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The Grasshopper

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by midgetsanchez, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Hopper Labs is still dealing with quite a few returns even now. I just want them to work on getting the GH the best it can be. Then they can work on accessories. I will be sending mine back soon for repair. They already try to get folks to buy some of their new products for the GH. The case is too expensive IMO. Like the high performance front end? Why that couldn't have been included with the newer GHs on the market?

    If they could just make this unit to match the potential they intially promised. I would be happy.

    Edit
    The problem with the oils collecting on the battery condenser is an issue. That's one of the problems that I have and the back end clicker. Often it takes several clicks to get the GH to turn on. It will also turn on while just sitting on the table without being touched.
     
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  2. Mr Mellish

    Mr Mellish Well-Known Member

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    Yesterday, I decided to dig through my old shit and found a 3" piece of tubing. Holy hell does that change the GH experience! No extreme lip singe and the vapor was cough-free. Guess I'm going to have to get these bad boys fixed so I can get them back in the rotation.
     
  3. btka

    btka Well-Known Member

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    ok hoped they fixed the issues with gh... my last rma was 8 months ago (but I did not only use my gh strictly) I thought they have nailed the issues... also it seems l7ke they now use a different material for the heater... looks like they are not 3d printing ss heaters (I only come to this conclusion because I have seen photos of new ghs and the heater (if it is the heater) is white (seems like ceramic or zirconia)...

    and the ss case is not availablemat their hp...
     
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  4. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    They finally raised the price of Hopper as they had said they would before Labor Day, then revised that to Sept. 5, which didn't happen. Now I see SS have gone from $200 to $225 and Ti have gone from (as I recall) $250 to $265. All this adding to my being so pleased with my smart self for being an early bird. :) (My multiple SS's were at $135 and a Ti at $150).

    But why drop the silicone condom from the deal? Could have easily accounted for keeping it in the package with this price bump.
    And why is condom still unavailable? Is it possible something unsafe has been discovered about this accessory? We are only left to wonder...

    Now if they'd just send the leather sleeve that was supposed to be included with the Ti that I received over a year ago......:\
     
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  5. btka

    btka Well-Known Member

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    regarding the silicone condom maybe they have problems sourcing them on the otherside I only used it with my bubbler before the pfe existet so it is no problem for me... also I never needed it when using my gh native...
     
  6. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Leather sleeve? SS case? Concentrate thing? Condoms?

    If it was a running gag it's getting boring...don't :horse:

    Seems to be rocket science to develope and produce these items....
     
  7. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    I really doubt they're having "problems sourcing" all of these items!
     
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  8. splitz

    splitz Well-Known Member

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    3rd RMA for me - hopper returned home at the beginning of August with a new (white) oven installed. She worked for 2 weeks and then dead once again (no power at all this time). 3rd RMA now opened and they are shipping a new body and backend out before returning defective parts.

    I'm wondering if it is my excessive use of the stainless PFE causing heat related issues? I no longer use the stock mouthpiece. I use mainly though water in back-to-back sessions and the PFE gets waaaay too hot to touch. The addition of an Aromed glass mouthpiece and half inch of silicone tubing makes for great thermal decouple for the lips.
     
  9. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    Stick with it, it took three back to back rma's with my unit to get a reliable high-performing one. For myself the third time was the charm, well four really but mine works really well now no looking back. Good luck!

    :rockon:
     
  10. alex91

    alex91 Active Member

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    Hi, I'm from Brazil and currently have a SBJr, Mighty and an OmniVap.

    I'd like to add a stealthy on demand battery replaceable vaporizer to my collection and I'm torn between the GH Ti and the Firewood 4. Actually, I'm a little bit more prone to get the GH, but I've been reading there are a lot of problems yet.

    Should I risk it? Is it worth for me, an international customer, or should I wait for the GH 2 or wait until they finally fix most issues they're having (maybe never?)?



    Thanks.
     
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  11. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    Honestly, I'd wait. Chances are good that you'd need to do an RMA at some point based on the history of this thread. :2c:

    PS Seja bem vindo ao FC!

    :peace:
     
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  12. Vapor_Eyes

    Vapor_Eyes unfiltered

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    For the last few months I've been using my Grasshoppers almost exclusively with concentrates wrapped in organic cotton. That means they are pretty much always at temp 5. Most of my usage has been completely native, no silicone condom. Hell, I still have a condom that's brand new and sealed in the original wrapper.

