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The Magic-Flight Box

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. sam reynolds

    sam reynolds because "Samantha" is a mouthful.

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    Their warranty for the Box itself covers absolutely everything, accidental or otherwise. I would hope the situation is the same for the Orbiter.
     
  2. meek420

    meek420 Well-Known Member

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    Not that anyone would, but the warranty doesn't cover intentional damage...

    That means no temper tantrums with physical acts of aggression directed at your MF gear.
     
  3. linux3214

    linux3214 Active Member

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    If accidental damage is covered then it will be the best coverage for glass on the market. At that price and coverage, it would be a great deal.
     
  4. Lokbok

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    All this glass talk is pushing me forward on getting one. I've always been interested in the past. My question is, are there any bubblers out there that are cheaper/more cost-efficient and at around the same size vs The Orbiter? I want quality, the whips, warranty, etc to all be considered. Thanks in advance.
     
  5. FlyingLow

    FlyingLow Team NO SLEEP!

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    Lost is pretty cost effective, in that you can just buy the top cap and a WPA to use with any of your existing water pipes.
     
  6. linux3214

    linux3214 Active Member

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    Lokbok, you could use a female hose adapter on an number of precoolers and ash catchers for a similar size and utility, but nothing I've found is as well designed and significantly cheaper than the Orbiter. I'm just waiting till 3rd party retailers can sell it without the shipping charge. Hopefully some appear in the classifieds soon.
     
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  7. KidFated.

    KidFated. Watch your pawking metaws.

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    Who would sell their lifetime warranty glass? I just wish the base was more secure. Kind of, for lack of a better word, ghetto.


    I wonder if there will be any bottom engravings?
     
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  8. Lokbok

    Lokbok Active Member

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    Is the bottom really not that secure? By all accounts I heard it was a pretty solid base.. but I don't personally know.
     
  9. KidFated.

    KidFated. Watch your pawking metaws.

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    It holds it there. But the bubble is able to wiggle. it won't fall out or anything.
     
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  10. Lokbok

    Lokbok Active Member

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    Ahh.. gotcha.. so its more of a personal tactile expectation that the Orbiter didn't completely meet.

    I'm curious how soon before we see it at other retailers so I can possibly use a coupon code or something to obtain one.
     
  11. KVVS

    KVVS Member

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    The Orbiter isnt available for wholesale distribution, but it would be cool if a couple of EU retailers could pick it up so EU people can get one too (even if it is without the warranty)


    Anyone got any links/guides on how to take care of the wood (in my case walnut) or waxing it?

    My google-fu didnt help me out.
     
  12. KidFated.

    KidFated. Watch your pawking metaws.

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    Read back a few pages and we discussed it. :)

    Edit-Im loving my power adapter!!! Dialed low for amazing flavor that i didnt expect from my box..
     
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  13. Lokbok

    Lokbok Active Member

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    If you wanna go the non-toxic route, I'd recommend Howard Butcher Block conditioner. Essentially it has mineral oil, bee's wax and Carnauba wax. The mineral oil will soak in and seal/season the wood while the wax adds a protective layer.

     
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  14. meek420

    meek420 Well-Known Member

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    I would have to agree that the base is kind of ghetto... as there is certainly room for improvement.

    No matter how much I fuss and fiddle with the metal arm, the bubble doesn't rest nicely in the base, the glass is slightly suspended above the wood.

    Because the glass is suspended, the base doesn't hold the glass entirely level (no matter what direction I orient the glass in the base). The uneven angle of the water can change the dynamics of how this thing functions as there is not a lot of internal real estate to trade off between water and air inside that lil' bubble, and I end up adding more water to get the same cooling I'd achieve if it were level.

    I cannot snug the metal slider all the way up - as pictured on the site.

    With all that empty space on the bottom I'd like to see some kind of etching or aphorism.

    Finally, there is a small somewhat ugly screw - also not pictured on the site - that has been inserted in the wood hole the metal arm extends from... It seems like more of an afterthought or a quick fix from the person that got tired of trying to manipulate that metal so the glass would rest flat and snug in the base.

    All things considered, my complaints are minor in the grand scheme of things, and I would buy the orbiter again, over and over [imperfections and all]. You really can't beat the price, it matches all the MF gear, and the warranty -- the warranty!
     
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  15. linux3214

    linux3214 Active Member

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    What size tubing is the water pipe whip made of? Can they be disassembled for cleaning?
     
  16. meek420

    meek420 Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure it is the 1/4" ID x 3/8" OD Silcon® Tubing from the link OF posted (http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=23884&catid=799) on page 896 (http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-magic-flight-box.750/page-896).

    Yes, it can dissassembled for cleaning, but I don't take it apart and usually poor ISO through the whip and use pipe cleaners.

    The tubing is connected to a short acrylic stem (like the mouthpiece) and the other half of this stem is connected to the glass. The wood fits around the tubing and glass so the vapor never touches the wood.

    It does not require much cleaning with heavy use, maybe once a week.

    [The one needing the most cleaning is the one that connects the LB to the Orbiter, the draw whip stays much cleaner]
     
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  17. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    With my whip adapter I can take it all apart. GonG comes out of the wooden piece with the whip and a small acrylic stem like @meek420 said. Don't let the acrylic stems sit in ISO for too long, it'll degrade them. meek's suggestion of pipe cleaners dampened with ISO is a good one, I used q-tips to the same effect. I found it simple to take apart and put back together, and I've been able to easily replace the whip when the time comes, or when I want a longer or shorter whip.
     
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  18. linux3214

    linux3214 Active Member

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    Thanks for the comprehensive explanation. Is it worth trying to reclaim the tubing?

    I've caved and ordered the Orbiter. With CA taxes, it amounted to almost $100.
     
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  19. meek420

    meek420 Well-Known Member

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    Way to go! Now you'll have loads of fun mastering your orbiter technique, it's so much more fun and much cooler too.

    I just was hit with a throat cold and then a stuffy nose cold, the orbiter made the LB so comfortable I was able to consume plenty. Without it I'm certain medicating would have been made more difficult with just the LB. This alone has already made it worth the purchase for me.

    Oh yeah -- I think salvaging anything from the tubing might be more trouble than it's worth as it may clog before collecting enough to make it worth it and sounds not very easy.
     
  20. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    You can if you want. I don't usually save it, just run it with warm ISO and dry it out before reassembling it.

    Try warm water in there, it's amazing!! Definitely moisturizes the vapors and makes them way smoother than cold water!
     
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  21. meek420

    meek420 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, warm water is very pleasant.
     
  22. Lokbok

    Lokbok Active Member

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    Yea.. thats seriously whats been stopping me. I had the Orbiter in my cart and was about to check out yesterday until I realized how much shipping and tax tacked on. I might wait it out just a lil longer to see if they will eventually have it at retailers so that I can either get it locally or find an online retailer with a coupon code or free shipping + no tax.
     
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  23. linux3214

    linux3214 Active Member

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    Well, I've looked around on massdrop and Magic Flight isnt doing wholesale distribution at the moment and with no date in sight, I didnt want to wait for months only to give in then.
     
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  24. Ano

    Ano FC Lover

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    Magic Flight just shared this video of the orbiter on their facebook page :
     
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  25. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    LOL. ^^ MF porn, especially with the choice of music.
     

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