Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

[UncleJunior]

word, checked it out.. they have a nice little Vape Case cheaper than amazon.. but the rest of the products, specifically the actually vaporizers, are about the same price of all the other vape sites I looked at.

crafty is $340 there, but no tax which is cool.

 

[purplenurple24]

word, checked it out.. they have a nice little Vape Case cheaper than amazon.. but the rest of the products, specifically the actually vaporizers, are about the same price of all the other vape sites I looked at.

crafty is $340 there, but no tax which is cool.

Puffitup often has discount codes. Got my Crafty for 20% off a few weeks ago, but that may have been for 4/20. I know they give discounts pretty regularly though.

 

[UncleJunior]

yea looks like they've got a 15% off discount going now.. thats pretty good. but it doesn't look like they can beat this ebay sellers prices http://www.ebay.com/usr/allstarwhlsales?_trksid=p2047675.l2559, https://www.yelp.com/biz/allstar-vape-pomona

not tryin to step on anyones toes, nor am I affiliated with this business.. just thought I'd pass on the knowledge.

 

[purplenurple24]

yea looks like they've got a 15% off discount going now.. thats pretty good. but it doesn't look like they can beat this ebay sellers prices http://www.ebay.com/usr/allstarwhlsales?_trksid=p2047675.l2559, https://www.yelp.com/biz/allstar-vape-pomona

not tryin to step on anyones toes, nor am I affiliated with this business.. just thought I'd pass on the knowledge.

Not stepping on my toes. I'm new here so not familiar with the rules, but, personally, I'm not affiliated with anyone. I just like to give recommendations for businesses that go above and beyond what is "normal" these days.

 

[Mr. Me2]

yea looks like they've got a 15% off discount going now.. thats pretty good. but it doesn't look like they can beat this ebay sellers prices http://www.ebay.com/usr/allstarwhlsales?_trksid=p2047675.l2559, https://www.yelp.com/biz/allstar-vape-pomona

not tryin to step on anyones toes, nor am I affiliated with this business.. just thought I'd pass on the knowledge.

I suggest you call piu before you purchase elsewhere. Let them know what you want and the price you've seen. PIU is very competitive and may meet or beat it (or sweeten the pot with other goodies). Plus, there's a lot to be said for buying from an authorized retailer.

 

[ade848]

I have accepted a Mighty upgrade for the Crafty, thanks for the advice guys
...think my Vape line up is getting there now

 

[grokit]

I mailed my crafty to s&b last week, it was basically in perfect condition even though it is over a year old. It only has <20 hours on it, but the usb port stopped working. I am hoping for a new unit, but don't want to pay for a new battery because the hours are so low. If I have to pay, I would rather try out a mighty.

 

[HellsWindStaff]

I mailed my crafty to s&b last week, it was basically in perfect condition even though it is over a year old. It only has <20 hours on it, but the usb port stopped working. I am hoping for a new unit, but don't want to pay for a new battery because the hours are so low. If I have to pay, I would rather try out a mighty.

How many bowls per charge were you at with that time? I'm kinda eying a crafty up but the shitty battery life (so I hear) is what detracts me. If I can get 3-4 per charge I'll ultimately be a happy camper

 

[Mr. Me2]

How many bowls per charge were you at with that time? I'm kinda eying a crafty up but the shitty battery life (so I hear) is what detracts me. If I can get 3-4 per charge I'll ultimately be a happy camper

I get 3 per charge

 

[vapviking]

How many bowls per charge were you at with that time? I'm kinda eying a crafty up but the shitty battery life (so I hear) is what detracts me. If I can get 3-4 per charge I'll ultimately be a happy camper

You'll get 3 to 4 bowls on average. Then after some months of use it will be about 3.
Consider a Mighty. It's circuitry charges its' two batteries faster than Crafty charges one on usb, then it proceeds to give you minimum twice as many bowls before next charge is needed. And each of those bowls will reach temperature faster than a Crafty bowl. Controls on-board, no finding phone to make adjustments... the list goes on.
If size of the piece is the only consideration, Crafty wins. Just about every other way, Mighty outshines. I have been hoping to hear some better stories from owners of latest Crafty versions, faster heat up times, etc., but the battery seems to keep being the weakest attribute of this otherwise stellar vape.

