SlickHenry

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Can someone explain the differences between the OG and XL. Presumably XL heater is larger so fits 18mm bowls? As far as I can see the OG also comes with a stem for native use but the XL doesn’t? Seems OG would be more versatile as you can also use with Dynavap cooling stems too?

Am debating what one would be best for me as native use would make up most of the use. However, I read that the vapour can be very hot if used this way. What are the best cooling options For stems or hooks? This is my first and likely only log so want to pick The strongest all rounder.
 

Chris@420Eng

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Can someone explain the differences between the OG and XL. Presumably XL heater is larger so fits 18mm bowls? As far as I can see the OG also comes with a stem for native use but the XL doesn’t? Seems OG would be more versatile as you can also use with Dynavap cooling stems too?

Am debating what one would be best for me as native use would make up most of the use. However, I read that the vapour can be very hot if used this way. What are the best cooling options For stems or hooks? This is my first and likely only log so want to pick The strongest all rounder.
The CouchLog features a 14mm heater, while the XL comes with an 18mm heater, requiring approximately 20% more power. The CouchLog bowl has a diameter of 10mm, whereas the XL bowl measures 14mm, effectively doubling the surface area. The XL takes slightly longer to heat up but retains heat longer due to its greater mass.

The CouchLog has a Mouthpiece with a stainless steel herb chamber (14/18mm compatible), while the XL features a wooden herb chamber (18mm compatible). I plan to offer both options for both devices.

For direct draws, the OG is better suited. Cooling in the mouthpiece can be adjusted by adding glass beads or cooling pads.
If you want more cooling check our glasspipes. They work perfect for both devices.

happy holidays!
Chris
 

Pcloudy

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Thank you to everyone who suggested using Camouflet chambers as bowls. I got both regular and XL this Black Friday and wish I'd bought a couple more. It's everything I hoped a Woodscents would be with a Dynavap, before I discovered its restricted airflow.

I wish I didn't need those proprietary screens though.
Does the xl bowl fit? I may have to look at getting one if so.
 
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coolbreeze

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The sko works with the xl bowl or the sko bowl works with the couch log?
SKO fits the XL bowl...
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somewhere around this deep.
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Not sure I've actually tried it but I'm pretty sure it would work for small flavor loads at least.
 
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Likun

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I've seen that there have been some discount codes to special occasion like black friday.
When will the next 10 % code probably drop? 20.04.?
I'm lurking to buy one :razz: XL or normal? Hard decision.
 

coolbreeze

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XL or normal? Hard decision.
I'm sure I'm overstating it, but I see them as the XL being primarily an injector for people who want a safer option and the 14mm as being the 'best log.' I haven't seen any comments on the XL as a log used log-style, but it seems very powerful for direct use. Maybe the XL is totally comfortable as a log, Idk? The 14mm is really a fantastic log and a great injector.
 

TangibleHangnail

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I'm sure I'm overstating it, but I see them as the XL being primarily an injector for people who want a safer option and the 14mm as being the 'best log.' I haven't seen any comments on the XL as a log used log-style, but it seems very powerful for direct use. Maybe the XL is totally comfortable as a log, Idk? The 14mm is really a fantastic log and a great injector.
There's a small physical difference that explains this: the heater screen in the OG CL is recessed by a couple of mm, so extraction chambers naturally fit into it. On the XL CL the screen is almost flush with the rim of the heater, so your only choice is an injector bowl, or pressing the extraction chamber against it for a good seal (not much fun). I wish Chris had kept the small recess in the heater.
 

coolbreeze

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There's a small physical difference that explains this: the heater screen in the OG CL is recessed by a couple of mm, so extraction chambers naturally fit into it. On the XL CL the screen is almost flush with the rim of the heater, so your only choice is an injector bowl, or pressing the extraction chamber against it for a good seal (not much fun). I wish Chris had kept the small recess in the heater.
I hadn't even considered that but that does sound disadvantageous. I was trying to picture how you'd get a 19mm female stem/bowl to even work. I have a couple elev8r wands but without seriously tamping (a lot of) stuff into place I'm not sure how you'd do it. Your way would be much more viable, obviously with the recess.

I think I saw Chris comment that the regular chambers would work, which is what I assumed people were using.
 
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coolbreeze

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Yes, I think that's the easiest way to get a good seal in "log mode", since the OD of the original CL chamber is exactly the ID of the XL's heater, but it doesn't feel as secure as on the original CL.
Ah, I see. Like using a DV tip with the OG: it works but you have to mate it perfectly against leaks. Maybe he needs to build a bigger chamber to guide the OG chamber to the seal, a la DV hack. ; )
 

DgN'R

I'm No Superman!
I found a big magnet on the street today, I was lucky because this one corresponds exactly to the diameter (without scuffing the wood) of my CouchLog :brow:

It's a magnet with a central hole, this one is extremely powerful, and by positioning it on the opposite field, CL is automatically attracted to its center with incredible force.





