The 2016 Presidential Candidates Thread
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BD9
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Oh, I agree. I'm in Indiana and very familiar with this guy. I have been very vocal, and physical ( physical by protesting at state house, marching. Not physically violent...
) to show I'm against his policies.He also wants to control women's reproductive rights, is bigoted under the guise of religious freedoms and so many more...I could go on all day.
But, the evangelicals and far right are going to come out in droves to vote for Pence this should it happen he's somehow the presidential candidate. That's why trump picked him to run as vice president. To get in touch that specific voter base.
That's how he got elected here.
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His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
I keep getting kaine and pence mixed up.
They both exude such charisma with their monosyllabic names
Has anybody ever seen them side by side?
I can tell them apart easily. One of them was frightened so badly at the possibility of their running mate winning that it turned his hair completely white.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Pence is the one who looks like Race Bannon on Jonny Quest...
I guess there IS a parallel there. Race... er I mean Pence was hired to protect the Donald. He is gonna need all of Race's skills, I think...
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BD9
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I wondered about this, and found a video. I'm not sure what to make of it though. I watched the video with my mouth hanging open..............
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_7691xp8y
Not sure if the video will work so here's the link
CuckFumbustion
Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
The latest from Trump:
The Clinton Foundation is funding Isis
Clinton is the Devil.
The General Election will be rigged (and this is from me.........."only if he loses")
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...evil-warns-rigged-race-makes-isis-charge.html
Edit: To many, it seems that Trump is setting himself up to bail from the debates by saying that the debate dates are rigged against him being that they conflict with NFL games
And now, to many, it seems that he is setting himself up to also bail on the general election by stating that they are rigged against him and that he won't participate in a sham.
So now I got this picture in my head of Trump dropping out of the general and Pence doing one of these..........with a bubble above his head saying, "Fuck !!! Now what in the fuck am I supposed to do??" lol...
Your are more than probably right that he is setting himself up to not debate Hillary. Whether it is deliberate effort or not is another question. He already flaked out on some RNC debates. We should start asking him RIGHT NOW what he plans to say at the debates and keep the pressure on him.
I think his ego is big enough to quit the debates or race and he will come up with his own self centered justification for doing so. He has flaked out on business deals in the same manner. I would not put it past him at all.
He'd leave a hot mess for the RNC to clean up and claim it was 'rigged'. He likes pointing that out several times to Bernie supporters. As if he actually had a chance to get their vote. He couldn't be any more repellent to them, I'm sure.
Has any Bern supporters sounded back to Trump about this?
The President has reaffirmed his position of Drump being unfit for office. Referring to Trump as being the 'standard bearer' for the party. Pence is already mopping up for Trumps attacks on the Khan family.
Is the Republican Party crumbling before our eyes?
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
TRYING to mop up, more like it. There will be no "cleanup on aisle 9..."
lwien
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CuckFumbustion
Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
Ok now I am worried. There are some Bern supporters that would choose Drump over Hillary. Even though Bernie has endorsed Hillary twice. 
Trump has next to nothing to offer Bernie supporters, even if he was on the level.
Trump has next to nothing to offer Bernie supporters, even if he was on the level.
lwien
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What's happening to the GOP has been percolating for awhile now, ever since the religious right got control of the party. It now seems to be coming to a head and maybe this is EXACTLY what needs to happen so that they can rebuild the party from scratch and make it (and believe me, it's hard to even get this word out) "respectable" again.
In that context, Trump may be a blessing in disguise, eh?
In that context, Trump may be a blessing in disguise, eh?
gangababa
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The description of the medal on the page, in the spin to say "you too were properly wounded and deserve this even if no one else noticed previously", says two things that seem at odds in my reading,
"The Purple Heart Medal...differs from other military decorations in that a "recommendation" from a superior is not required..."
Then a few sentences later, "...commanders must take into account the extent of enemy involvement in the wound."
grokit
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The only way back to "respectability" would be to go back to being "conservative", and for that to happen they would have to drop the whole "neo" thing. Like the warhawkish "neolibs" these days, the "neocons" are quite "radical", which is the polar opposite of conservative. And to become conservative again they would have to drop the whole (super-expensive) empire/exceptionalism thing. This just isn't gonna to happen no way no how; where would the great white warriors go. Nope, just a gradual decline into oblivion imo.
edit: A similar type of fracture is happening with the democrats; the times they are indeed a changin'.
