The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

redshift

Well-Known Member
Just got my Q in the mail yesterday. Smaller and lighter than I thought but hey, not complaining. Just one question - is the tubing that comes with it safe to expose to iso? I clean the parts from my iolite in iso every once in a while and get some iso hash out of the deal, but I know it can also leech some nasty shit from some materials.
 
redshift,

saeton

Well-Known Member
Using this vaporizer (first one ever) is still a learning experience. Every time I think i got it all figured out, there's a new question it seems.

Now I'm having a hard time getting high high (head high). I have a few new sativas like XJ-13, Fruity OG, and Kali Mist, but I'm not getting bombed high like I want to (on occasion, of course... mostly medical user). When I first started with the Extreme, I was using the cyclone bowl filled 1/3 and whatever the default temp was or about that (maybe 180, 185, 190 c) and i remember getting real head high.

Then went way too high (210-230) and only got tired, then turned way down to 160-180 based on that temp list, and not getting the same kind of high as before, if any. Went back to 180-190c but with elbow pack or 'electrician set up' and I'm seeing a lot of thick vapor, but not feeling high. If I recall correctly, I wasn't seeing so much vapor before and was getting pretty head high, and now that I am seeing lots of vapor, only seeming to get tired rather than silly or excited or whatev.

Any recommendations or similar feelings? Anyone use those strains with the Extreme and have some advice for temps?
 
saeton,

daddygreenjeans

Med Card Holder
Hey guys, what size is the male gong fitting like on those elbow pieces? They look to be around 19mm?
 
daddygreenjeans,

hereatlast

Well-Known Member
redshift--The tubing should not be exposed to ISO, others on this site have shared experiences in which the tubing gets stiff and white after ISO. I don't think the stock tubing is stable enough, you'll probably get some leeching. The higher medical grade tubing on the other hand seems to hold up pretty well to an ISO wash.

daddygreenjeans---its a standard 18mm I think.
 
hereatlast,

realvapedman

Well-Known Member
I got my Extreme Q on monday. After setting it up, I tripped over the power cord and knocked my Q onto the floor off of the table dumping my buds out of the cyclone bowl and onto the rug before I even got a chance to take my first drag. Anyway, happy to say nothing broke and the Q seems to be not as fragile as I thought it would be. I find that a starting temp of 195 degs C is perfect and I increase the temp by 5-10 degs when the vapor starts to get really thin (after about 3-4 good rips). Elbow packed bowls are the way Im doing it because I noticed my buds only got a light golden brown when vaping in the cyclone bowl as opposed to vaping in the elbow which leaves my herbs a darker brown (proof Im extracting more from my buds). I noticed that the compounds that seem to get you the highest dont volatize until about 210-215 degs C readout on the LCD. I also noticed that the vapor produced at higher temps has almost no taste to it (even though you can still see some vapor) but it still gets you ripped up. I beleive the CBD compounds that volatize at much higher temps than THC are the compounds that get you really stoned. I also beleive that you do not extract all the active compounds from your bud until you have pushed the temperature envelope to as close to combustion as possible without actually burning your herb. I max out on 235 degs C because Im afraid if I go too high Im gonna burn out my lungs with hot air because I use the direct whip. LOL! Probably not possible, but why take the risk. Also you gotta let the bowl warm up before you take your first hit. Usually about 3-5 minutes after the LCD temp readout stabilizes. I just touch the middle of the cyclone bowl. When it feels really warm to the touch its ready. You cant go by just the LCD readout because thats the core temp. It takes another 3 minutes for the glass to warm up. I use the whip almost exclusively (never been much of a bag man but I did try the bag attachment and it surely fills bags to the brim on fan speed 3). After manually hitting the whip a few times, I like to turn the fan on setting 2 and do some fan assisted hits to give my lungs a chance to rest. You dont have to suck as hard with the fan on. The remote control is really handy, not just bling IMO. I really love my new Extreme Q. I want to get some aftermarket bowls and elbows for my Q. I saw some with a larger diameter whip and beautiful colored glass also made in Canada. Something that adds moisture to your vapor is a MUST!!! I will definitely be getting something for my E-Q that will add moisture to my vapor. Any suggestions??? I hope more people start blowing glass for this unit. Its really that good, and I beleive Arizer will be here to stay and continue devoloping this and other products. I'm very happy. Now all I gotta do is grow more bud because this unit has got me vaping every chance I get.
 