    Lately I've been using a j-hook here and there which is a nice change of pace. I prefer the more robust vapor using it natively, but the mouthpiece just gets too hot sometimes with back to back hits. With flowers I tend to hit it once and be good for a while but with concentrates I get best results with two hits in a row. The first hit seems to melt and "prime" the concentrate and the second hit is always much bigger than the first.

    My Grasshoppers have held up really well, no RMAs even with this usage. Sometimes it feels like they aren't reaching max temp but for the most part they perform well. I wouldn't mind a higher temp ceiling for concentrate use, maybe 430°F instead of 410°F.
     
  13. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    Wanted to do a "DAILY CARRY!!" post for so long but finally doing it :rolleyes:

    To start with here is my manly hippy camo pouch with hopper battery for size comparison
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    Was going to get some super duper hardcase but never did as I could never figure the size I needed

    Now I have a much better idea with all my basics hopper tools laid out
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    This is what I think is needed for hopping

    1. multiple batteries in a carry case with "+" sign to align full batteries towards it, nothing I found fits better and is as small as the bag they come in, just cut into size and it functions as a herb tray and hopper filler :wave:
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    2. External charger unless your satisfied with the hopper lab one
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    Mine worked .. one time so glad to have that for travel and a full sized one for home (don't give damn about charge current as long it's under 1 amp so don't start)

    3. Some kind of extender on your mouth piece because I like to take huge rips on the go or long back-to-back sessions where the hopper frontend just gets to hot
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    Tiny foldable pipe works wonders or whatever random stuff you can put together, here is a 18to18 male with a Davinci ascent glass stem inside :science:
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    Other things are an AVB container, bag of herbs (wormwood not weed), little capsules for daily dosage, wooden skewer, little concentrate jar, tiny hard bristle brush and sticky tag for cleaning.

    Bonus picture and pro-tip
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    Keeping a metallic object in a loose bag with the hopper can be unnerving, even though it has protection from it completing a circuit when something conductive touches pin and temp dial
    I just put some silicon tubing over it but can still easily turn the dial

    So if your thinking about getting a hopper then A) it's not a bullet proof vape but hits like a champion, B) lots of spare batteries, C) figure out a extender for the mouthpiece

    :bigleaf:

    Thus my longest post was born :brow:
     
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  14. frank grimes

    frank grimes Active Member

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    Wait... Did I miss something? Is there talk of a grasshopper 2 already?

    i know the gh has been out for 2 years but it seems like their operation stabilized only less than a year ago. Waiiting for a second version is like waiting for the next eclipse....
     
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  15. CarbonFiberGuy

    CarbonFiberGuy Well-Known Member

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    So long time member here and I don't post much unless I really think it's worth mentioning. Just picked up two hoppers in the last month to use on rotation. I took the advice of this forum to have a back up when one needs to be sent in for repair . Glad I did because the first one stopped heating in two weeks of use . I now have both back working correctly.

    I've been through just about every portable out there and even with the reliablity issues there is just nothing that is fast and descrete as having the hopper loaded on you throughout the day. I really got these to replace the fast hits of a dab pen while out and about. I really can't think of anything else that comes close .

    That's the problem though the hopper is only good in that scenario when it's pre loaded . I ended up having to take a little ziplock with a stash tube, poker, and folded business card to funnel material in . I'm not slick enough to do that with anyone around me .

    So I searched online and came across the grasshopper feeder . This thing was reviewed pages back . The member seemed to like it. I contemplated on it for a few days just because I thought it was maybe a little expensive for accessory I don't necessarily need . Then that Weekend I was put in a situtation where the feeder would have really come in handy . So I said screw it... Bought it on eBay from dgfeeder . Unfortunately for us in the states he is located in Israel so it did take about a week to get .

    I have to say this thing really gives me what I was looking for with my hopper on the go . I can dump a load and reload in maybe 10 seconds with out even thinking about it. I can also load it while walking , in public , or windy conditions . It's actually faster to load than a dab pen now which I thought was gonna impossible with all other techniques I've tried . The load is just absolutly perfect too. It fills to the top and usually just falls out when it's done being vaped with a little tap to it's not packing it , just a nice full fluffy pack . It must be the spring tension and piston are set just perfect . Packing the hopper with my folded business card and shoving it in there lead to mostly tight packs for me so this is great .

