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The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Bob Loblaw

    Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    have you tried lighthound?
     
  2. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    Out of stock as well. :( On an unrelated note, Bob, what voltage setting on the Iris have you found to work best with the Bender?
     
  3. Bob Loblaw

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    booo. not sure then. haven't yet. will update when i have. am sure it'll vary due to grind/moisture, etc.
    just like normal ;) hope you've been enjoying it
     
  4. BoB Nesmtih

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    I just purchased the Persei and I am not too happy. I inserted the two 3.7v batteries after charging them, and followed the directions for cauterizing and filling cartridge, exactly like the directins and a youtube video demonstrated. Both cartridges have failed. The first one failed while I was testing it, before filling. The second one failed about 20 hits in after filling. I was very careful, read all the directions, and read up a bunch before even unboxing the thing. I have to say the hits I was gettiign I was all grins, and thinking, man this thing ROCKS!!! I was even willing to overlook the first dud cartridge. but then the second (and my only other) cartridge failed. I since have purchased a box of 5 5 ohm cartridges like the ones supplied, to get me back up and running as I am sure I wont be able to return the unit. The company seems pretty clear on the warranty on cartridges, you bought them you own them and there is no warranty. So my question is this - I know its normal for newbies to burn up a cartridge, but I dont think I did anything that could have hurt the cartridges. Before I start destroying more of them I was hoping for some advice on what may have gone wrong, or did I truly receive two defective cartridges?
     
  5. StepInToSpace

    StepInToSpace Well-Known Member

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    If by ' cauterizing' you mean running them dry... Don't do that. it is unneccasary and increases the chances of burning out your carts GREATLY. Also, you are suppose to use the single 3.7V battery to get things going. Jumping straight to 7.4 V is bound to get a first timer in trouble. I did the same thing and it took way longer to figure shit out.... baby steps.

    gotta learn to walk before you can FLY!
     
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  6. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I had a bad experience with the PERSEI when I first got it.
    Using the 7.4 battery set up with a 5.0 cart and some PURE GOLD OIL was a ROOKIE Mistake.
    I use the 3.7 AW battery with 2.4 carts with no issues at all.
    Never dry run your carts.
    In fact I enjoyed the PERSEI (Chrome) so much I bought a Black one to match the rings and have a good battery supply.

    I have two HERCULES that are still in there boxes because the 2.4 carts work so well.
    DELTA NINE makes a good product.

    Try some 2.4 carts and the single battery and it will change your perspective!

    "OF" directed me on to the correct path.
    Otherwise I would have gave up!
     
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  7. Krazzykid

    Krazzykid Well-Known Member

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    Kindbeats the avid vaper website has them in stock right now. I am sure other places do as well, but I happened to be on their site earlier today and noticed them.
     
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  8. OF

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    BN,

    Welcome to the fun. I too know the Persei is a great performer if the owner uses it well. No offense meant but your issues are most likely self inflicted. You have lots of company there, as you see. Five Ohm carts are for power users (as is Persei, really, Omicron is the entry level vape in the line).

    I'd suggest you get some 2.4 Ohm carts and run them at 3.7 Volts until you learn, really learn, the system. 2.4s are pretty tough, as you've discovered you can wreck a five with no trouble at all. Never run one dry for any reason. Never load more than .5 grams to an empty cart, wait until it gets to less than .2 left before adding more. Be sure to carefully preheat the center of the cart before melting down the load (most common newbie loading fault). Load only 'supermelt or better', hit it lighly (and longer) and cool the cart down well after heavy use and you'll do just fine.

    Persei and Omicron carts are not magic. You need to understand and control them if you want them to work well for you. Learn that on low powered mild mannered carts. Leaning to ride a motorcycle by jumping on a superbike rather than a moped is asking for a trip to the shop for you and the bike.

    Take is slow and by the rules and you'll quickly join the happy owners who post here.

    Best of luck.

    OF
     
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  9. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    Thanks! Just ordered two pairs.
     
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  10. Krazzykid

    Krazzykid Well-Known Member

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    No problem man. They are a dollar or two more than lighthound, but they are available now. I have had great experiences with avid vaper, they almost always ship same day, sometimes within an hour or two.

    Edit: Just so you know, I am pretty sure that is for a single battery, as most places are. Did you mean you ordered 4 of them?
     
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  11. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    Yes, I ordered 4 batteries. Thanks for double checking!
     
  12. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    WTF, I moved in December, filled out my forms to change my address, and the post office still sent my iris back to D9 as undeliverable. What's the point of filling it out if they don't even use it. Stupid PO will probably cost me extra shipping now.
     
  13. BoB Nesmtih

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    Thank you for all of the tips. I am not a power user and I realize this. I probably did self-inflict, despite my best efforts not to. The company that I bought it from Delta9 has stepped up to the plate, and they are being super helpful. They agreed to walk me through the process once my new cartridges come in. Im eagerly awaiting them. The little that the one cartridge did work showed me why the Persei is being raved about. I bought 5 more of the 5 ohm cartridges, so maybe I can go from zero to hero without using them all up, LOL. I might go ahead and get some of the 2.4's if I cant get the skill for the 5. Im usually pretty decent at things, so I expect i will master the Persei pretty rapidly, as I am in a position where I must medicate all day long, there will be plenty of practice. I was also advised to get some AW batteries as well.. When I posted this post I was feeling a little down, but you guys and the manufacturer have offered so much advice that I cant wait to get the cartridges in and try again! Thanks again!

