The Magic-Flight Box

Me either. Maybe we can give our lubricant to the guys.

I still haven't received mine, but I imagine it will be any day now.

new batteries!! i gotta keep a look out for a couple of these... i knew i made a good investment w/ my MFLB's... things just get better and better, from upgrades to accessories... its exciting knowing there's always things in the works to improve performance and the overall experience... i cant wait to see the concentrates solution... also to see if there are any other plans for that o ring on top of the trench... MF aint even close to done yet.. rite on..
I think i would like those stronger batteries a lot.. even though i do like less power a lot of the time...
- I did have a question about the PA... i was wondering if anyone out there has theirs plugged in all the time, i usually try to unplug when not in use but it gets kind of annoying ha.. the outlet is in a weird spot.. is it best to unplug it wen not in use or is it not a big deal to leave it plugged in all the time...

Has anybody else experimented with vaping a trench quicker using careful taps on the bottom of the Box to "toss" the flowers, a bit like a salad, or food in a frying pan? I hold the box from it's back end and push in the battery with my left hand, and I tap the front-bottom of the box with my right. I've been having pretty good success it seems, call me vaped… I can usually clear a decent sized trench in one medium length hit if I do it right. I'm using the 3-foot MF whip, but with people getting their WPW's I figure it could prove useful to many…


A little more info. When I first tried doing this, I noticed that a lot more vapor quickly appeared in the chamber. This wasn't was I'd expected, as I'd thought there'd be trouble keeping enough material at vaping temperatures when it's being tossed in the air.

To me this means that the material that is making contact with the screen is hitting a higher temperature. To compensate I draw just a little more quickly (at a more comfortable rate, really, since my lungs are on the larger side and the traditional MFLB draw is so slow)

The result, I think, is the herb getting cooked not only at a slightly higher temperature but also more evenly because I'm bouncing the herbs around. I don't have any glass so I can't test, but I imagine one could milk up a chamber nicely by doing this.

I toss/tap to keep the screen clear during a trench, i try to keep it to a min. cuz it seems to make more of a mess in the trench w/ a fine dust that seems to char much faster than the rest of the load.. Now n then i try to kill a trench in few hits to switch things up... but through water (or not), i usually take the temp from low to high and i get ~10 tasty lung fulls from a full trench(i think, it gets hard to keep track ha)... i milk somewhat thick, rip faster to cool/slower to milk, pulsing the battery (PA~60% through water) as needed.. i usually mix between hits... i use a much smaller water filter now, i used to use a big glass bong but i found it not necessary for me and it was easier to combust w/, so i rigged up a much smaller air-travel piece w/ a much skinnier down stem and i like it better...

since i used a pen tube for the down stem, i ditched the whip setup i had and covered the glass mouth stem w/ silicone tubing and let it hang over about 1/4" and it fits up perfectly to the pen cone easily... i didn't plan on it but this janky bubbler replaced my glass bong ha.. its just more practical for me...

how much do you guys load in your trench? I'm still fiddling with technique, but I find that less is more with the MFLB and it seems to like a very fine grind. Also, I hit native most of the time. Would you recommend using the stem? if so, which one works best.
Sorry if I'm asking some old questions, but this is a good and useful discussion by advanced users.

"Less is More" definitely works for me because it allows me to switch between strains easily. I'm quite low-tolerance because I only vape 3 or 4 times per week, so a very small load at the bottom of the trench is enough to get me very happy .

Then if I want to have a little Sativa during the day, but then switch to an Indica at night, I don't have to keep switching what is in the trench. One or two hits from any small trench, then it goes into my ABV container and I then have an empty trench - sometimes even just put a bit of herbal blend from Blissville if I don't really want to get vaked.

Iv'e only had my box for just over a couple months now... I prefer the stem mainly because i eat a lot of greasy food haha and i'm just used to it now.. i hit native sometimes too ha.. i used to always prefer a lighter load(~1/3 trench) but lately iv'e been filling it up to the top every time w/ good results(cant even finish it sometimes)... seems to vape up more dense and heat up slower and more even somehow??, also it seems to keep me from over browning, not sure though but it seems to be less work and its been working best for me... i like to dry out before i grind.. i have to grind and then repack the grinder w/ the grind and regrind to get it as fine as i like..my grinder isn't the best ha but it works for me... in fact its the only grinder iv'e ever owned and iv'e had it for ever... some acrylic pyramid tooth grinder.ha...

The stem is really no different from native. Native may be harder to figure out for beginners first figuring out technique. I like native more because it is easier to control the temperature of the vapor.

