Anvil by Vestratto

Zuhdj

Charles Mingus
Hi - John here.

HOYO77 You're a frickin genius!
The Vestratto Team has been hitting this puppy for a year.
We never thought of getting "Anvilled"!
Whiff is gonna die laughing when he sees this.

Point taken on a de-bowling tool integration as well.
The debowler can maybe be integrated into the case rather than the anvil
 

The Stray Fox

Separated from the group
A little chaos from last night.
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This torch is overpowered for the anvil even turned down. Backing it away works great. I’m liking longer less intense heat ups.

The stand I’m using lines up the Anvil really nicely with the height of my torch allowing hands free heat ups. A cool future product for the Anvil could be a desktop stand that allows for repeatable hands free heat ups with some adjustability for height and distance from the oven.
 

mephisto

Well-Known Member
Stalked the mailman yesterday and my Anvil showed up 9 days early. I have tried 3 different sized lighters, and still looking for the best. Aside from the cosmetic flaws on the battery, the Anvil is a monster! Half load chamber with CBD flower is turning me into a marshmallow for hours.
Great work John!
 

Winthrowe

Member
Might be useful to some Anvil users in reducing heat times to get the best out of slightly underpowered torch lighters:
I've watched this video, reflecting on my usage, and trying a few heatups mindful of the video's suggestions about flames. My goldilocks feelings are intensified.

My SK79 single flame simply does not have the power to deliver a dark roast when aimed directly at the battery. It takes too long, the heat escapes to the bowl, and it's a very nice hit, but a medium-light roast.

My triple flame honest, with the triangle nozzles in parallel, not converging alignment, is too imprecise. The heat cannot be aimed directly into only the battery, there's always overflow somewhere, and I end up again with what's usually a nice hit, but only medium-dark, but sometimes pushed too far and edging past dark into combustion that I've cut off early.

I'll continue to keep working these two, but my quest for an ideal one that makes it easy to achieve all roast levels with a single torch continues. I've found a couple torches available on amazon that isn't my first pick for manufacturer or ergonomics, but at least are available for prime speed delivery, and are dual nozzle.
 

hoyo77

Well-Known Member
The debowler can maybe be integrated into the case rather than the anvil
i like that better or a multi tool with debowler on one end and flat round surface on other end to tap the herb end and it can be used to tap the inner cylinder thing back in place when taking the anvil apart. on occasion i have had to take a pin and push it in until the orings sealed.
 
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alex91

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Is this the final version yet? I mean, it looks to me that you guys are still talking about improving some aspects of the vape based on this initial feedback, which is wonderful, but I wouldn’t like to order one right now and then, like 3 months from now, an improved/different version comes. Is that the case or it should be “safe” to order? I’m sure it’s a perfect product right now, it’s just that If there’s some improvements coming in the next months I wouldn’t mind waiting.

Thanks.
 
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ellis d. tripp

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Is this the final version yet? I mean, it looks to me that you guys are still talking about improving some aspects of the vape based on this initial feedback, which is wonderful, but I wouldn’t like to order one right now and then, like 3 months from now, an improved/different version comes. Is that the case or it should be “safe” to order? I’m sure it’s a perfect product right now, it’s just that If there’s some improvements coming in the next months I wouldn’t mind waiting.

Thanks.
From what i understand, the next iteration of the anvil, the one that pre-orders will receive, will include many improvements, and updates, and will also be considered the final version…. For now.
 

Vestratto

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Manufacturer
I've watched this video, reflecting on my usage, and trying a few heatups mindful of the video's suggestions about flames. My goldilocks feelings are intensified.

My SK79 single flame simply does not have the power to deliver a dark roast when aimed directly at the battery. It takes too long, the heat escapes to the bowl, and it's a very nice hit, but a medium-light roast.

My triple flame honest, with the triangle nozzles in parallel, not converging alignment, is too imprecise. The heat cannot be aimed directly into only the battery, there's always overflow somewhere, and I end up again with what's usually a nice hit, but only medium-dark, but sometimes pushed too far and edging past dark into combustion that I've cut off early.

