Omicron Vaporizer for oils

I just ordered a 14500 to try it. I dont use my mini tube. I could see how people really like it but the battery life was not for me

Here you go OF.... This isn't where I got mine, but it does the same thing
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Joye_eGo_C_Upgrade_Passthrough_650mAh_p/ego-c-upt.htm

The more OF ( or should I call you Nobody?) talks about these 14500s the more I am interested. I didn't realize they outperformed the batts in the V1, that is a big wow since the V1 can make me cough in 10sec or less with a 1.5ohm cart. I like the option of using the 14650 or the 14500 ( at least the option when I order them, OF would you please post the link from where you order them again), when I first medicate I grab the V1 and after that I use the V2.5 or HVD to keep things going for the day using Bob's preheat method.

Bob another big thanks for the preheat method, as an old head it reminds me of smoking a joint with this method, toke pause, toke pause, repeat until lungs are full, old habits die hard.

Thanks. I've ordered the similar model without the USB port (got one of those I don't use....) in favor of the power meter (which I find more interesting) to see what this VV is all about.

It's just a personal call, it's not a real pass through (it's really a parallel charger like cell phones, it needs a good battery to work) and it adds length I'd rather be without. I'm OK with charging the old fashioned way if I can't just swap out the battery (first choice).

I'll plan on posting my measurements here in a week or so when it gets here.

Thanks again.

OF

There is also the 900mAh battery that allows you to twist the bottom of the batt for variable voltage.
http://www.vaporgalaxy.com/Genuine-Joye-eGo-C-Twist-1000-MaH-Battery-Black-EGOTWIST1000MAHBLK.htm

I've used those for an ecig with a 1.5 ohm cart they are short lived. Atleast with eliquids. The vari volt is misleading. You either get 3.2 regulated or battery voltage as it drops and does it ever drop quick

Yeah the Twist caught my eye because it can boost the voltage up to 4.8v but I'm not sure what the max current is so it's still a bit of a gamble...

It's a 2.5 amp limit but all egos die quick with a high drain. The MOSFET switch can't handle heat. And these carts heat more than eliquids.

Same here, I note stuff like:
"Due to the nature of low resistance atomizers, and cartomizers please use caution going about 4.2v with items 2ohm and lower to avoid the risk of damage to the atomizer, cartomizer, or battery."

Kinda makes me think it's OK for light duty use, but out for 1.5 Ohmers? I've decided to check out the other one, this one's available for a brave soul with a little time and a meter......

Given the quote above, that's no doubt about right!

OF

These Ego-C's, non-Twist, are exactly the new Joyetech controller I mentioned a week+ ago.

If you're going to try one out, get the 18650 Joyetech eGo-T tube mod for $20-25 and put in an AW 1600 or 2000 mAh - makes a good bat for a DART (though the controller DOES sometime overheat when chain-hitting the DART). The electronics are the same, but if you are going to test something, how about a $20 tube with a $10 battery instead of a lower powered built-in stick.

The Twist is something else entirely. A boost-buck from 3.2 to 4.8v with very low dropout (Joyetech has/had curves online for various resistance loads and voltage settings), but no USB Twist version exists yet AFAIK,

-NDA

Even though there's no question mark there, I think it's a question? If so, the answer is no, thanks, it has none of the features I'm interested in (Small size, VV, and the battery meter). I have a similar unit (minus the lock function which I don't use anyway) that I don't use much so I've no interest there, either.

If you think this is worth consideration, perhaps you should try it and post your results? I'm sure there'd be interest one way or the other.

Thanks for the suggestion, though.

OF

GR,

I'm sorry, I missed this earlier somehow. I just ran across it looking for something else. Yes I was surprised when V2 didn't do as well as V1 with 1.5 Ohm carts. Then when HVD came out and I tested the mini and long tube (14650) and got the jaw dropping lower power than with that bitty little 250 in the short tube! Turns out the 650s have more capacity but higher internal resistance. They 'sag' a lot more under load.

Put one of these in there then hang onto your hat:
http://www.lighthound.com/AW-IMR-14500-LiMN-Rechargeable-Lithium-Battery_p_3644.html

Expect near half a Volt difference with a charged battery, that edge will drop some but it's ahead of the V1 right into the mud.

