our hands in front of us (or in a IH) we are unlikely to inhale anything produced from that accidental burning of the oring. Or so it seems to me.Thanks. I was hoping someone would come along and set the record straight! Much appreciated. When you say burning o-rings is toxic, is Viton any less toxic? Are the stem o-rings also Viton? Thanks.
I've bought a Ti tip a few months ago (through a vendor though) and received the left version. I'm starting to think that they went back to the original design.Just got my Back to school sale Stuff. The free 2019 M was added to my package. I am a bit confused but also pleased. The Ti tip I received appears to be the old style Ti tip pictured here on the left. The new version of the Ti tip is on the green stem on the right. Maybe just old stock?
Viton is brand name for a premium FKM so the same potential exists.Thanks. I was hoping someone would come along and set the record straight! Much appreciated. When you say burning o-rings is toxic, is Viton any less toxic? Are the stem o-rings also Viton? Thanks.
As a side, I noticed that the new VonG tip (and omni?) only have the two o-rings, which both fit inside the stem when assembled — and thus presumably more protected from possible direct flame. I’m wondering if this is a mildly safer setup to avoid potential toxic fumes? Not that I’m terribly concerned, as neither configuration is in the vapor path. Just my brain spinning.
I agree but since u/leortrades said But let's be honest, direct flame to OEM o-rings will eventually end the same way. I would be remise in not mentioning burning FDM is dangerous, hydrofluoric acid is very nasty. Don't inhale, don't get it in your eyes or on your skin.we are unlikely to inhale anything produced from that accidental burning of the oring. Or so it seems to me.
Gen1 is a way more elegant descriptor. For no particular reason, other than I like the looks, I prefer the Gen 1 but I don’t have any complaints about Gen2s. I am trying to get more into my various SS tips. I’ve been neglecting them. I just threw a ‘19 on a Winegums stem and love it.
Any idea where to find o rings for the Simrell Stinger?
But off topic but I’m in the market for a new grinder (for no reason), I’m currently rocking a space case but been looking at a Santa Cruz shredder, anyone who’s used both how do they compare while being used for vapes etc?