The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[steven22]

my v3, i guess is efficient, compared to a blunt or a bong

but, I vape at a much high frequency than I would with combustion because my body can handle it.. so there goes my saved weed.

I need 1-2 bags for myself to reach my level... usually 2 bags. my bowls loaded only halfway in the non rubber section of the cyclone is about .2 grams those .2 grams will give me 3 bags....usually 2 really good ones and 1 sorta weak one.


I tried to mess around with the elbow ones aLOT.... but it seems that one elbow is just not enough to get anymore than 80% of a bag... I notice that after the 80% of the bag filled with vapor, the remaining 20% is just diluting the bag with air because the elbow pack is done by that time.

elbows on whip is amazing.... but i still prefer the convenience of the bag. *I lay on my bed vaping while on the laptop*

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a Glass pipe to me is more efficient than my extreme vape (I barely use the pipe) but whenever I do, I just need a small pinch and it will give a handful of solid hits that send me off.

and I have a magic flight launch box which is more efficient than both and is what I usually use for on the go toking.

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Can someone show me a more efficient way than the cyclone bowl or elbow pack to make bags on the extreme, Im all ears.

 

[the electrician]

Agreed, but Mr. Smoke No More said it well, and I just couldn't take this dolt's "holier than thou" attitude anymore that the stock Q isn't as good as his mods. Maybe he should market them to Arizer, but i'm pretty sure they would just laugh at him.

For those looking to buy a Q, please don't worry about all this efficiency hype. Anyone who tells you they are vaping .025g is a fool. Unless that was ofcourse a typo.

Vape on...elbow or bowl.

but obviously i dont have a fucking clue what im talking about do i?

significantly less than the bowl normally uses, and less still than the elbow. but i shouldve known better than to try and help

maybe you can actually do something for a change and tell me when i was acting "holier than thou"? maybe you can explain why you think im so stupid? maybe you can explain why i would get laughed at for coming up with a new idea? maybe you can show me what proof you have that im wrong? i doubt it though

 

[steven22]

Agreed, but Mr. Smoke No More said it well, and I just couldn't take this dolt's "holier than thou" attitude anymore that the stock Q isn't as good as his mods. Maybe he should market them to Arizer, but i'm pretty sure they would just laugh at him.

For those looking to buy a Q, please don't worry about all this efficiency hype. Anyone who tells you they are vaping .025g is a fool. Unless that was ofcourse a typo.

Vape on...elbow or bowl.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4895/comparisona.jpg
but obviously i dont have a fucking clue what im talking about do i?

significantly less than the bowl normally uses, and less still than the elbow. but i shouldve known better than to try and help

maybe you can actually do something for a change and tell me when i was acting "holier than thou"? maybe you can explain why you think im so stupid? maybe you can explain why i would get laughed at for coming up with a new idea? maybe you can show me what proof you have that im wrong? i doubt it though

would your method fill up a bag?.. if so, how many bags?

 

[the electrician]

would your method fill up a bag?.. if so, how many bags?

i dont really have the wherewithal to test, but it should. not sure if it would do the job well or not though

 

[vape4life]

Did you even read Smoke No More's post? So what, so what if you use less than an elbow?? What's your point? Most people wouldn't even feel a tickle, no matter what bowl is used! Oh right, less air in the path = thicker vapour lol

Regardless, you do whatever you want... and whatever you think is efficient. Remember, it's not a lie if you believe it.

Agreed, but Mr. Smoke No More said it well, and I just couldn't take this dolt's "holier than thou" attitude anymore that the stock Q isn't as good as his mods. Maybe he should market them to Arizer, but i'm pretty sure they would just laugh at him.

For those looking to buy a Q, please don't worry about all this efficiency hype. Anyone who tells you they are vaping .025g is a fool. Unless that was ofcourse a typo.

Vape on...elbow or bowl.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4895/comparisona.jpg
but obviously i dont have a fucking clue what im talking about do i?

significantly less than the bowl normally uses, and less still than the elbow. but i shouldve known better than to try and help

maybe you can actually do something for a change and tell me when i was acting "holier than thou"? maybe you can explain why you think im so stupid? maybe you can explain why i would get laughed at for coming up with a new idea? maybe you can show me what proof you have that im wrong? i doubt it though

 

[vape4life]

If you turn the temp up you'll get a VERY nice bag from an elbow pack. Amp up the temp... all the way to max if you like. Slow your fan speed down if you are using setting 3.

