Arizer Solo

[OF]

oh i get it. i just figured that a replacement battery is about the price of an 1/8...? why even worry about it?

some people worry about stuff like that and dont get to enjoy their products as much. i say just use it and enjoy.

Good point, but not only is $45 plus shipping dear to some but some others don't want to change it out (I'm not going to argue with someone who lacks confidence in their skills, it can get goofed up) and others want to avoid it all together I think?

I agree, it's not a good thing to worry about (or obsess over). At least for some folks.

Again, options are good, as are informed choices. Many, I think, get great satisfaction from the 'I'm treating my gear as best I can' attitude. Some others consider it a tool to be used until it's no longer useful then replace it. Capitalism allows for all that, pretty keen compared to the alternative.

Thanks again. I trust you're enjoying your Solo, which is how it should be......no matter what form that takes. Speaking of which, it's about time to take mine out to the garden and see how the day is doing........

OF

 

[CarlosSpiceyWeiner]

Works for me...

Pleased to say I'll soon be the proud owner of a Pipes stand for my Solo.

So am i...

Should be here sometime this week from puffitup.

My wife really didn't like how the Styrofoam stand from the solo box. Clashed with our Wusthof knife set. While charging next to it in the kitchen. ( I agreed )

Now that Ed's wood stand with stem holder sure looks nice. ( Does it come in butcher block wood too? )

 

[2clicker]

Good point, but not only is $45 plus shipping dear to some but some others don't want to change it out (I'm not going to argue with someone who lacks confidence in their skills, it can get goofed up) and others want to avoid it all together I think?

I agree, it's not a good thing to worry about (or obsess over). At least for some folks.

Again, options are good, as are informed choices. Many, I think, get great satisfaction from the 'I'm treating my gear as best I can' attitude. Some others consider it a tool to be used until it's no longer useful then replace it. Capitalism allows for all that, pretty keen compared to the alternative.

Thanks again. I trust you're enjoying your Solo, which is how it should be......no matter what form that takes. Speaking of which, it's about time to take mine out to the garden and see how the day is doing........

OF

well put kind sir. if i could join ya for a garden session i certainly would.

 

[bussinrounds]

@Alvinhwang63 try drying out your herb. Sometimes I buy and its a bit too moist, good for smoking probably but I leave it out and get better vapor.

If it's not dry enough and you don't have the time to let it sit out, just take a little pull at a low temp level (1 or 2), empty it out, crumble the bud up between your fingers and pack it back up !

 

[OF]

My wife really didn't like how the Styrofoam stand from the solo box. Clashed with our Wusthof knife set. While charging next to it in the kitchen. ( I agreed )

You know the other way to solve that problem is a Styrofoam block for the knives......

I agree, the Pipes stand is clearly an escalation in decor wars. Dangerous road to start down, could lead to a new house even? Usually cheaper than a new wife.......

OF

 

[scot]

Hey Pipes or OF I have two solos now (second one just got here from Canada post, yay) because I was worried one was going to get the battery hammered to hard by itself. I want to use one while the other one is charging or docked on one of your stands.What should I order from you if my primary need is to sort of have a always charged solo ready and waiting. Mine are both the new version so I don't think I need the power adapter because there is no true pa mode on my newer solos but should I have one of your step down adapters if I might be leaving one of the solos on the stand for extended periods of time? Thanks

Ps the new solo is a M1Y1 while my 2 week old one is a M1T1 if that matters.

 

[Pipes]

Hey Pipes or OF I have two solos now (second one just got here from Canada post, yay) because I was worried one was going to get the battery hammered to hard by itself. I want to use one while the other one is charging or docked on one of your stands.What should I order from you if my primary need is to sort of have a always charged solo ready and waiting. Mine are both the new version so I don't think I need the power adapter because there is no true pa mode on my newer solos but should I have one of your step down adapters if I might be leaving one of the solos on the stand for extended periods of time? Thanks

Ps the new solo is a M1Y1 while my 2 week old one is a M1T1 if that matters.