By using the magnet as a docking station, you can safely use a whip system without the risk of tipping the CL. You can also remove the glass without holding the CL. It's a perfect one-handed system. Very secure :tup:


(here with 14 to 18 female adapter and Arizer 3' whip)



It's great fun to do a session with the CL this way (reminds me of an e-chicha) and I can guarantee that it works like a charm! Well.. I really like this :nod:
 

vapereyez

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I always have both turned on (or the Z8 or SX) with the Z on or next to my desk, and the CL on the coffee table, usually. For quick snaps or med recycler blasts, I go for the ZX, it's so quick and clean. For the CL, sometimes it's a break in the day where I'll fill the MP and sit back and roast through that for 5-10 mins and then back to it. Other times it's fill the MP and just have a hit randomly over the afternoon, during a movie, etc.

If we're watching a movie or something I load up bowl on a waterpiece and then just roast through it doing occasional hits as we sit there. Or it's really nice on the porch, too, for little sessions or occasional hits. You can also also turn up some and kill a decent hit-sized load in one go, I just like it more in a session setting. I think a less aggressive approach keeps flavors better longer.

I think in a nutshell, the Zs are excellent for the flavors and the quick, powerful hit where the CL is excellent for enjoying the flavors, the process, the building high, or for setting down and picking back up again. There's overlap--more probably than my use cases suggest--but with both you've got a spectrum of uses covered handily by two of the nicest vapes available.
I got on the list for a zx. Im trying to decide between the couchlog, and the cloud connoisseur Epitome/Dante combo. If you could pick one too compliment it (assuming you have experience with CC, Which one would you pick?
 

coolbreeze

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I got on the list for a zx. Im trying to decide between the couchlog, and the cloud connoisseur Epitome/Dante combo. If you could pick one too compliment it (assuming you have experience with CC, Which one would you pick?
Interesting dilemma but I'd go with the Couch Log. The Epitome I can vouch is fantastic and you wouldn't be sorry, but much of what it can do can be done by the ZX. The Couch Log is also slightly redundant but the form factor is small, portable, safe, is subtle in the living room, is an excellent log providing a different use style, it travels much easier, and is a great injector. I think ultimately the Epitome would add a larger load capacity but for me that is less than the flexibility the Couch Log provides. So, my suggestion is Couch Log first unless you are after the extra capacity.
 

vapereyez

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Interesting dilemma but I'd go with the Couch Log. The Epitome I can vouch is fantastic and you wouldn't be sorry, but much of what it can do can be done by the ZX. The Couch Log is also slightly redundant but the form factor is small, portable, safe, is subtle in the living room, is an excellent log providing a different use style, it travels much easier, and is a great injector. I think ultimately the Epitome would add a larger load capacity but for me that is less than the flexibility the Couch Log provides. So, my suggestion is Couch Log first unless you are after the extra capacity.
Thank you. I haven't decided if I need that capacity yet. Dioes the couchlog get a lot of warranty work? I'm surprised VGoodies doesn't have it. I'd feel better if they had an American distributor. It's the airflow fairly open. Better then an enano? 🤣
 

coolbreeze

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Thank you. I haven't decided if I need that capacity yet. Dioes the couchlog get a lot of warranty work?
I haven't had any issues. In this thread there are a handful of people who have had problems, mostly with it not working as they expected (running higher or lower than expected). Sometimes those were within the normal range, occasionally it was some sort of malfunction. I don't think I've seen anything breaking.
I'm surprised VGoodies doesn't have it. I'd feel better if they had an American distributor.
Yeah, this would be good.
It's the airflow fairly open. Better then an enano? 🤣
I haven't tried an enano, but it's way more open than my Woodscents, slightly tighter than my Alphadog, and a bit tighter still than the GTRs, but those have almost no restriction. I think it's reasonably open and certainly comfortable.
 

vapereyez

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I haven't had any issues. In this thread there are a handful of people who have had problems, mostly with it not working as they expected (running higher or lower than expected). Sometimes those were within the normal range, occasionally it was some sort of malfunction. I don't think I've seen anything breaking.

Yeah, this would be good.

I haven't tried an enano, but it's way more open than my Woodscents, slightly tighter than my Alphadog, and a bit tighter still than the GTRs, but those have almost no restriction. I think it's reasonably open and certainly comfortable.
Any thoughts on the XL? Its always something!😅
 

coolbreeze

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Any thoughts on the XL? Its always something!😅
I haven't seen a lot on it, tbh. I think it's more a "safe, artisan" injector that can also work like a log, with a de-emphasis on the log use compared to the 14mm, which does both roles very well. Otoh, I wonder if using an RBT-style stem would make it more loggish, like a GTR.
 
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coolbreeze

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I absolutely love my xl. It’s mainly an injector and thats what I like. I also have an og and it’s amazing too. The xl is a diffuser style injector
Female?
that has no problem crushing a bowl. The og takes a couple really tasty hits. I love them both.
Oh, I guess it would be a male injector. Hmmm. I wonder if a common stem (RBT, etc) would fit in the heater rather than around? I bet Alan would have a stem for it.
 
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