Also you make a very valid point regarding frequency. Vaping is just soooo easy, that's it's very easy to fly through herb.

my v3, i guess is efficient, compared to a blunt or a bong

but, I vape at a much high frequency than I would with combustion because my body can handle it.. so there goes my saved weed.

I need 1-2 bags for myself to reach my level... usually 2 bags. my bowls loaded only halfway in the non rubber section of the cyclone is about .2 grams those .2 grams will give me 3 bags....usually 2 really good ones and 1 sorta weak one.


I tried to mess around with the elbow ones aLOT.... but it seems that one elbow is just not enough to get anymore than 80% of a bag... I notice that after the 80% of the bag filled with vapor, the remaining 20% is just diluting the bag with air because the elbow pack is done by that time.

elbows on whip is amazing.... but i still prefer the convenience of the bag. *I lay on my bed vaping while on the laptop*

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a Glass pipe to me is more efficient than my extreme vape (I barely use the pipe) but whenever I do, I just need a small pinch and it will give a handful of solid hits that send me off.

and I have a magic flight launch box which is more efficient than both and is what I usually use for on the go toking.

---

Can someone show me a more efficient way than the cyclone bowl or elbow pack to make bags on the extreme, Im all ears.

 

[the electrician]

Did you even read Smoke No More's post? So what, so what if you use less than an elbow?? What's your point? Most people wouldn't even feel a tickle, no matter what bowl is used! Oh right, less air in the path = thicker vapour lol

i want to get high more often and use less weed, how is that so hard to understand?

 

[saeton]

just made a set up similar to what electrician was talking about, loving it so far. really impressive the difference.

to answer someone else's question, you can make balloon/bags this way too... and it worrrrrrrks.

question for extreme q users: what temps do you use for sativas to get a good head high or a feelin' good 'appreciative of everything' high?

 

[Konrad_Zuse]

Agreed, but Mr. Smoke No More said it well, and I just couldn't take this dolt's "holier than thou" attitude anymore that the stock Q isn't as good as his mods. Maybe he should market them to Arizer, but i'm pretty sure they would just laugh at him.

For those looking to buy a Q, please don't worry about all this efficiency hype. Anyone who tells you they are vaping .025g is a fool. Unless that was ofcourse a typo.

Vape on...elbow or bowl.

I didn't read this spam fest you and Electrician are having, but let me tell you something. When I started packing the elbow, I would fill it a quarter the way full, which is like .05. I now pack .15 per session and I get high off of 2 hits from that, even with middle quality bud. I have the Extreme, NOT the Q, so it could be different, but this is what I do every day.


Mod note: It's not advisable to comment on misbehavior by other members. It takes your post off topic as well. And you seem to be mixing up 'spamming' and 'flaming'.

To the mod, so everyone else in this topic can comment, spam, or flame but when I make a useful post I'm at fault? I guess I'm not allowed to add input hmm? Lmfao.

Mod note #2: Your spam fest comment was neither useful nor accurate. There was no purpose to it other than to stir things up again or scold the participants. Neither reason is a good one. Yes everyone can comment, as long as it's on topic. There is no spam here. The flamers are taking a vacation from the forum. And responding to a mod note in the threads isn't allowed. "Public discussions of staff decisions are not permitted on the site. If you have any concerns or queries relating to a staff decision please take it up in private with a staff member."

 

[Konrad_Zuse]

my v3, i guess is efficient, compared to a blunt or a bong

but, I vape at a much high frequency than I would with combustion because my body can handle it.. so there goes my saved weed.

I need 1-2 bags for myself to reach my level... usually 2 bags. my bowls loaded only halfway in the non rubber section of the cyclone is about .2 grams those .2 grams will give me 3 bags....usually 2 really good ones and 1 sorta weak one.