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CuckFumbustion
Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
I couldn't agree with what all needs to be turned around to make the RNC respectable again. I think however that these 'white warriors' that you describe are about to face some actual heat this time around. Would you consider Trump the 'standard bearer' for the 'white warrior' clan? He has at least earned that. 
This phenom can be traced all the way back as far as Reagan. (or perhaps further
) Reagan courted the religious right while people like Barry Goldwater was losing their temper over this. Mr Conservative had a lot of negative things to say about this courtship back in the day. That is where the first division between the philosophical and evangelicals occurred.
grokit
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I've never been a member, but would say that the white warriors have decided he is. For now. My guess is they will try another rombot next time, lose by even more and then they will go full hitler/david duke...
Silat
When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind.
To be fair to ll Doooshy he has been wounded by all those who have attacked him for his lies.
/s
Well you have been wounded in this thread
This phenom can be traced all the way back as far as Reagan. (or perhaps further
We need a healthy and sane GOP for this country to succeed.
For the foreseeable future that is not going to happen.
Drumpf is just the tip of the spear that represents what the reich has become since Reagan started the downward slide.
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CuckFumbustion
Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
Wasn't implying that you were.I've never been a member, but would say that the white warriors have decided he is. For now. My guess is they will try another rombot next time, lose by even more and then they will go full hitler/david duke...
Having the UFC President open the RNC convention seemed to cater to that type of crowd. That set the tone for me alone.
grokit
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Now it's my turn toWasn't implying that you were.
since I like to watch the bigger prizefights. As long as I can find a way past the paywall
I'm more of a joe rogan than a dana white fan though
CuckFumbustion
Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
It took me 20 minutes to figure out that the comedian/libertarian leaning Joe Rogan is indeed the same person as Joe Rogan - UFC color commentator.I'm more of a joe rogan than a dana white fan though
More specifically, The type of obstructionism where they cut off there own nose to spite their own face.
I am not in favor of making more laws. I don't think it is the governments job is to necessarily create new laws. However several opportunities where both sides could have forgot there political presence for once and write/repeal laws that would have improved things for the US. Instead of waiting for things to tank so they can blame whoever is President.
As if he actually wrote the laws.
Bdubbdiblets
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Trump is threatening to not pay a hotel he gave a speech at because of the airconditioning. This after he blasted the local fire Marshall for adhering to capacity limits at another one of trumps speeches...supposedly his companies have a history of not paying its contracts in full or at all due to substandard work...maybe I should try this at subway next time I get a sandwich? Literal craziness...
firefighters and a hotel workers...are these not the working class Americans that his entire campaign is claiming to support...
Yeesh I hope those people start to see the Don man for the Con man he really is..
firefighters and a hotel workers...are these not the working class Americans that his entire campaign is claiming to support...
Yeesh I hope those people start to see the Don man for the Con man he really is..
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I hope someone interviews them on the news. This is very typical Trump behavior, and shining a spotlight on it can only help...
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Uh oh! Chris Christie is standing up to Ttump. Saying Trump is wrong for critizing the Khan family.
Eating KFC with a fork and knife is like eating a candy bar with chopsticks," wrote one commenter.
Maybe Christie wasn't invited to lunch . I've noticed Trump hasn't been so cozy with Christie here lately. His feelings might be hurt that he wasn't chosen as VP.
Eating KFC with a fork and knife is like eating a candy bar with chopsticks," wrote one commenter.
Maybe Christie wasn't invited to lunch . I've noticed Trump hasn't been so cozy with Christie here lately. His feelings might be hurt that he wasn't chosen as VP.
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lwien
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And Christie's primary aid is voting for Hillary:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/02/politics/maria-comella-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html
And so is Jeb Bush's advisor:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/01/politics/sally-bradshaw-jeb-bush-donald-trump-florida/
And the first House member to cross party lines (more to follow, I'm sure)
http://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/...hanna_says_hell_vote_for_hillary_clinton.html
This is just the beginning.
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grokit
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I would agree; while the ideology may go as far back as nixon, reagan was the one who created the whole show-biz personality into political racehorse paradigm. Along with the brand-new immoral minority, he started the wolf-whistle grab for dixie-state democrats. Now many more are finally realizing what many of us already knew, that the grand old party created a monster it can no longer contain. Drumpf is the logical conclusion of the 'bankrupt' theories of reaganomics and the 'idiocracy' of reality television. Also perhaps of the gop itself, as it devolves into a fully nonsensical minority party that is hypocritically based on throwing teabags into a harbor to defeat their oppressors. Now for the weather, and a new laundry detergent.This phenom can be traced all the way back as far as Reagan. (or perhaps further