     
  14. OF

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    You're very welcome. I understand the urge to fight it through with 5 Ohm carts at 7.4 Volts but sincerely feel that's a mistake. You're going to loose about .2 grams of concentrate every time you scrap out a cart (that much gets stuck inside and is lost). Much of what you don't loose you'll cook bad enough to effect it's taste. All in all you stand to waste a lot of dollars in concentrate. OTOH, you're sure to vape up most of the oil you put in 2.4s (each will do several grams on average).

    Otherwise, you should consider running the 5 Ohm carts at 3.7 Volts. They will be slow, but they'll produce real vapor and won't burn or leak most likely.

    Good luck, as you note, it's a good system when you can control it.

    OF
     
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  15. kevin

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    Hey Bob
    One other option for you is to get the Iris, http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=Iris-Variable-Voltage-Persei-Top it's a VV head so you can set the voltage at what you want. This way you can start at say 6V w/5Ohm carts and get use to the power then slowly work your way up!
    I find this works GREAT for all carts, because all oils work different and need more or less power.
    This way you don't end up w/alot of burnt tasting oils and if you want more flavor try the 2.4Ohm carts at
    3.5V light vapor great taste. Plus if your 2.4's are getting old you can trun up the power adding some life.
    Hope this helps, small steps! IF NOT then throw on the double head and two 2.4's or 5Ohms and melt yourself!:smug:
    Kevin

    ****It sounds like you had an air bubble in the cart that lasted 20 hits.***
     
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  16. Bob Loblaw

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    fully agree w/ kev. love my iris
     
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  17. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    I must agree as well. It helped me diagnose the problem in one of my Hercules carts and I'm looking forward to trying it with the Bender when the need arises (I usually stay away from flower for the most part).
     
  18. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Guys Bob has a prototype LEELA so im waiting for feedback on it.
     
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  19. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    Nice. Any update on the Nibbler and will be it fit the Hercules carts?
     
  20. kevin

    kevin Well-Known Member

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    Hey G
    Is there a tread for us to post what we would like to see done to the Iris V2? Would be nice to get all the info in one place instead of 100 post of the same stuff over and over, plus we can make sure to get everything listed.
    If so could you please list the link here, if not could you please make that you will check on?
    Thanks
    Kevin
     
  21. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Still testing them out, and once we get the design right, well see about gettting it to work with the Hercules.

    You can pm your thoughts that would be best or post them up here.
     
  22. Goodlife101

    Goodlife101 Living The Good Life

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    so i was gifted a persei and herc cart and i must say this thing needs instructions for the herc cart.... so I came up here found some good info.. I boiled my carts but i was afraid of burning the mouth piece so I decided to run the unit without the heat shield or mouth piece with my supreme silicone nipple as the mouth piece. I couldn't really get it to work then I read the cart will eat your first .2 or something and i noticed i was seeping in to the unit somewhere. this made me nervous especially because i had boiled it already but it seems to work fine now after sucking some up so i assume it won't kill it or anything right? I got the 7.4 and i havent used flowers only oil but i have been able to produce some niiice clouds.. anyone got any special tips or tricks? seems to taste awesome though and im stoned as hell so it's working... these carts are supposed to last awhile correct?
     
  23. Bob Loblaw

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    video should be up in 10-15 min.


    i dig it! draw is a little restricted due to thickness of nail's center stem. helps with this style of dabbin', i think. also great for just side loaded dabs!
     
  24. kittyboy

    kittyboy Well-Known Member

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    i dig it! draw is a little restricted due to thickness of nail's center stem. helps with this style of dabbin', i think. also great for just side loaded dabs![/quote]


    lookin nice bob and seeing someone use hammer directly on erl. How long will hammer last if erl coated?
    also does dome come in two sizes for different glass? Is your glass the one sold at delta? nice clean design on that glass ...
     
  25. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I have 2 x 2.4 carts in use (One Indica and one Sativa) both good for at least 200 more rips each.
    3 x 5.0 carts are still in their wrappers I had 4 at one time however fried the first one when I was learning how to use my PERSEI.

    I have some batteries coming that will supply 6.0V at 1500mah to use with my 5.0 carts.
    My plan is to order some more 2.4's due to the extreme efficiency obtained.
    However I want to try and use my 5.0 cart inventory.
    I thought by operating the 5.0 carts at a lower Voltage I might stand a fighting chance?

    Batteries:
    AW IMR 18650 3.7V 1600mAH x 2
    Trust Fire 18650 1600mAH x 1
    AW IMR 18350 3.7V 700mAH x 4
    Trust Fire 18350 3.7 700mAH x 2
    On Order: Panosonic 3.0V 750mAH x2 (Plan to set this up with the 5.0 carts)

    The ideal is to operate them at less than 7.4V in my case 6.0V's.

    This is what I'm trying once the batteries arrive.
    If you think this is a bad Ideal please stop me!
     
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