Some good planning happening here.
As you know the stand is just a pass-through for the power and has no baring on battery charge etc.
The thought of using a lower voltage to avoid overcharging is something which @OF has brought up a few times. He could best answer this in detail as good to know. My step down's output is approximately 8.5 volts no load. Definitely won't overcharge in the short term.

 

[scot]

Some good planning happening here.
As you know the stand is just a pass-through for the power and has no baring on battery charge etc.
The thought of using a lower voltage to avoid overcharging is something which @OF has brought up a few times. He could best answer this in detail as good to know. My step down's output is approximately 8.5 volts no load. Definitely won't overcharge in the short term.

So I can just use your step down adapter with one of my stock chargers and your stand right? If so what level would my solo be charged to in this setup? Thanks

 

[Pipes]

So I can just use your step down adapter with one of my stock chargers and your stand right? If so what level would my solo be charged to in this setup? Thanks

In theory, yes, should charge without problem with the OEM supply. Supply would only fail if full PA mode, with heater on, was attempted.

The step down units are currently configured for a larger connector. (2.1mm)
This has been a compatibility hiccup for the third party power supplies from day one. Hens the use of adapters to get around this.
To use my step down unit with the OEM would call for an additional small to large on the input side. I really want to avoid having to do the cable ending when pre-molded connectors are available. Rather make the adapters as give more options.
I currently have tons of 1.7mm male, 1.7mm female and 2.1 females connectors for making stands and adapters but did not have any need for 2.1mm males.
Note I'm quoting males and female in China terms as compared to true pin orientation. So currently can't make these adapters. (1.7 to 2.1mm)

If @OF can confirm on the worthiness of this procedure, I'll see about getting some.

EDIT: It really doesn't take long. Here's a batch of the 5.5X2.1 females I just received. Note the manufacture date. These are much nicer quality and has a very tight grounding spring compaired to it's predecessor.. Just making up a new mold for the adapter now.

 

[OF]

I'm a little confused at this point on exactly what's being discussed.

As I said, I've had some encouraging results charging with a PA at about 8.8 Volts or so stopping itself on the sixth or seventh step (before the Solo shuts itself off and makes the charge light solid). But I'm still plagued by it sometimes not wanting to start charging???

Otherwise I agree WRT to the connector size. That 1.7mm connector is a PITA. While I have, and use, the original 4 inch or so 'adapter cable' from EBay, some custom 3 foot ones, and a couple of the 2 inch long solid adapters Jameco used to carry (before we bought them all up.......). I don't have Pipe's unit, but it looks like the best of the lot to me. Very solid and a very handy shape.

Another impressive and useful Pipes offering if you ask me......which might be the case here?

"In Pipes we trust".....even if he is Canadian.

OF

 

[ou812?]

So the F-Bomb apparently is available in both 14mm and 18mm (you pay an extra $25 for the 18mm version). Is it worth the extra $25? Is the difference noticable?

no not really I originally bought a PNWT on sale for 80 bucks think'n "look at me go" yeah right,it slipped one day and had to buried with the rest of the shattered glass soldiers of the vape world but here buy it from the knock off kings themselves CHINA take a look bro-
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/pinnacle-pro-glass-smoking-water-pipe-vaporblunt/184494946.html

I recently bought 2 for that price in case if one ever slips again. the quality is just about the same, no issues with the 2 that I have or any other bro's who have bought off of that thread "CHEAP HIGH QUALITY BUBBLER" You may be surprised in a good way. Although no very fine masterpieces but some very nice inexpensive rigs that can be bought for under 50 bucks, we as a whole over there are seeing prices slowly rise as the Chinese are learning what has to be done to compete in the EU/USA markets for glass pipes.