 

[HellsWindStaff]

You'll get 3 to 4 bowls on average. Then after some months of use it will be about 3.
Consider a Mighty. It's circuitry charges its' two batteries faster than Crafty charges one on usb, then it proceeds to give you minimum twice as many bowls before next charge is needed. And each of those bowls will reach temperature faster than a Crafty bowl. Controls on-board, no finding phone to make adjustments... the list goes on.
If size of the piece is the only consideration, Crafty wins. Just about every other way, Mighty outshines. I have been hoping to hear some better stories from owners of latest Crafty versions, faster heat up times, etc., but the battery seems to keep being the weakest attribute of this otherwise stellar vape.

Have had my Mighty almost a year and it is still kicking strong! Never had to warranty it, and can get 5 bowls per charge (was able to get 6 when I got it) at 395. Simply was kind of looking for something with a smaller profile.....does seem like the Crafty would be a step back in many respects.

 

[grokit]

Yes about three bowls, but I usually put it back on charge after one or two. It starts to overheat after two bowls back to back, definitely want to wait before vaping that third bowl. That's the biggest issue for me, is it's not much better than a grasshopper for passing around in a group. Now that I have a GH the mighty's attributes have become more appealing, as I don't have a need for the stealth of the crafty anymore.

 

[HellsWindStaff]

Yes about three bowls, but I usually put it back on charge after one or two. It starts to overheat after two bowls back to back, definitely want to wait before vaping that third bowl. That's the biggest issue for me, is it's not much better than a grasshopper for passing around in a group. Now that I have a GH the mighty's attributes have become more appealing, as I don't have a need for the stealth of the crafty anymore.

Considering one Mighty bowl is usually enough for me (and a group if I'm out) this all bodes kind of well for me personally

 

[vapviking]

Considering one Mighty bowl is usually enough for me (and a group if I'm out) this all bodes kind of well for me personally

My bias is that I had three Crafty's (max 4 month life) before getting the Mighty. I did love that thing, but heavier use pattern made Mighty a better fit. Sounds like it will suit your purpose and compliment Mighty just fine.
I've come to look at both of these like they're on a two year lease; that's my expectation of lifespan (read=warranty), and with luck maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised -- especially if I can hone the ol' soldering skills...

 

[Dweez]

How many bowls per charge were you at with that time? I'm kinda eying a crafty up but the shitty battery life (so I hear) is what detracts me. If I can get 3-4 per charge I'll ultimately be a happy camper

I find that I get anywhere from 5-6 bowls per charge, but that is if I'm using it by myself. With two or more people, the battery goes really fast.

I had my first unit for about 7 months before I had to send it in, but I got a brand new unit within a week of sending my busted one out. I'm intrigued by the reports that the mighty is a better unit, but honestly I love my crafty (flaws and all) and hope that they fix all of the issues in the coming years because the size makes it incredibly stealthy and easy to carry in my pocket. Also, the lack of physical buttons isn't a big deal, I never have to change my temperature settings so it doesn't really matter.

 

[cloudsosmoke]

i was reading somewhere on S&B site
they designed mighty first..then decided to make it a little brother ..for stealth
so battery/display had to be sacrificed

which i guess is what everyones saying ..its only really worth getting for maximum stealth

tho thats exactly why ive got it

edit

Btw
dont all lithium batteries last about 500 recharge cycles?
(..im no expert)

 

[ade848]

My Crafty to Mighty Upgrade arrives tomorrow...direct from S&B Europe.

I have a number of Crafty C.U's free to anyone who wants them....

 

[Razshiro]

My Crafty to Mighty Upgrade arrives tomorrow...direct from S&B Europe.

I have a number of Crafty C.U's free to anyone who wants them....

The Crafty CU's fit perfectly in the Mighty and you can make a muzzmod for bong .... so keep them !!

 

[ade848]

Whats a muzzmod? seen it mentioned...

 

[vapviking]

Whats a muzzmod? seen it mentioned...