I tried to mess around with the elbow ones aLOT.... but it seems that one elbow is just not enough to get anymore than 80% of a bag... I notice that after the 80% of the bag filled with vapor, the remaining 20% is just diluting the bag with air because the elbow pack is done by that time.

elbows on whip is amazing.... but i still prefer the convenience of the bag. *I lay on my bed vaping while on the laptop*

--------------


a Glass pipe to me is more efficient than my extreme vape (I barely use the pipe) but whenever I do, I just need a small pinch and it will give a handful of solid hits that send me off.

and I have a magic flight launch box which is more efficient than both and is what I usually use for on the go toking.

---

Can someone show me a more efficient way than the cyclone bowl or elbow pack to make bags on the extreme, Im all ears.

Hey man, I use an Extreme, and I would like to ask what temps you use? I filled up 10 FULL E bags with .45 in my cyclone. I ALSO got to use that bud the next day and still get high, so yeah I don't know what you were using in .2, and what temps you were using, but 3 bags isn't a lot for that amount. I use 200C/392F for my bags. Gives me nice thick bags.

 

[vape4life]

Because that is contingent on tolerance. Vape less often = get higher off of less.

Did you even read Smoke No More's post? So what, so what if you use less than an elbow?? What's your point? Most people wouldn't even feel a tickle, no matter what bowl is used! Oh right, less air in the path = thicker vapour lol

i want to get high more often and use less weed, how is that so hard to understand?

 

[Konrad_Zuse]

Because that is contingent on tolerance. Vape less often = get higher off of less.

Did you even read Smoke No More's post? So what, so what if you use less than an elbow?? What's your point? Most people wouldn't even feel a tickle, no matter what bowl is used! Oh right, less air in the path = thicker vapour lol

i want to get high more often and use less weed, how is that so hard to understand?

I can vape all day, every day, and still keep my tolerance extremely low.

 

[vape4life]

So take a week off, and then hit it and report back

Because that is contingent on tolerance. Vape less often = get higher off of less.

i want to get high more often and use less weed, how is that so hard to understand?

I can vape all day, every day, and still keep my tolerance extremely low.

 

[DeepFried]

I vape at 190C on the Q (175 for E v3), and if i wanted thicker hits i could just turn it up, but i dont want to bc thats too hot, as would be putting the herb right on the element (aka male joint sticking out of the E).

Fair enough, you seem to push very low temp vaping all the time cause it's how you like it..

but then you post this...

This was a pretty neet experiment by the cats ovaer at magicflight, thought i would post it here, although i think he uses an older model, not sure.

In terms of real temperatures, the Extreme *does* implement real vaporization -- it just does so at a generally overall lower temperature than is indicated on the display -- usually at least 50 deg C cooler, and perhaps sometimes as much as 100 deg C cooler, depending on timing, ambient conditions and settings.

So basically what are you saying?, that you actually are vaping as low as 75C on the E?

Does no body here understand what the electrician is trying to show you, especially vape4life.





post 98

Now with the new Q, I start somewhere at about 215C and go up to about 235C, but STILL my herbs have tonnes of green in them.

With the Q, I can't get to that point even with the temp cranked up. There is always some green mixed with light brown and I feel like i'm wasting.

So far i'm dissappointed, but will allow a bit more time to hear of others experiences before I sell this thing and revert back to the old Extreme.

Sounds like the stock Q isn't working for you as well as you now claim it does, think..

post 106

I've had the V-tower classic, Extreme, and now Extreme-Q and have been vaping for 3 years now exclusively. I'm also using quality Grade A herbs.

You are such a pro, we should all kiss the ground you walk on since you are so intelligent and such an experienced vapornaut, yet 3 years of using Extremes and you have never tried an elbow pack WTF?

post 109

I haven't tried filling the elbow (but I will).

post 133

Hmmm, you would think Arizer would come up with a special type of adapter piece or bowl that makes it even easier to do the elbow packing.

post 661

The Q kicks absolute ass just the way it was designed. Steve at Arizer KNOWS what he's doing...believe me, I know him personally.

You contradict yourself all over the place throughout this entire thread and then you rag on someone who comes here to share their ideas and yet have nothing but complete bullshit to share yourself!