At first and some still do not understand what they are copying and do not or did not I should say about perc placement,YIKES you should have seen some of this stuff, its still around on some import glass mkts, but as time went on they got a whole lot better here check out the mobius knock off _http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/hot-sell-the-newest-glass-oil-bong-glass/187586219.html, do not look at price he is sold out for the time being on single units and this is a whole sale price but this one cost FC members 46 bucks to the door

but go take a peek and follow the thread back a few months and see why its one of the largest replied threads other than the SOLO (which is Jurassic in size compared to anything else here at FC) that link is one of the reasons!! Good luck hit me up for any additional help if needed,plus I am a very happy Solo customer,only vape I have and find that it does everything I need it to from going out on the fly with it, to vaping huge clouds at home with power adapter going and milking up some nice glass rigs filled with the sweet taste that only a vape can produce and most of the rigs I have I chose selectively for it. The mobius knock off has a nice wide base,intake is center,no chance of tip over and the can is just the right size for milking and sending a shot of pure MJ right on down to your airbags for processing!! .Lots of good peeps over on that thread ,as well as the whole forum PS I just bought a newer Solo havent unwrapped it yet my last is over a year old and running like its brand new.Need to find out if the break in procedure is the same as far as conditioning battery and while it now charges while also being used,.I havent heard any negative feed back yet but I havent been able to go too far back to find any. OK enjoy, hope some of the links help you with your GAS problem

 

[ataxian]

no not really I originally bought a PNWT on sale for 80 bucks think'n "look at me go" yeah right,it slipped one day and had to buried with the rest of the shattered glass soldiers of the vape world but here buy it from the knock off kings themselves CHINA take a look bro-
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/pinnacle-pro-glass-smoking-water-pipe-vaporblunt/184494946.html

I recently bought 2 for that price in case if one ever slips again. the quality is just about the same, no issues with the 2 that I have or any other bro's who have bought off of that thread "CHEAP HIGH QUALITY BUBBLER" You may be surprised in a good way. Although no very fine masterpieces but some very nice inexpensive rigs that can be bought for under 50 bucks, we as a whole over there are seeing prices slowly rise as the Chinese are learning what has to be done to compete in the EU/USA markets for glass pipes.

At first and some still do not understand what they are copying and do not or did not I should say about perc placement,YIKES you should have seen some of this stuff, its still around on some import glass mkts, but as time went on they got a whole lot better here check out the mobius knock off _http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/hot-sell-the-newest-glass-oil-bong-glass/187586219.html, do not look at price he is sold out for the time being on single units and this is a whole sale price but this one cost FC members 46 bucks to the door

but go take a peek and follow the thread back a few months and see why its one of the largest replied threads other than the SOLO (which is Jurassic in size compared to anything else here at FC) that link is one of the reasons!! Good luck hit me up for any additional help if needed,plus I am a very happy Solo customer,only vape I have and find that it does everything I need it to from going out on the fly with it, to vaping huge clouds at home with power adapter going and milking up some nice glass rigs filled with the sweet taste that only a vape can produce and most of the rigs I have I chose selectively for it. The mobius knock off has a nice wide base,intake is center,no chance of tip over and the can is just the right size for milking and sending a shot of pure MJ right on down to your airbags for processing!! .Lots of good peeps over on that thread ,as well as the whole forum PS I just bought a newer Solo havent unwrapped it yet my last is over a year old and running like its brand new.Need to find out if the break in procedure is the same as far as conditioning battery and while it now charges while also being used,.I havent heard any negative feed back yet but I havent been able to go too far back to find any. OK enjoy, hope some of the links help you with your GAS problem

I have a Chineese glass collection.
Function's OK.
The pieces that are made here in the USA are just getting even better and the quality (polished Glass) is very appealing. The price is much more for an original piece. However as the CHINESE prices increase I may just buy a couple of high end pieces and get over my GAS.

I say that now?
The D020-Q looks pretty good!

GAS!

 

[OF]

I may just buy a couple of high end pieces and get over my GAS.

Please, say it ain't so........

OF

 

[CarlosSpiceyWeiner]

Just received my Pipes solo stand from puffitup.

I love it! Way smaller than i expected.

@Pipes. Is it safe to leave the charger and stand plugged in? Until I'm ready to charge the solo?


I also received the red solo rings from puffitup.

I love how it keeps the glass stems centered. Which is what i was doing before i had one. So keeping the stem centered gives more even cooking which equals to more vapor.