    I was worried about the lid maybe coming open , but no issues in my pocket, dropped it and it does not come off. The way the lid is designed with the latch and magnet is actually extremely secure and easy to open . Nothing comes out , or gets into the lids recess , it's a very nice , easy, clean system .

    I have ran about 6g through the dg Feeder and no sign of piston system getting clogged . Mine came with instructions for use , the last review said no instructions , but it's pretty self explainatory . Only issue I really had was learning how to remove the piston for cleaning once it was inserted . Once I read the directions a few times and played with it I figured it out . It's all actually really simple .

    Anywase this little fucking thing is the best thing since sliced bread for the hopper . I know I sound like I'm a sales man, but I have no relation to dg feeder. I payed full price on eBay and couldn't be happier . His wonderful invention is really gonna make my hopper experience a more enjoyable one.


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  16. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    The Grasshopper Feeder is perfect for reloading on the go or discreetly!
    I also have their 3D printed bubbler, though I've hardly used it since getting the PFE.
    Both are great designs with function to match.

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  17. Vapetrees

    Vapetrees Vaped Out

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    I didn't even know that device existed. Seems pretty cool, I just don't like the fact it's not as pocketable as the GH itself. I usually carry the GH and a doob tube in my pocket and refill it that way. I would buy this to use at home though.
     
  18. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    It's reasonably pocketable, the size is like a square deck of cards.
    The advantage of it is it completely hides the contents and it can be used quickly and relatively easily. It would be my go to packing solution in public, at home I just fill it with pinches from a bowl or my grinder.

    I took my feeder to the circus once, it was super handy and made the whole thing worth it
     
  19. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    @MoltenTiger been wanting the feeder but someone talked about plastic particles off the feeder but maybe that is not an issue or been solved?

    Otherwise a brilliant tool for the hopper arsenal
     
  20. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I brought that up after I had used the feeder a bit.
    I decided that I would not use it for every load, to avoid potential exposure (mainly to the colourants, the plastic itself is safe food grade PLA).
    You can opt to get it printed in unadultered PLA, like the bubbler is in my pic.

    The amount of potential exposure is extremely minimal, probably negligible. But as someone who vapes as a health conscious way to consume, it was worth considering for me. However what I discovered was that
    A.) No one can say with any confidence how bad it could be to accidentally consume PLA or colour dyes
    B.) There's no evidence to suggest any expected side effects
     
  21. btka

    btka Well-Known Member

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    I also wanted to purchase the feeder but he issues with the plastic particles kept me off.. maybe a feeder made out of ss or any other material would be great ... another accessoerie idea for ghl maybe...
     
  22. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all the pics!
    This last tip reminded me, since I still sometimes use the silicone mp...
    The silicone mp can be used as a "cover" for the on/off switch/back end during transport. It fits rather snugly on the back end, and will not slip off, as can happen when it's left on the mp end of hopper. It prevents metal contact, also pretty completely eliminates the possibility of Hopper clicking on while in pocket. Keeps dust/dirt out of high-tech back end. So, I put it on the back end and insert that end 'down' in pocket, so there's less chance pocket crud can get into mp hole. Props to my wife for stumbling on to this.
     
  23. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Got a nice gift from @vapen00b. A ThermoVape Pure-Flow Moisture Conditioner.

    [​IMG]


    Works pretty good as a driptip on the PFE. Not a perfect seal but pretty good. Cooling and moisturizing of vape is so good, couldn't believe that's is caused just by this tiny thing - recommandation!
    At AustralianVaporizers it's actually discounted down to 5$

    EDIT: BTW yesterday failed my RMAed hopper which I like so much more than my 1st one. Seems to be a kind of sensor damage. It doesn't go to blue anymore. All the time it's heating up more and more. Had a terrible experience of combustion with my hopper....fuckit!
     
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  24. slcbdco

    slcbdco Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist

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    The feeder is awesome. They also make a 2 sided one to have two strains on the go. My only advice is remove the spring. The spring gets gunky, and after you clean it starts to rust but the feeder works just fine without the spring.

    Both the single and double fit well in the pocket.
     
  25. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    YOU MADMAN!
     

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