realvapedman,

fidget

Well-Known Member
realvapedman said:
I got my Extreme Q on monday. After setting it up, I tripped over the power cord and knocked my Q onto the floor off of the table dumping my buds out of the cyclone bowl and onto the rug before I even got a chance to take my first drag. Anyway, happy to say nothing broke and the Q seems to be not as fragile as I thought it would be. I find that a starting temp of 195 degs C is perfect and I increase the temp by 5-10 degs when the vapor starts to get really thin (after about 3-4 good rips). Elbow packed bowls are the way Im doing it because I noticed my buds only got a light golden brown when vaping in the cyclone bowl as opposed to vaping in the elbow which leaves my herbs a darker brown (proof Im extracting more from my buds). I noticed that the compounds that seem to get you the highest dont volatize until about 210-215 degs C readout on the LCD. I also noticed that the vapor produced at higher temps has almost no taste to it (even though you can still see some vapor) but it still gets you ripped up. I beleive the CBD compounds that volatize at much higher temps than THC are the compounds that get you really stoned. I also beleive that you do not extract all the active compounds from your bud until you have pushed the temperature envelope to as close to combustion as possible without actually burning your herb. I max out on 235 degs C because Im afraid if I go too high Im gonna burn out my lungs with hot air because I use the direct whip. LOL! Probably not possible, but why take the risk. Also you gotta let the bowl warm up before you take your first hit. Usually about 3-5 minutes after the LCD temp readout stabilizes. I just touch the middle of the cyclone bowl. When it feels really warm to the touch its ready. You cant go by just the LCD readout because thats the core temp. It takes another 3 minutes for the glass to warm up. I use the whip almost exclusively (never been much of a bag man but I did try the bag attachment and it surely fills bags to the brim on fan speed 3. After manually hitting the whip a few times, I like to turn the fan on setting 2 and do some fan assisted hits to give my lungs a chance to rest. You dont have to suck as hard with the fan on. The remote control is really handy, not just bling IMO. I really love my new Extreme Q. I want to get some aftermarket bowls and elbows for my Q. I saw some with a larger diameter whip and beautiful colored glass also made in Canada. Something that adds moisture to your vapor is a MUST!!! I will definitely be getting something for my E-Q that will add moisture to my vapor. Any suggestions??? I hope more people start blowing glass for this unit. Its really that good, and I beleive Arizer will be here to stay and continue devoloping this and other products. I'm very happy. Now all I gotta do is grow more bud because this unit has got me vaping every chance I get.
aaaaaaaand breathe.....

some good points there.
 
fidget,

realvapedman

Well-Known Member
Hi!

I have an Extreme Q and I was wondering what is the best way to add moisture to my vapor coming from my Extreme Q? My lungs are feeling a little dried out from hitting direct from my Q. Would the answer be to get a glass water bong and connect my Q to it with an adapter?? I heard they make aftermarket glass whip and elbow adapters for the Extreme. I just want to get some feedback. Websites with Extreme glass accesories would be helpful too.

-Thanks in advanced!
 
realvapedman,

gim

Well-Known Member
It seems to me it would be pretty simple to either take the mouth piece off completely or find a replacement that would fit in the stem of your water pipe. From there, you could also have an O ring around the tubing or the glass piece going down into the pipe.

I've noticed that taking whip hits has been irritating my throat I think, so I will be experimenting with utilizing my old water pipe to see if it helps any.
 
gim,

Persona Non Grata

turn on, tune in, hulk out
check out post 606. something like that would be sweet

I vape thru my bong sometimes by just putting a rubber grommet on the whip, stick that in the downstem
 
Persona Non Grata,

hereatlast

Well-Known Member
I vaporbong through a simple Ehle 250 ml. The bong does well to moisturize the vapor, something I don't think I could turn back from now; a little ice does wonders for big hits as well.


Personally, especially with vapor, I think Glass on Glass (GonG) is the way to go; when I first got the Extreme I just used my grommet-joint bong and the Extreme mouthpiece fit perfectly into the joint though it wasn't GonG per se. Once I made the upgrade I realized what I was missing, the GonG seal allows a much better and tighter air-flow, something important when you're pulling through both glass and tubing; also the GonG seal is just easier, slips in, slips out.