 

[Persona Non Grata]

lets agree to disagree. all this shit has got to be very annoying/confusing for anyone reading this thread.

to me the elbow pack method is perfect. very easy to pack/dump, no preheating, thick tasty hits at low temps, <0.1 gram at a time. can stir it or raise the temps to squeeze everything from it if your concerned with that. plus you can vape hash in it.

personally I see no need to vape less than that at a time. even a half elbow pack doesnt deliver the same amount of flavour as a full pack. and to me that taste is probably the best thing about vaping. you people feel free do whatever you want

there is no best method

 

[vtac]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and preferences. Name calling, however, is not allowed as explained in detail in the forum rules.

If you can't make your point without insulting another member, don't post. If you do, you'll be breaking the rules and will be given an infraction.

 

[Stu]

I have a problem with my whip. I can't seem to get the glass mouthpiece that came installed out of the tubing.

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I've tried and tried, but it won't twist or pull out. It's like it's fucking welded in there. Can anyone help?

Thanks!

 

[DevoTheStrange]

ive always removed my mouth pieces by just cutting them out with a sharp blade.
Usually when I am changing out the tubing

 

[Persona Non Grata]

hot water will soften tubing. comes out pretty easy. hair dryer probably work also

 

[w8n4four20]

Hello! I am new here but I just wanted to add my two cents. I love the Extreme Q! We've tried a few different vaporizers and decided to give this one a try. WE LOVE IT!

 

[hereatlast]

Hey Stu cutting or warm water is probably the best bet, gonna be tough without doing either of those.

Quick note, it seemed to me that the bond between the stock tubing and the elbow was stronger than the elbow's glass itself, I've tried pulling them apart and the elbow promptly broke. Like Devo I've taken a razor to it every time since then.

 

[Stu]

Hey Stu cutting or warm water is probably the best bet, gonna be tough without doing either of those.

Quick note, it seemed to me that the bond between the stock tubing and the elbow was stronger than the elbow's glass itself, I've tried pulling them apart and the elbow promptly broke. Like Devo I've taken a razor to it every time since then.

Do you use the same tubing after you cut it? Or do you only cut it when you replace the entire tube? Also, how long do you go before having to replace the tubing and where do you get it from? Sorry for the newbie questions, but I've only had my Q for about 10 days.

 

[StickyShisha2]

i was using a friends Extreme-Q this weekend, and damn, i like it more than my Volcano.

 

[hereatlast]

Stu, no problem this is the place to ask those questions


What I've done to replace or clean the tubing is this: I've cut into where it connects just enough to get it off resulting in a slightly shorter whip and put it back on the glass. I've also cut the tubing to the point that its too short and scraped it and trashed it.



Regarding the Extreme's tubing, this is completely my I think the stock tubing should be upgraded, its stiff and just not of the highest quality IMO, it won't (shouldn't) hurt you as I'm sure its completely safe. What I've noticed though is that the stock tubing picks up a lot more particulates that come through, ultimately this means a dirtier whip faster IME. Medical grade silicone may be considered overkill for some but I like knowing how safe it is (I personally use Tygon 3350) and its much more flexible.
There's a dedicated tubing thread that shouldn't be too hard to find with the search button, (its in General Vaporization) I don't want to post the wrong specs for the E's tubing here. Also, USPlastics.com and 7th Floor Vapes seem to be the go-to places for this higher quality tubing.

 

[Stu]

Stu, no problem this is the place to ask those questions


What I've done to replace or clean the tubing is this: I've cut into where it connects just enough to get it off resulting in a slightly shorter whip and put it back on the glass. I've also cut the tubing to the point that its too short and scraped it and trashed it.



Regarding the Extreme's tubing, this is completely my I think the stock tubing should be upgraded, its stiff and just not of the highest quality IMO, it won't (shouldn't) hurt you as I'm sure its completely safe. What I've noticed though is that the stock tubing picks up a lot more particulates that come through, ultimately this means a dirtier whip faster IME. Medical grade silicone may be considered overkill for some but I like knowing how safe it is (I personally use Tygon 3350) and its much more flexible.
There's a dedicated tubing thread that shouldn't be too hard to find with the search button, (its in General Vaporization) I don't want to post the wrong specs for the E's tubing here. Also, USPlastics.com and 7th Floor Vapes seem to be the go-to places for this higher quality tubing.

Thanks, Hereatlast. I found the thread here http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=279 and will bookmark it for future reference when I need to buy more tubing.