Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud

[THCMuscle]

I think this thread got derailed by a stack of preverbial pennies.


I think it is best we keep this thread for updates from the VHX Team as well as product related questions. I dobut SM or anyone at the VHX team wants to read a few pages about why people think their product is too expensive. Nor do I (a soon to be cloud purchaser) want to hear why other people can't "justify" the price.

People buy Volcano's for far more than the Cloud will be priced at. Even then, I still feel you are getting more dollar for dollar than any other Vape.

How many vapes do you get to see most of the design process publicized?

How many vapes have you been able to lend suggestion into its design?

How many vapes come with a piece of elegant glass to diffuse your vapor through?

How many vapes have a F'ing monkey on the front?

How many vapes do you own that take into account the short commings of most vapes on the market today? Ultimate flavor, heat time, glass path, variable temp, variable vapor flow rate



I can't wait to give my money to the VHX team, why? Because I know this product will work perfectly? No. I can't wait to give them my money because I can see the hard work and effort they've put into this product for themselves, not for me. And I can't wait to have a chance to give this product a run for its money, wether it actually provides or not. I have the up-most confidence that it will.

 

[Hotboxvapebongin]

Hey StoneMonkey55.. I had a question? I want to purchase the VapeXhale vaporizer around early January. Do you think it will be ready for purchase in USA by then?

 

[Vsurf500]

Anyone bothered to go over the cons of this device? I will.

In no particular order:

1) Glass tube is a straight shot through, so no venturi effect

2) Optimized for their special bong with a hole in the bottom, which is the worst possible place to put the intake on a bong. The demonstation video shows a guy vaping with only a few ounces of warm water and only 1-2 centimeters before it begins to drain down the hole and onto the herb and electronics ... something that is sure to happen once you start properly using it with ice in the upper portion ... also condensation on the tube may drip onto the unit.

3) Turn it upside down and use it with a traditional bong, and gravity and suction may lead to the herb chamber being sucked out and into the bong tube (see the video where stonemonkey55 has his herb chamber wrapped in something white to apparently try to prevent this)

4) The hassle to stir the herb. One user claims it doesn't need to be stirred. The old guy making the videos says it does, however. To stir the herb you have to handle the recently heated metal herb chamber pulling it out and and take off the lid and then stir it and then put the lid back on and then re-insert the herb container

5) Fully loaded and iced shower tree may break the intake if you tip it over at a critcal enough angle

6) Overly expensive .. a heated GonG test tube with a regulator shouldn't cost more than $200

 

[t-dub]

#1 you are wrong. The glass tube is contoured so it creates a vortex.

#2 you are wrong. Nothing drains down the holes and if it did there is no way it could hit the electronics since they are outside of the glass.

#3 you are wrong. Nothing can be sucked out into the bong . . . this is just weird . . .

#4 you are wrong. No stirring is necessary. If you saw the design of the ELB you would understand.

#5 you are wrong. You can break anything if you tip it over at the "wrong" or any angle.

#6 you are wrong. The price issue has been adressed by others above. Considering the tecnology, quality, and glass the Cloud is an excellent value.

These of course are my opinions.

t-dub

 

[THCMuscle]

Anyone bothered to go over the cons of this device? I will.

In no particular order:

1) Glass tube is a straight shot through, so no venturi effect

2) Optimized for their special bong with a hole in the bottom, which is the worst possible place to put the intake on a bong. The demonstation video shows a guy vaping with only a few ounces of warm water and only 1-2 centimeters before it begins to drain down the hole and onto the herb and electronics ... something that is sure to happen once you start properly using it with ice in the upper portion ... also condensation on the tube may drip onto the unit.

3) Turn it upside down and use it with a traditional bong, and gravity and suction may lead to the herb chamber being sucked out and into the bong tube (see the video where stonemonkey55 has his herb chamber wrapped in something white to apparently try to prevent this)

4) The hassle to stir the herb. One user claims it doesn't need to be stirred. The old guy making the videos says it does, however. To stir the herb you have to handle the recently heated metal herb chamber pulling it out and and take off the lid and then stir it and then put the lid back on and then re-insert the herb container

5) Fully loaded and iced shower tree may break the intake if you tip it over at a critcal enough angle

6) Overly expensive .. a heated GonG test tube with a regulator shouldn't cost more than $200

Good to see your THIRD post being so productive and contributing to the community.

 

[psyshaman]

Wow, he must be angry that he didn't think of the idea. Tall poppy syndrome maybe?...
What a glass half full comment on a product you haven't even tried.... some people just need to lighten up a little and leave the criticism to the folks with the product in their hands.

 

[mflb_hustler]

Vsurf500 wrote:
Anyone bothered to go over the cons of this device? I will.