This is what I use to use to connect the tubing to the GonG joint on the bong. Notice that this is for a 14mm joint, if you have an 18mm GonG bong you could just use the Extreme elbow in place of a dedicated 'water adaptor.'
http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/vbh20adgg.html
vbh20adgg.jpg
 
hereatlast,

Mark

John Brown
daddygreenjeans said:
Hey guys, what size is the male gong fitting like on those elbow pieces? They look to be around 19mm?
18.9 mm just like bongs/lab equipment is correct.
 
Mark,

steven22

Well-Known Member
Konrad_Zuse said:
steven22 said:
my v3, i guess is efficient, compared to a blunt or a bong

but, I vape at a much high frequency than I would with combustion because my body can handle it.. so there goes my saved weed.

I need 1-2 bags for myself to reach my level... usually 2 bags. my bowls loaded only halfway in the non rubber section of the cyclone is about .2 grams those .2 grams will give me 3 bags....usually 2 really good ones and 1 sorta weak one.


I tried to mess around with the elbow ones aLOT.... but it seems that one elbow is just not enough to get anymore than 80% of a bag... I notice that after the 80% of the bag filled with vapor, the remaining 20% is just diluting the bag with air because the elbow pack is done by that time.

elbows on whip is amazing.... but i still prefer the convenience of the bag. *I lay on my bed vaping while on the laptop*

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a Glass pipe to me is more efficient than my extreme vape (I barely use the pipe) but whenever I do, I just need a small pinch and it will give a handful of solid hits that send me off.

and I have a magic flight launch box which is more efficient than both and is what I usually use for on the go toking.

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Can someone show me a more efficient way than the cyclone bowl or elbow pack to make bags on the extreme, Im all ears.
Hey man, I use an Extreme, and I would like to ask what temps you use? I filled up 10 FULL E bags with .45 in my cyclone. I ALSO got to use that bud the next day and still get high, so yeah I don't know what you were using in .2, and what temps you were using, but 3 bags isn't a lot for that amount. I use 200C/392F for my bags. Gives me nice thick bags.
Jesus... 10 bags?... iv never put .5 grams in my e yet, i dont need that much personally... but still i never thought 10 bags was possible

the most iv ever gotten was 5 bags, and the 5th bag being thin.

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I vape at 170 then move to 190 , then 205, then 220 for 4 bags usually. never really went above 220.... felt that it would combust at the high temps the extreme offers (250 260.. etc)

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When you want to entertain only yourself, (assuming that you dont smoke 10 bags urself) how much bud, and what temps do you use?... and how many bags do you get?
 
steven22,

tdavie

Unconscious Objector
I put anywhere from 0.2 to 0.5g in the Cyclone bowl. If I put 0.2g in, I'll collect 1, maybe 2 bowls at 190C/210C. If I put 0.5g in the bowl, I'll collect bags from 140-210. Sometimes with 0.5g, I'll use the whip and go from 100C and work my way on up. I purposely try to leave some good stuff in the ABV/AVB so that I can use it in Cannabutter.

I'm only starting to enjoy the whip in the last couple of weeks. Don't know if it uses less than when collecting bags, but it is a different, abeit enjoyable method of using the vaporizer. Using it hands free, I can just manage to play video games :)

Tom
 
tdavie,

saeton

Well-Known Member
Is the vapor a different thickness at different temps? I notice at some lower temps it's not as visible but I'm definitely getting high and other times it seems thicker but I'm not getting as high. Sometimes people on here talk about getting 'thick tasty hits' but it doesn't always seem like heavier is working the same way... maybe...?
 