Do I read "oil/concentrate adapter" here? That would be so nice!

Wow! Vapenow is having a HUGE sale! This is the price for an MFLB kit: $77.34! I don't think I can put in the direct link, but I just wanted to pass on the news!

sorry, too medicated

I've been successful in loading a small amount of wax, waiting for the first signs of it melting, then tilting the box to have the now liquid spread evenly over the screen. Few hits later the flavor is gone, clean the screen with a qtip while the box is warm.
Little to no run through.

Anyone else do it this way?

I preferred native, when I first got my box, as I could feel the temps easier. Rarely go native now... Might use a short stem, but its either a stem or connected to a water piece.

yea i think i would like a shorty stem better than native.. never tried it

im not brave enough to try that ... cant argue w/ results tho .. How clean does it stay by cleaning it right away? i like to use a rolling paper to protect the screen when i do it...

So I vape away until I get that reclaim taste, then "unload" as it were by opening the window, push in battery, quickly swab screen focusing on visible oil or spots where vapor is still coming off the screen. Qtips work great, the oil is very much liquid and readily absorbed.

Other times I just keep going, flavor may be gone but if you got an even enough spread the screen is auctally enough to hold .1-.15 without any run through. (Most I have run through at one time is .15)

Depending on your taste/habit you can peel off the cotton from swabbing and give it another go in whatever vape can accommodate the cotton method.

I feel it worth mentioning that my oils/waxes melt to straight liquid, so I don't have to worry about contaminants clogging my screen, which is where I feel most people who try this run into issues.

Would you like pictures? To get an idea of what may happen to your MFLB using this method?

That's cool that u can keep it clean... ya good oil only id imagine i wouldn't trust just any oil.. that's cool u can do a cotton swab reclaim too... it would b cool to put some pics out there

I just asked this question in the DBV thread, i was wondering how comparable if at all the MFLB+PA is to it? im thinking id like a desk top now but i dont no that its really worth it because im satisfied, but id just like something different for switching things up some times...

Edit +1.5hrs: My PA convinced me to save my money for now... checking out all the different vapes makes me want to spend money for sure haha... but theres still a lot of vapes i havent looked at so i might as well hold off

Buidozer, that's normal. It's called VAS and there is no cure. Take two puffitup discount codes and call me in the morning.

Hahaha. Buildozer.
Here's what happens...
You get the pa and its the most awesomest thing ever. EVER. Than you get the glass attachments and than you get all the toys with it and its great. And you're good. For like a couple weeks. Maybe. But you made some great hash from the abv and you're not quite sure how to use it best cause the box can be a bit grimy with it.
Than you get the vg coil cause it was mad cheap And that's cool cause it does hash. Sorta kinda. And bangs bongs that brings you back old school.and it's good and great for the end of the world next week. Than you get a t1. And oh shit look out. Look the fuck out. Than you rock a dart. And that's real fun too. Sure much more fun with gooood errl. But the bday UD went on sale!!??! Ad oh shit again... The FC limited bub just got here!! And you get a vvps. And some other shit. And waitin for a Wong... And a HI. And you high as hell... Just sittin'

Sooooo...
What's you gonna do man?

I'm reading this post thinking "damn, this dude's been spying on me or something".

We've been afflicted in a very similar fashion, GP. Now go get yourself a Cloud and a Mobius Ion and be done with it.

Hahaha stu. I'm waiting here thinking how many more are on the list.

The ion is def on the wish list. Pretty close to being next. Prolly be good. maybe. The cloud... I like it havent tried it... but I don't know... On the fence about that one.

The HI when my number comes up but than who knows? That might be a bit. Hmmmmmm.....

The epic AND the hot pod too....

Jeeezzzzz..... VAS is the new fuckin' crack.

I've seen this movie before. Spoiler alert: Enjoy your Cloud.

It's ironic to me that you don't even know yet that it was be the best decision you ever made.

haa... i know... i never expected this to happen hahaha... but i think im gonna end up w/ the extreme q for my first desktop cuz i found one locally for $80 i just gotta bring my own power cord ha cuz its missing.. i wanna check it out first though... ha if i could afford the cloud.... i suppose one day ill end up spending much more on many others like u 2 said ha... but for now i wanna give my LBs a break from constant heavy use aaha

If you want the EQ and you're willing to pick it up from LA/OC border, I'll gift you mine. I don't use it much any more, but it works fine. Save yourself $80 in the process. PM me if interested.