You won't catch me defending what Bob does, and that's for sure....

And by the way, it's Mister Nobody to you....

Again, sorry I missed your question.

OF

yea, i got some of those from them myself, work great!
i can defend myself thank you very much! lol, at least for a few more years, age is catching up quick.
lighthound is great and the 14500 won't do ya wrong.
thanks again for the suggestion, OF!

Yer welcome, Bro. I think it's cool that such a simple change can further improve an already pretty keen product. I hope the word gets around. You change batteries a bit more often, but IMO it's well worth it.

As for defending yourself, I'm sure glad you're self sufficient as I'm fighting a loosing battle on that front....

Cheers,

OF

I'm guessing you mean physical heat from the cart, rather than electrical heat from the switch resistance? (sorry, I've limited electrical knowledge) If that's the case it's quite well buffered by the 510-601 connector- I can hardly feel any heat getting to the battery.

I've been running a 2.5ohm cart on one at 4.8v for a few weeks now- maybe 4-5 grams of oil vaped with that cart, and I'm on my second gram with a 1.5 ohm cart (which I'm running at all volts up to about 4.0, top end the most). No problems so far. I report back when it dies. I only just got the 1.5 ohm carts, but reading this I guess now it was a bad idea.

Limited bravery, but I have a coffee break tomorrow (not now- it's 4am) and I recently purchased a meter. I also happened to watch a youtube instructional on how to use said meter, so I might be able to deliver some results.... is there something I could test here? (well there's lot's I could test- anything on this ego c twist that I should test, or that you'd like me to test?)

i've fought enough tho, some looser than others. bend like a reed in the wind.... a reprieve is nice every once in awhile, but now i know who not to try drafting .

the O-Phos & the v1 are simply 2 rebranded chinese batteries. (or probably untested Joyetech clones? ... ) And in my opinion they also could be considered variable voltage batteries because they are unregulated!

I personally dont use my omicron v1 anymore..., the voltage is not stable enough to be able to make a proper use of my 1.5 carts... where the go twist does its job very well.


Now with stable 3.2v I'm able to use my 1.5 carts properly without any risk of overheat. And my battery lasts longer... because of the low voltage.
And I also feel safer because I know this ego battery has been sold ten thousend of times , what means they are tested a way better omicron batteries ever will be, if they are tested at all.

Interesting observations, I don't have an O-Phos, but believe it's a V1 with a built in charger? Yes, they are Chinese made, but I don't think you can call them 'rebranded' unless you can show me the same exact thing with another name on it? Since all similar batteries I can find have a different connector, and the only ones with the same connector are different models I think THC's claim that he orders his parts made in China is honest and accurate. Who's design is he 'knocking off'? Where can I buy the same thing cheaper with another name on it?

I bet he would say he's 'getting them custom made for him'? Same as say a GM wiper motor?

You're welcome to your opinion of what variable voltage is, but that term has been already defined for public use long before you were born. It means one you can vary at will. I'd advise using a more technically correct term. Maybe 'unstable'? Or 'not controlled' or 'not regulated' (only I'm pretty sure V1 is in fact regulated ....), but "variable voltage" is already defined as something else. As to 'proper use' you are again welcome to a personal opinion, but the maker I think gets to tell us how his device is intended to be used and he seems to feel the cart was developed to run on V1s? I bet he considers the V1 proper, and it is his call?

And I wouldn't be too quick to slam the V1 with 1.5s over overheat. Specifically maximum output (fresh charge) is 3.18 Volts in my tests, which I think you agree is less than 3.2 so it should actually be a bit cooler on the V1 at the most? And since 'buck/boost' circuits are typically in the 'low eighties' efficiency wise, 20% of the energy is lost in the regulator, the batteries therefore last a considerably shorter time delivering the same energy to the load. Same as you car MPG goes down pulling a trailer. You might go just as fast, but the tank of gas won't carry you as many miles.

I'm glad you're happy, that is after all the goal. Your logic is, I think, flawed, your 'facts' wrong. I'd hate for some innocent take them otherwise......

Cool, hard to get really useful numbers without a load on it, but it'd be nice to know what the "open circuit voltage" is on the various settings. You can probe right at the connector on the center pin with one probe while holding the other on the outside. Watch out for shorts to the wall, it's supposed to be protected from such abuse (shorted carts), but no sense testing that part out if it fails.....