saeton,

realvapedman

Well-Known Member
saeton said:
Is the vapor a different thickness at different temps? I notice at some lower temps it's not as visible but I'm definitely getting high and other times it seems thicker but I'm not getting as high. Sometimes people on here talk about getting 'thick tasty hits' but it doesn't always seem like heavier is working the same way... maybe...?
There is a trick to vaping. You gotta make sure your bowl gets warm for a minute or two right where your herbs are. On the Q, if you elbow pack for first hits like I do, you gotta wait for your elbow bowl to warm up too. I set it to 190 degs C and touch the cylcone bowl 2/3 the way up once every minute. When it feels really warm I take a realy long slow drag, and most times by the time my lungs are 75% full from that first hit I'm getting really thick tasty vapor. When I cant suck in any more I take the whip out of my mouth and drop the temp down 20 degs to 170 so as not to let my buds cook and loose precious vapor while I'm holding in my hit. After I exhale (very thin vapor cloud on exhale cuz my lungs absorb most of it but I know I got good vapor cuz I get that familiar warming feeling in my lungs followed by a head change and then finally with tsweet tasty cool flavor on the exhale). You wont get any vapor off of a cold bowl. Even though the temp gauge says 190 the bowl has not yet caught up to the temp of the element (and it never will, but the bowl itself has to get up to at least 160-170 in order to get decent vapor hits). If you let your bowl warm up for too long then you will loose active vapor. Its a balancing act and you gotta learn that the best vapor comes when you hit it during that optimum window of opportunity when you warm up your buds. Not too cold, and not too hot, but just right and dont let your buds bake. Turn down the heat 20 degs when your not dragging from it and raise your temp only by 5 degs everytime you hit. I top out at 230-240 (by the time you hit that temp your buds are literally toast). Your buds will last for at least 4-6 worthwhile hits from .25 g of potent herb in the elbow, and then you can get another 4-6 hits on the bottom of the cyclone bowl where the temp is higher then in the elbow. What I do is after I got everything out of my herb in the elbow I turn the heat back down to 160 and dump my herbs into the bottom of the cyclone bowl from the elbow. Then I turn up the heat back to 180 and vape whatever is left increasing 5 degs every hit, using the fan sometimes as an assist cuz my lungs get tired of dragging sometimes. I top out at 230-240 degs C and by then I got dark brown popcorn kernels bouncing around in my bowl. Turn the unit down to 130 wait a minute for it to cool, remove whip and bowl, let elbow cool down for a few minutes, reload elbow, re-attach bowl and whip, set to 185-190 and do it all over again. This time it wont take so long to warm your elbow cuz the unit is already pre-heated. I dont know what I would do without a digital temp gauge. That temp reading is so important because you will memorize certain temps for different stages in the vaping process of a single bowl. 2 or 3 bowls of .25g of potent herb and you will be high and bright for sure. Best thing is no ashes, no nasty smell, no burning lungs, and look at all the tasty hash you can collect from your bowls and whips. Is it just me or do you also think of dry-roasted peanuts when your vaping?? LOL! I want to know how butane honey oil turns out using ABV buds. Anybody try it??
 
realvapedman,

gim

Well-Known Member
If you let your bowl warm up for too long then you will loose active vapor.
If you're worried about saving consumption, why not just start at 170? Even though you're not getting 'thick' hits, slowly raising the temp could really only be the most effective way. I've found that when I can taste it on inhale I'm usually getting some THC. The high is slow to come on and it takes many more hits but I can pretty effectively string out an elbow pack when I'm by myself.
 
gim,

realvapedman

Well-Known Member
I just picked up a Delux Dual Screen Hand Kit Whip from Vaporstore.com

Here's a link... https://www.vaporstore.com/proddetail.php?prod=VT-DXHK

Its designed for their Vapor Tower Vaporizer but they said that they tested it on an EQ and it fits. They guaranteed that it would fit or I can return it. I should get it in on Wednesday so I'll let evryone know how it works. I cant wait.
 
realvapedman,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Thanksk for the heads up, Florida boy! I just bought two!!
 
Stu,

max

Out to lunch
I noticed this was left blank on the auction - Item condition: -- The manufacturer having an eBay only sale for half price makes me wonder if these are brand new. If refurbished, I'm sure there's no sign of use, and tubing, etc. is new, and I certainly wouldn't hesitate to buy one if they were refurbs, but half price? I've never seen any vape manufacturer have a half price sale before.
 
max,

Konrad_Zuse

New Member
steven22 said:
Konrad_Zuse said:
steven22 said:
my v3, i guess is efficient, compared to a blunt or a bong

but, I vape at a much high frequency than I would with combustion because my body can handle it.. so there goes my saved weed.

I need 1-2 bags for myself to reach my level... usually 2 bags. my bowls loaded only halfway in the non rubber section of the cyclone is about .2 grams those .2 grams will give me 3 bags....usually 2 really good ones and 1 sorta weak one.