IMO these rings should actually come with the solo.

But now with the red ring installed. My solo top cap plug is facing to the right. Instead of facing to the rear of the unit.

Which is fine because I'm left handed.

Is that normal? I really didn't want to force anything?

TIA

 

[Pipes]

Just received my Pipes solo stand from puffitup.

I love it! Way smaller than i expected.

@Pipes. Is it safe to leave the charger and stand plugged in? Until I'm ready to charge the solo?


I also received the red solo rings from puffitup.

I love how it keeps the glass stems centered. Which is what i was doing before i had one. So keeping the stem centered gives more even cooking which equals to more vapor.

IMO these rings should actually come with the solo.

But now with the red ring installed. My solo top cap plug is facing to the right. Instead of facing to the rear of the unit.

Which is fine because I'm left handed.

Is that normal? I really didn't want to force anything?

TIA

Cool, glad you like the stand. No reason you can't leave the stand plugged it. Makes easier to find at night?

I didn't know the top had a front and back? Stops where it stops. I would not be concerned. In fact removing that cap was something I did the second week I had mine. IMO, just gets in the way.

 

[Ano]

In fact removing that cap was something I did the second week I had mine. IMO, just gets in the way.

I use that cap/cover/plug to hold my bent stem in place, it also tilts the stem a bit which seems to improve airflow.

 

[OF]

But now with the red ring installed. My solo top cap plug is facing to the right. Instead of facing to the rear of the unit.

Is that normal? I really didn't want to force anything?

If I'm following you right, no, that's not normal......nor right. It sounds like the ring is stopping the cap screwing on 1/4 turn out? Too much ring, you don't want any pressure on it really or the tabs will likely break.

You can't just bung one in willy nilly, Solo is not designed for that. There are two cap thicknesses, the thicker one means there's too little gap above the oven for the ring. This has been discussed at length many times, I think the consensus is you want it to make contact with the ring no more than 1/4 turn from the stop. Any more compresses the ring (closing the hole up some which is good) but loading the tabs in a way they were never intended to.

The idea is the ring grabs the stem (as it does normally in 'open air'), the cap merely grips tight enough to keep it from rotating. The ring really has to be free to shift a bit for stem inserting and removal.

Sanding the ring down, or securing the cap well (like with tape) at the right point is advised. I have a ring in my new 'returned Solo' from PIU. Having the thick cap I've got it taped about 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn out, where the cap just barely grips the ring. When I get around to it I'll sand a ring down and probably put the vent cuts in it I have in my other Solos.

I didn't know the top had a front and back? Stops where it stops. I would not be concerned. In fact removing that cap was something I did the second week I had mine. IMO, just gets in the way.

Just to be clear, when I said 'cap' I meant the big black thing with threads (silver on silver models), not what I would call the cover (black in all cases?). If you don't like where it (the cover) is when the cap is correctly installed, just move it. Look inside, you can tease the rubber stud back out and change it to whichever slot suits you best.....or leave it off.

OF

 

[spoutti]

About battery usage. I too have 2 solos in rotation, and I fill/empty to maxes. I vape fulltime. It took 8 months to wear my batterypacks down. I was down to about 3 0.07g bowls per charge 8 months later. So yes, I think I could have extended that with OF's tips. But too much trouble for me...

I have been using 2 hc packs from centizen for 5 months now, but one of them crapped on me. It started by giving me yellow light shows while charging and less sessions. And now twice in a row while full the charge/heat lights blinked fast, not heating the crucible while happening. It randomly happened before on low battery levels. But twice on full charges creeped me out and i switched to my old pack.

The other hc pack is #1 and still giving me too many sessions for me to worry and count them.

Here is the charge/heat lights blinking

Sooo, time to get a new solo model! I tested 1 for 2 weeks, but i will own one now

 

[OF]

Here is the charge/heat lights blinking

First, I agree, sounds like you're getting your money's worth, especially given the 'casual' way you're handling charging. For sure nothing to gripe about.