I'll continue to keep working these two, but my quest for an ideal one that makes it easy to achieve all roast levels with a single torch continues. I've found a couple torches available on amazon that isn't my first pick for manufacturer or ergonomics, but at least are available for prime speed delivery, and are dual nozzle.
I'm sorry you're struggling with this. We don't stock torches, and don't really want to take that on right now but we do know that folks like Vgoodiez, Sneaky Pete etc. have a good selection. The Honest Dual is great. Blazer Firefox. It is the combination of power with enough ability to aim that really setts the tone. If you have a Dynavap Dual I think that's also an excellent torch. Another place that I've found terrific, albeit a bit expensive selection is the local tobacconist (cigars, pipes etc.) They have a better selection than any head shop I've ever been in but are likely too "bling". I will take the Anvil in this week and see what brands I can find that have good characteristics and make a bigger list.
 

Duba

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Accessory Maker
Is this the final version yet? I mean, it looks to me that you guys are still talking about improving some aspects of the vape based on this initial feedback, which is wonderful, but I wouldn’t like to order one right now and then, like 3 months from now, an improved/different version comes. Is that the case or it should be “safe” to order? I’m sure it’s a perfect product right now, it’s just that If there’s some improvements coming in the next months I wouldn’t mind waiting.

Thanks.
This version works like a charm, basically everything is in place, i think that the improvements will be globally "secondary" or cosmetic. Vestratto's team has released a very powerful device as it is.
 

kuzko

Well-Known Member
Gotta say, pretty incredible how Vestratto/John is handling things. I don’t think any early adopters we’re expecting to get a brand new updated 2nd Anvil for free. And I don’t know there are many companies that would do that on their own accord.
 

RedZep

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This version works like a charm, basically everything is in place, i think that the improvements will be globally "secondary" or cosmetic. Vestratto's team has released a very powerful device as it is.
This early version is probably already my favourite device of all time.

Can't wait to have multiple herb chambers lined up on magnets ready to go.

Gotta say, pretty incredible how Vestratto/John is handling things. I don’t think any early adopters we’re expecting to get a brand new updated 2nd Anvil for free. And I don’t know there are many companies that would do that on their own accord.
I love this guy. Inteligent straight talker. Seems like some kind of engineering genius as well. I'm very excited to see everything he brings to the vape space in the future.
 

Winthrowe

Member
I'm sorry you're struggling with this. We don't stock torches, and don't really want to take that on right now but we do know that folks like Vgoodiez, Sneaky Pete etc. have a good selection. The Honest Dual is great. Blazer Firefox. It is the combination of power with enough ability to aim that really setts the tone. If you have a Dynavap Dual I think that's also an excellent torch. Another place that I've found terrific, albeit a bit expensive selection is the local tobacconist (cigars, pipes etc.) They have a better selection than any head shop I've ever been in but are likely too "bling". I will take the Anvil in this week and see what brands I can find that have good characteristics and make a bigger list.
Saying I'm struggling I think overstates the issue. You've built a device that does deliver quality extractions almost any way you use it. I just feel that I've gotten two heating patterns that are very good, however there's an exemplary optimum hidden between them I'm not quite equipped to reach.

Even with the 'wrong torch' I am grabbing it in preference over my other options and really enjoying every hit I expect to, but I have also been intentionally experimenting with the limits, and trying to 'ride the line' with something that has a flame pattern wider than the line (heat battery) seems just as difficult as one could logically imagine.

Torches aren't something that I would expect stocked at the Vestratto level, that was more a suggestion for any resellers planning to stock the Anvil to examine and perhaps adjust their torch offerings.
 

Zuhdj

Charles Mingus
Gotta say, pretty incredible how Vestratto/John is handling things. I don’t think any early adopters we’re expecting to get a brand new updated 2nd Anvil for free. And I don’t know there are many companies that would do that on their own accord.
Wait this is really happening?! That's awesome. Will the properly drilled cases be sent out as well or will we just wait until the updated anvil is shipped to get those?
 
Zuhdj,

Vestratto

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
Is this the final version yet? I mean, it looks to me that you guys are still talking about improving some aspects of the vape based on this initial feedback, which is wonderful, but I wouldn’t like to order one right now and then, like 3 months from now, an improved/different version comes. Is that the case or it should be “safe” to order? I’m sure it’s a perfect product right now, it’s just that If there’s some improvements coming in the next months I wouldn’t mind waiting.