I tried to mess around with the elbow ones aLOT.... but it seems that one elbow is just not enough to get anymore than 80% of a bag... I notice that after the 80% of the bag filled with vapor, the remaining 20% is just diluting the bag with air because the elbow pack is done by that time.

elbows on whip is amazing.... but i still prefer the convenience of the bag. *I lay on my bed vaping while on the laptop*

--------------


a Glass pipe to me is more efficient than my extreme vape (I barely use the pipe) but whenever I do, I just need a small pinch and it will give a handful of solid hits that send me off.

and I have a magic flight launch box which is more efficient than both and is what I usually use for on the go toking.

---

Can someone show me a more efficient way than the cyclone bowl or elbow pack to make bags on the extreme, Im all ears.
Hey man, I use an Extreme, and I would like to ask what temps you use? I filled up 10 FULL E bags with .45 in my cyclone. I ALSO got to use that bud the next day and still get high, so yeah I don't know what you were using in .2, and what temps you were using, but 3 bags isn't a lot for that amount. I use 200C/392F for my bags. Gives me nice thick bags.
Jesus... 10 bags?... iv never put .5 grams in my e yet, i dont need that much personally... but still i never thought 10 bags was possible

the most iv ever gotten was 5 bags, and the 5th bag being thin.

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I vape at 170 then move to 190 , then 205, then 220 for 4 bags usually. never really went above 220.... felt that it would combust at the high temps the extreme offers (250 260.. etc)

---


When you want to entertain only yourself, (assuming that you dont smoke 10 bags urself) how much bud, and what temps do you use?... and how many bags do you get?
Well I put about 3 elbow packs worth, .15 each, so about .45. I filled 10 bags at 200, I was jus as suprised as you are, I never liked the bags, or thought they worked well, until I did this, and Iw as amazed. I also got high the entire next day off of the same bud, so yeah, it lasted a great deal of time :). I actually did all 10 bags by myself over the course of a few hours, man was I smacked. I usually do 1 elbow pack, .15, at a time, and do a few of those during a day. I go from 170-200, which lasts me about 30mins to 1 hour.
 
Konrad_Zuse,

Konrad_Zuse

New Member
realvapedman said:
Hi!

I have an Extreme Q and I was wondering what is the best way to add moisture to my vapor coming from my Extreme Q? My lungs are feeling a little dried out from hitting direct from my Q. Would the answer be to get a glass water bong and connect my Q to it with an adapter?? I heard they make aftermarket glass whip and elbow adapters for the Extreme. I just want to get some feedback. Websites with Extreme glass accesories would be helpful too.

-Thanks in advanced!
Yes, the way to get a smoother hit would be to get a bong and attach it up. It's kinda harsh by itself, I have no issues though. I would drink a lot of water as well :).
 
Konrad_Zuse,

FloridaBoy

Well-Known Member
I emailed them asking the same questions. Product is only sold as new and is the new Q model. Awesome deal get on it. Maybe business is hurting, that why he's selling them at wholesale prices to move product.

max said:
I noticed this was left blank on the auction - Item condition: -- The manufacturer having an eBay only sale for half price makes me wonder if these are brand new. If refurbished, I'm sure there's no sign of use, and tubing, etc. is new, and I certainly wouldn't hesitate to buy one if they were refurbs, but half price? I've never seen any vape manufacturer have a half price sale before.
 
FloridaBoy,

Konrad_Zuse

New Member
realvapedman said:
I just picked up a Delux Dual Screen Hand Kit Whip from Vaporstore.com

Here's a link... https://www.vaporstore.com/proddetail.php?prod=VT-DXHK

Its designed for their Vapor Tower Vaporizer but they said that they tested it on an EQ and it fits. They guaranteed that it would fit or I can return it. I should get it in on Wednesday so I'll let evryone know how it works. I cant wait.
A user Hereatlast uses it and he loves it a lot. I haven't used it, but it seems great.
 
Konrad_Zuse,

steven22

Well-Known Member
lol ... it sucks that I bought the v3 a few months ago at $230... and real soon the Q comes out, and now today its $150

oh well... i still love my v3 and dont regret it... just one of those hurt my manhood feelings of not getting best deal possible.
 
steven22,
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