In no particular order:

1) Glass tube is a straight shot through, so no venturi effect

2) Optimized for their special bong with a hole in the bottom, which is the worst possible place to put the intake on a bong. The demonstation video shows a guy vaping with only a few ounces of warm water and only 1-2 centimeters before it begins to drain down the hole and onto the herb and electronics ... something that is sure to happen once you start properly using it with ice in the upper portion ... also condensation on the tube may drip onto the unit.

3) Turn it upside down and use it with a traditional bong, and gravity and suction may lead to the herb chamber being sucked out and into the bong tube (see the video where stonemonkey55 has his herb chamber wrapped in something white to apparently try to prevent this)

4) The hassle to stir the herb. One user claims it doesn't need to be stirred. The old guy making the videos says it does, however. To stir the herb you have to handle the recently heated metal herb chamber pulling it out and and take off the lid and then stir it and then put the lid back on and then re-insert the herb container

5) Fully loaded and iced shower tree may break the intake if you tip it over at a critcal enough angle

6) Overly expensive .. a heated GonG test tube with a regulator shouldn't cost more than $200

#1 you are wrong. The glass tube is contoured so it creates a vortex.

#2 you are wrong. Nothing drains down the holes and if it did there is no way it could hit the electronics since they are outside of the glass.

#3 you are wrong. Nothing can be sucked out into the bong . . . this is just weird . . .

#4 you are wrong. No stirring is necessary. If you saw the design of the ELB you would understand.

#5 you are wrong. You can break anything if you tip it over at the "wrong" or any angle.

#6 you are wrong. The price issue has been adressed by others above. Considering the tecnology, quality, and glass the Cloud is an excellent value.

These of course are my opinions.

t-dub

lol too funny t-dub..dont you just love the haters..they make me laugh

mod note: Right or wrong, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Voicing your dissenting opinion on the issues in question works better on this particular forum than calling another member a hater. We're here to have adult discussions about vapes. We don't want an us vs. them attitude here.

 

[t-dub]

@ Hustler Yeah, after I wrote that I went out and fired up my HA. I very rarely comment on technical issues since I am here to learn.

@ Psyshaman Interesting reference on the "Tall Poppy Syndrome". I looked it up on Wikipedia and it was cool. Thanks, I love learning something new and I had never heard that expression before.

t-dub

 

[psyshaman]

No worries t-dub it's quite a common phrase trown around here in Australia, I like it to

We need more cloud porn... C'mon beta testers show us your nicest glassware milked thick by the cloud!!

 

[vape4life]

For the cost of this vape, 1 year seems a little chinzy, but sounds like they won't leave you out in the dark, so i'm good with it. time will really tell.

 

[charliedontsurf]

I think the one year warranty is there so that the individuals behind the VXC don't get financially destroyed should unforeseen problems develop. If they were to offer a 5 year warranty and 3/4 of Clouds had a problem at year 4, then the small company might become fiscally insolvent in short order. I understand completely. SM has already said that repairs or replacements will be at a deep discount compared to a new unit, and I wouldn't be surprised if they end up extending the warranty for all of us, even on an unofficial basis, once its clear that a widescale, catastrophic fault isn't going to happen.

Compare this to the Volcano Digit, which originally carried an abbreviate warranty compared to the classic, which after some time in the field was extended to the same length (iirc). Why? Because S&B had few enough warranty problems with the Digit that extending the warranty made fiscal sense.

If after a year has transpired and the vast majority of us still have healthy, happy VXCs, which I suspect will be the case, then I won't be surprised if an extended warranty of sorts will be announced.

I also don't want to make it sound like I expect all that. 350 or 450 for such a groundbreaking vape with included high quality, unique American glass would be a steal with even less than a year.

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

lol- at tall poppy syndrome.

The great australian pastime of cutting down those more fortunate than yourself. We aussies love the underdog, but as soon as the underdog looks like he might be some sort of long term success, then the knives & the haters come out to sledge to all and sundry.

So, team vapexhale, keep at it guys. cant wait for my aussie cloud whenever its ready.

happy to wait for a quality product no problems.

 

[Pappy]

I never stirred.

 

[nowonknows]

I never stirred.

Did you ever try? Because if you didn't then you don't really know if it can extract all the available vapor without stirring.
Not that this is really an issue, some tool pointing out all the flaws, one being you have to stirr a bowl which gets hot, are there any vaporizers currently on the market that can extract all vapor without a stirr? I don't think so (but could be wrong) and are there any units that the bowl you have to stirr doesn't get hot?

This is the only point of his worth touching on, the rest of it is pure dribble based on no knowledge or research of this device.