I think I've seen that 'light show' as well, just not as fast. I don't think the speed of the cycling and is probably battery related. I'm color blind but I think the color on the charge light is not the normal charging color (green?) but rather red? That is I don't think the Solo really thinks it's charging, rather saying 'the battery is dead, time to charge it'.

So, I think, under load one of the two batteries is collapsing (the weaker obviously) enough to bring the total in too low (about 6.8 Volts total IIRC?), tripping the 'dead battery function and killing the heating. The battery immediately recovers when the load disappears, at least enough to get out of lockup, and it tries to heat again.

Anyway, for those with 'normal eyes' is the color on the charge light correct for charging or fault indication?

TIA

OF

 

[ataxian]

Cool, glad you like the stand. No reason you can't leave the stand plugged it. Makes easier to find at night?

@Pipes I have a stand with no light?
When I vake at night this would be a nice feature!

4:20 PM GIRL SCOUT COOKIES Level 4 HAMSTER position!

 

[rizzo]

Pressed arizer recently for hint of future product and my wish for a mini solo with same size oven and glass tubes. Couldnt be that hard to evolve into this with a smaller battery. Anyways they are very tight lipped and only mentioned that there are good things still to come in 2014 for arizer? Not sure how to interpret that,another update on existing products or something to complete their line up. A mini battery that can be popped out and changed would be perfect like a single 18650 or smaller

 

[spoutti]

First, I agree, sounds like you're getting your money's worth, especially given the 'casual' way you're handling charging. For sure nothing to gripe about.

I think I've seen that 'light show' as well, just not as fast. I don't think the speed of the cycling and is probably battery related. I'm color blind but I think the color on the charge light is not the normal charging color (green?) but rather red? That is I don't think the Solo really thinks it's charging, rather saying 'the battery is dead, time to charge it'.

So, I think, under load one of the two batteries is collapsing (the weaker obviously) enough to bring the total in too low (about 6.8 Volts total IIRC?), tripping the 'dead battery function and killing the heating. The battery immediately recovers when the load disappears, at least enough to get out of lockup, and it tries to heat again.

Anyway, for those with 'normal eyes' is the color on the charge light correct for charging or fault indication?

TIA

OF

Tx for sharing your wisdom on my personnal case OF. I always treat my posting as a snail mail letter; my slow type of internet forum conversation. Im not used to get internet attention too, so sorry to have let you on a question so long!

It was a red charge light, so your explaination IS what happened I think. It made a clicking sound when the lights flashed. And the speed of it happening is maybe due to the different type of cell used in the hc packs?

My beatup pack is giving me 2 bowls, just enough to charge my other solo. But no problem, I have a new solo comming from pv asap!

 

[OF]

It was a red charge light, so your explaination IS what happened I think. It made a clicking sound when the lights flashed. And the speed of it happening is maybe due to the different type of cell used in the hc packs?

My beatup pack is giving me 2 bowls, just enough to charge my other solo. But no problem, I have a new solo comming from pv asap!

Cool. Thanks for the confirmation. It is red then?

Yes, it think the rate difference is due to battery differences. Maybe because yours is hc maybe because mine is not quite as beat up?

It occurs to me that your lame one should be a prime candidate for pairing with a PA for it's 'Golden Years'?

Anyway, glad you've got it under control. Thanks again for the reply. Enjoy your Solos.

OF

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Cool. Thanks for the confirmation. It is red then?

Yes, it think the rate difference is due to battery differences. Maybe because yours is hc maybe because mine is not quite as beat up?

It occurs to me that your lame one should be a prime candidate for pairing with a PA for it's 'Golden Years'?

Anyway, glad you've got it under control. Thanks again for the reply. Enjoy your Solos.

OF

Yeah the LED's were both red.

 

[crisallin]

I just ordered my first vape, the solo from pv with screens because of the crumpling dry brick weed I get and a travel tube. It's not stealthy enough for frequent use but reading through the threads it seems worth it and thanks to the fc members for helping me make my decision. I cant wait to get my hands on it and start vaping. I would need to I guess put a black tape on the glass stem for stealth. Sadly I couldn't find a way to order a wooden stem but that can wait for now.