Thanks.

OF

The maker lives in china...


Once again... I'm not responsible for the lack of informations provided (or not) by Delta9vapes!

At the moment the 601 thread and the cartridges are the only things "developped" by thcscientist and his team.

The v1 & o-phos are chinese e-cig batteries and the v2-2.5 & persei are simple e-cig mods or torch mods with 601 thread. They are just selling different kind of batteries: standard e-cig batteries with 601 thread.

And instead of buying extremely overpriced and untested batteries, where no official specs nor documentation is provided, people should know that they simply can buy a 10$ ego battery with an adapter in order to be able to use omicron cartridges. And with the ego twist at 20$, you will be able to make a better use of your carts and concentrates that the v1 or o-phos ever will. Thats a fact.


Simply keep up to date your documentations and test properly your products before selling them!

I think these guys from Poland sell sold what looks very similar to the v1, and apparently it had a 601 thread too. The Mild X6 on mild.pl They don't have it on the site any more.



edit. If you google 'mild x6' they're still available.

Someone's got a personal vendetta against d9. Or maybe a deep rooted love for cheap chinese batteries with no CS behind them.
34 posts...all backhanded bashes of D9V. I love this ignore button.
Sorry, been busy here, but my hvd end cap came early last week. Works great. Thanks G.

I'll still stand by paying a little but more for the product from Delta 9 just for the customer service that comes with the company.

well said.
this is a 300 page thread, go count how many times ego batts of all styles have been brought up. this is serious old hat. we buy from thc to support his tech. they cost more, but they are also WARRANTIED. i have several ego's and some work, some have burnt out. no one sent me a new one when they broke or burnt out. these guys do. yea they might be made in china (not preferred), but i have had a v1 replaced as well as a v2 and hvd. they might make mistakes along the way, but that's the price of innovation. you can have issues with the cost, or with the carts, but unless you have something new or constructive to add in your criticism you are just beating a dead horse. plenty of knock-off companies in this world. we all know these exist (i am assuming). if ya gotta go cheap, go cheap, but dollars to donuts, you'll pay more in the long run... my two cents. seriously feel like this............

No, the folks who make it live there. "Maker" is a technical term. GM makes cars, the parts come from all over. You knew what I meant, you're just being argumentative for the sake of it....not a good way to have an adult conversation IMO. Please change that or I'll let you talk to yourself?

I'm quite sure all the folks here know there are cheap e-cigs that have been used to power Omicron carts, Lord knows we discuss it here enough, it's just that most of us with open minds have found that it's not a reliable way to go which is why we don't generally recommend it. Hardware failures are a very big deal to most. As is saving money.

How you can state the long term suitability of a brand new product is "a fact" is beyond me. IMO it's not even an objective opinion....it has no experience to back it up. If, after this unit has established a good track record, folks want to decide if it's a good value that's cool. For now it seems at least reasonable to think it'll be no more up to the task than all the other similar products.

Recommend what you want, but be prepared to back it up with more than flames for THC. I'll continue to do the same?

Hey, we all need a mission in life, right? I just hope I figure mine out before it's too late.....

Best wishes.

OF

why do you feel the need to lie?

Millions of people are using joyetech products...

I have several ego batteries from joyetech, and not one of them burnt out.
They all worked when I got them and never had to send one back!

Ok D9 is a small company, but they sell simple e-cigs for extremely high prices, so they could at least test their products and keep up to date their documentations.
(the kind of facts, you guys seem to hate)




And explain me how I will pay more in the long run?
at the moment Im able to use my 1.5 carts at 3.2v and my 2.4 carts at 4v-4.8v.
For 20$ I'm able to increase or decrease the voltage what you aren't able to do for 200$ without changing batteries and carts.


By increasing the voltage I also recovered a few carts and their content that didn't work anymore on my v1. Thats also money...


And if one day I need a battery that will run at 5 amps I will buy a (VV) Mod that can handle more than 5 amps or the Persei if I see that D9 tests their products before selling them!!!

But at the moment I dont need it, because my v1 was bought for stealth vaping.

what's your mission here?


and please keep your personal attacks for youself and stop being childish!!!