 

[Caesar]

Did you ever try? Because if you didn't then you don't really know if it can extract all the available vapor without stirring.
Not that this is really an issue, some tool pointing out all the flaws, one being you have to stirr a bowl which gets hot, are there any vaporizers currently on the market that can extract all vapor without a stirr? I don't think so (but could be wrong) and are there any units that the bowl you have to stirr doesn't get hot?

This is the only point of his worth touching on, the rest of it is pure dribble based on no knowledge or research of this device.

The general consensus is that the HerbalAire does not require stirring. By the looks of the design, I expect this to also be the case with the Cloud.

 

[dopefiend]

Thought you guys might like to know that I've released my in-depth podcast review of The Cloud, which features an interview with our very own StoneMonkey!

New Today from the Dopefiend.co.uk Podcast Network:

On this extra special episode of the Web's Favourite Cannabis Podcast, the Dopefiend takes the world's first in-depth look at a revolutionary new piece of cannabis gadgetry, The Cloud vaporizer by VapeXhale, which moisture conditions and ice-cools thick clouds of vapour by use of groundbreaking technology and design, making it one of the most anticipated developments in the vaporizer world. First, the Dopefiend explains The Cloud's features, before embarking on a week-long intensive testing expedition with various gourmet strains, examining the reliability and efficiency of the unit and the quality of its build. Next, the Dopefiend welcomes the DopeTribe Allstars to the Dope Den to cast their expert eyes over the unit. The Gremlin of Ganja, Floydhead and Son of Gonzo all carefully inspect The Cloud while sampling some tasty Grapefruit Diesel and UK Cheese, and the Dopefiend joins them in discussing the various tweets, comments and questions sent in about the unit by the listening DopeTribe, including a look at how breakable it is and how it copes with hash. Following a Cloud-themed musical interlude, the Dopefiend talks to one of the men behind The Cloud, StoneMonkey, who explains the story behind The Cloud's creation, and the philosophy driving its creators VapeXhale. Finally, the Dopefiend returns to the VaporLounge and the now extremely high DopeTribe Allstars, who, along with the Dopefiend, give their final verdict on this exciting new pot product.

Download this episode here

And you can listen to 6 years' worth of free stoner-friendly podcasts, including more great reviews of pot products like this one, here

 

[charliedontsurf]

Listening to it right now.. Sounds like you really liked it! The part about the green tube being from Doctor Who made me laugh, and this is the first time I heard that the VXC was made in San Francisco, which is pretty cool.

 

[JDSupreme]

Listening to it now. Comparing the herb chamber to a suppository ROFL I will never look at it the same.

Do not put an herb chamber inside your bum lol

 

[weedemon]

@dopefiend (jealous you got to try it..) hahah i know wrong attitude, i think it's great that you aregiving this the publicity!

I am loving your vapor podcast man! thank you for sharing it with us! I only wish i could see an interface on the page to be able to pause the cast. I had to leave the room and missed a couple minutes of the show!

I feel there are already a few vaporizers that are better than the volcano. I really understand about using it to compare it against because of the volcano's street credit.

it was cool listening to it in use. sounds different. "darth vader" breathing haha

 

[Vitolo]

Do not put an herb chamber inside your bum lol

or a suppository in your vape's chamber!

 

[kewpcer]

@weedemon he's on iTunes as well, that's how I found the DC way back when. It will let you download the podcast or stream. And about the show... It's simply peerless when it comes to its subject matter. Fantastic program.

 

[Pappy]

I never stirred.

Did you ever try? Because if you didn't then you don't really know if it can extract all the available vapor without stirring.
Not that this is really an issue, some tool pointing out all the flaws, one being you have to stirr a bowl which gets hot, are there any vaporizers currently on the market that can extract all vapor without a stirr? I don't think so (but could be wrong) and are there any units that the bowl you have to stirr doesn't get hot?

This is the only point of his worth touching on, the rest of it is pure dribble based on no knowledge or research of this device.

Never tried because my ABV was evenly browned when dumped from ELB. FWIW I don't stir elbow bowls in Q either.

 

[Lo]

I looked at stirring & shaking the ELB's too but a comparison showed no difference in the ABV. The Cloud's ELB seems to do a VERY even cooking IMHO. No stirring needed.

 

[moodswing]

Thought you guys might like to know that I've released my in-depth podcast review of The Cloud, which features an interview with our very own StoneMonkey!..

Download this episode here

thanks for sharing dopefiend. great review... wish there was video! everyone should give this a listen.

...I only wish i could see an interface on the page to be able to pause the cast. I had to leave the room and missed a couple minutes of the show!..

to have full playback controls, download the podcast mp3 from the link (right-click, save as), and play in your media player. i actually just dragged the link into winamp and pressed play.

 

[weedemon]

pro tip dude! thanks! saving it now so i can play again later