Thanks.
Saying I'm struggling I think overstates the issue. You've built a device that does deliver quality extractions almost any way you use it. I just feel that I've gotten two heating patterns that are very good, however there's an exemplary optimum hidden between them I'm not quite equipped to reach.

Even with the 'wrong torch' I am grabbing it in preference over my other options and really enjoying every hit I expect to, but I have also been intentionally experimenting with the limits, and trying to 'ride the line' with something that has a flame pattern wider than the line (heat battery) seems just as difficult as one could logically imagine.

Torches aren't something that I would expect stocked at the Vestratto level, that was more a suggestion for any resellers planning to stock the Anvil to examine and perhaps adjust their torch offerings.
My personal experience with a Quad torch last winter - don't remember the brand as it was given away with an early tester, was the roast (estratto as I say) was pretty consistent and I couldn't get a wide enough colour range to satisfy my curiosity. The heat pattern was too diffuse. Also - if you do get a dual torch then be sure to orient it so the flames are across rather than along the length of the Anvil. With the triple you have I would dial the hot inner blue back to 5/8 inch. Place two flames on the gap between the CopperBlock and the oven with the third point of the triangle by default impinging on the silver of the oven. Hold the torch so the tips of the inner blue are just hovering at the level of the CopperBlock. I suspect this will give you a deep tan abv. Don't pack your Anvil too tight as the CopperBlock heat reservoir has to dump its energy into the convection air stream. If the air is too slow your total heat transferred to the material is impeded even though the convection air is super hot. Full extraction is an integration of all of the heat energy into the herb-resulting in the vapour. If you are finding the heat up time is still too fast - which effectively means tan roast no matter what you try - dial back to an inner blue of 1/2 inch. Once we've got your Anvil heating in 30-35 seconds then you can start to move the two flames incrementally onto the CopperBlock and the third flame will touch just below the gap. The key to riding the line is getting close without overshooting but this setup should work. Things to watch for with multi-flame torches are packing too tight and inner blue flames creeping out to 1" or longer.
 
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RedZep

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Where did you see this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dynavap/comments/rzz1ts
Seems rushed and I'll thought out. Still using those flimsy caps, and the thin tips that have loads cut away. There is no way this would allow a Dyna to do one hit extractions with no spinning. It's just a thin copper ring that goes over the cap.

Seems they are panicking a bit. I bet they got their hands an an Anvil and tested it and this is their rushed reaction.
 

Greenleaf88

Well-Known Member
Alright now that you all have gotten a chance to hit your anvils I got a question for all of you.

I've filled up both my chambets and hit one took it off and but my other on tried to hit no vapor. So I heated it till a clic again and combusted now I pretty much did what I thought but for science.

Do you wait for it to cool off b4 u hit again?
I read how you all chain I really can't lol
 

RedZep

Well-Known Member
I can chain them back To back, but hear in mind you have added heat from the battery. So torch dynamics will come I to account. I find my subsequent hits are perfect as long as I'm not torching the battery, but instead in the gap above.

We will all develop a knack over time. I find the Anvil to have really reproducible effects. More about learning the torch you are using.

I'm using a larger single flame.

Alright now that you all have gotten a chance to hit your anvils I got a question for all of you.

I've filled up both my chambets and hit one took it off and but my other on tried to hit no vapor. So I heated it till a clic again and combusted now I pretty much did what I thought but for science.

Do you wait for it to cool off b4 u hit again?
I read how you all chain I really can't lol
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Planck

believes in Dog
Just seen Dynavaps response to the Anvil. They are releasing a copper ring for the existing caps. Seems weak. Don't think it will allow a dynavap to pull off what the Anvil does.

Would not go back to those flimsy caps anyway. I love the screw on herb chambers of the anvil.
I'm fuckin lovin this! :rofl: :cool:
Not on reddit but it's tempting, I see they are looking for names. I have a few, CopyCap, M.e2
or even BandAid has a nice ring to it imo.

I passed on the initial Avnil release because I'd just purchase a Cannabis Hardware setup but the next release is a different story.
 
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