Ask again in the Mighty thread!
Idk if many Crafty users use muzzmod? Sure, it will fit and work fine, but frequent high temps sessions might be a recipe for Crafty disaster.
Muzzmod (see @elmomuzz ) lets you eliminate the c/u (except for its mounting point) and makes a virtually direct male glass connection on top of Mighty's or Crafty's heat chamber. Also see adapter from Vapefiend in UK, though reportedly not without it's own flaws...

 

[ade848]

Ask again in the Mighty thread!
Idk if many Crafty users use muzzmod? Sure, it will fit and work fine, but frequent high temps sessions might be a recipe for Crafty disaster.
Muzzmod (see @elmomuzz ) lets you eliminate the c/u (except for its mounting point) and makes a virtually direct male glass connection on top of Mighty's or Crafty's heat chamber. Also see adapter from Vapefiend in UK, though reportedly not without it's own flaws...

Thanks...I am an ex toker who's never really been into the bong thing...used to prefer to rolll a joint and just smoke that, also as the kids were growing up, a bong just looks wrong in the house

I dont have a problem with vapor heat...however i have bought the Budgie bubbler and trying to get used to that with Vapefiends adaptor...not sure i am using right though!!!

 

[vapviking]

Thanks...I am an ex toker who's never really been into the bong thing...used to prefer to rolll a joint and just smoke that, also as the kids were growing up, a bong just looks wrong in the house

I dont have a problem with vapor heat...however i have bought the Budgie bubbler and trying to get used to that with Vapefiends adaptor...not sure i am using right though!!!

I rolled joints for over half a lifetime, was never into bongs and only occasionally a pipe. Transition to vaping was immediate for me (about 3 yrs ago, bless you Pax Labs), but the biggest hurdle was having to use a device at all. Now farther down the vaping trail my older lungs appreciate the moisture brought by the water: with combustion, bongs help cool and filter the smoke. With vaping, dryness is more the issue.

My understanding is that the Vapefiend adapter's screen is some distance from the chamber & materials. Fill the void with oil pad on top of load? And do not overtighten!

And oh, yeah, those kids are a pita, til they're older. Kept finding their bongs lying around! (well, once...).
Mine are adults now, and I've got Grasshoppers on pre-order for them!

*Apologies for wandering off topic. Please see the myriad other threads that focus on some of this!

 

[cloudsosmoke]

..also if you want to use both bubbler + c/u (rather than instead of c/u)

these slide on mouthpiece and fit bubbler
budgie is 14mm connection so you could get either the 14mm or the universal

http://delta3dstudios.com/portable-vaporizer-accessories/crafty-vaporizer/
EDIT universal fits mighty too

the guy who does them is on FC



personally with crafty ive gone from dry to bubbler and then back to dry (like some others) - the c/u is very good all on its own ..but water is there if i want
in fact i mostly use budgie with the plenty instead of cooling coil because i dont really like long vapor paths/whips



my latest technique when im using budgie bubbler..

i keep it immersed in a handy small plastic bucket filled with ice cold water and ice packs which i stir occasionally

every few puffs i just detach bubbler and put it under the water
then lift it out vertically after few secs and let it self drain over bucket
then i take quick pull to settle water level then wipe with absorbent cloth ( dont want drips freaking me out and spoiling the fun)
then reattach - now with newly chilled glass and water ..takes about 10 sec
- good at high temps


btw
theres loads of really useful general stuff if you go to earlier parts of thread

edit (a few words)
and dopefiend adaptor isnt worth using imho - i broke part off crafty with it - it doesnt match very well

 

[ade848]

Appreciate the detail man.

Look forward to testing the Mighty tomorrow, and the Budgie with it

Been using a Hopper since Vapefiend stocked them a couple months back.

Been vaping about 18 months after quoting tobacco....it was always the herb that caused stopped me quitting in the past

 

[Thickheavyvape]

Hey guys whats up i already own a mighty i was wondering would it be worth buying a crafty also whats your guys opinion. How well does the crafty work. How efficient is it. Do any of you guys connect it to a water tool if so how.