kimura
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Excellent news, thank you.
Did they mention whether the new units have glass or Teflon cores?
MiniVAP Vaporizer
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Excellent news, thank you.
Did they mention whether the new units have glass or Teflon cores?
Smknbud
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Two days ago they had no idea of when.
Mine has a UPS ship date of 2/10/15.........should be interesting what I get.
mmafighterthe25
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Item Sku Qty Subtotal
MiniVAP Adapter
Color
Black
MV.ADAPTER_black 1 $66.00
MV Kit Flexicone+ MV.Flexicone+.Kit 1 $27.58
MV O-ring Filters MV.O-ring.Filters 1 $7.99
MV Kit de Iniciación KIT_starterKIT 1 $33.00
MV Adapter for 14mm glass MV.ADAPTER14MM 1 $10.99
Subtotal $145.56
That's what I just bought from minivap.com. Now when tax return comes will buy from vapornation
MiniVAP Adapter
Color
Black
MV.ADAPTER_black 1 $66.00
MV Kit Flexicone+ MV.Flexicone+.Kit 1 $27.58
MV O-ring Filters MV.O-ring.Filters 1 $7.99
MV Kit de Iniciación KIT_starterKIT 1 $33.00
MV Adapter for 14mm glass MV.ADAPTER14MM 1 $10.99
Subtotal $145.56
That's what I just bought from minivap.com. Now when tax return comes will buy from vapornation
Mrmrmrmr
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Custom dry mouthpiece+ @Ratchett 's SonG= pain relief and good nights sleep. Man am I glad I live in this time. To put it bluntly, Technology and innovation are creating some fucking cool things.
Biohacker your VAS should be kicking into full gear by now!!
Lazylathe and I both agree the flavor profile that the MV has is slightly more pronounced than the Herbie.
Biohacker your VAS should be kicking into full gear by now!!
Lazylathe and I both agree the flavor profile that the MV has is slightly more pronounced than the Herbie.
Kommyknocker
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Nectar harvest time hath cometh!
I.b.vaping
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Hi, sorry if I've missed something but what's the new heating technology? Glass core?
I know! I can't wait! However anytime there is a "new" heating technology, there are usually more problems? It's just my general feeling from what i've read so far that the MV isn't very dependable, but then again @lazylathe's new one is going strong for a while now.
Is the MV sensitive to draw for results like the Cloud where you can pull slow or hard and it won't over cook the load? I'm just wondering how similar the MV is to my LSV? Loving my LSV, but it's pretty sensitive to draw speed at moderate temps.
Mrmrmrmr
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I feel like Teflon would be your choice. The new glass core hasn't been tested by many people but I know sticks had one. Its bigger on conduction compared to the Teflon version. Not my style honestly ,I prefer convection.
It does seem like it's not dependable at all right ?
Wrong.
My unit was originally bought in 2013. Got it from someone last year around October and it's been going strong ever since. Hermes and the websites that carry mv's have had some trouble recently yes but that has nothing to do with the design of the MV but faulty parts AFAIK.
As far a draw speed goes I found that the MV loves a pretty fast inhale Which makes sense because of its convection properties.
Not quite the same as the LSV since it's very easy to combust with the saber.
Btw great choice on that. Easily my favorite 7th floor vaporizer.
It does seem like it's not dependable at all right ?
Wrong.
My unit was originally bought in 2013. Got it from someone last year around October and it's been going strong ever since. Hermes and the websites that carry mv's have had some trouble recently yes but that has nothing to do with the design of the MV but faulty parts AFAIK.
As far a draw speed goes I found that the MV loves a pretty fast inhale Which makes sense because of its convection properties.
Not quite the same as the LSV since it's very easy to combust with the saber.
Btw great choice on that. Easily my favorite 7th floor vaporizer.
I love vapes designed to be used steamlessly with water. I have never come even close to combustion with my LSV, nor Nano for that matter. I use the LSV anywhere from 11 to 2 on the dial. Combustion is a non-issue at the temps that I use. Can the MV combust?
With convection, i'm finding that a slower draw creates thick vapour....that's one thing with the LSV, I don't milk much at the temps I'm using but still get serious vapour clouds. It's kinda like my Herbie was.
With convection, i'm finding that a slower draw creates thick vapour....that's one thing with the LSV, I don't milk much at the temps I'm using but still get serious vapour clouds. It's kinda like my Herbie was.
mixchu69
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No combustion. Just the tastiest vapor you can get. I actually start off with a slow draw and increase the speed to the point where it feels like I'm ripping a bong. Then my car is filled with vapor.
Somebody mentioned that technique in this thread and it works amazing. I'm accustomed to portable vapes that need time to reheat the bowl before the next draw. not with the mv.
Somebody mentioned that technique in this thread and it works amazing. I'm accustomed to portable vapes that need time to reheat the bowl before the next draw. not with the mv.
bigmouth
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@kimura: They didn't specify, but Alfredo did mention a handful of users had been testing this new technology, so it could well be the glass core. I'm picking up my replacement from VN this afternoon, so I'll let you know what I get.
@Smknbud: D'OH! Pretty sure they got the new shipment on February 11th. Tbh, though, I'm not sure it's such a bad thing to have one of the older units. Alfredo mentioned they had been testing the new technology. But who knows what kinks are still left to be discovered? As long as VN will honor the warranty (which it sounds like they will) I feel like you have the best of both worlds.
@mmafighterthe25: I'm not 100% sure, but I think the "flexicone tube" is probably the "flexicone plus." The simple flexicone doesn't really have a tube to speak of.
@l.b. vaping: It's unclear if the "new heating technology" refers to a glass core, some updated firmware, or what.
@biohacker: That's precisely my concern. To answer your question, the MiniVap does seem to compensate, but more to ensure the temp stays high enough on long draws. There's zero risk of combustion so far as I can see. Bottom line: you can draw as hard as you want with the MiniVap.
@Smknbud: D'OH! Pretty sure they got the new shipment on February 11th. Tbh, though, I'm not sure it's such a bad thing to have one of the older units. Alfredo mentioned they had been testing the new technology. But who knows what kinks are still left to be discovered? As long as VN will honor the warranty (which it sounds like they will) I feel like you have the best of both worlds.
@mmafighterthe25: I'm not 100% sure, but I think the "flexicone tube" is probably the "flexicone plus." The simple flexicone doesn't really have a tube to speak of.
@l.b. vaping: It's unclear if the "new heating technology" refers to a glass core, some updated firmware, or what.
@biohacker: That's precisely my concern. To answer your question, the MiniVap does seem to compensate, but more to ensure the temp stays high enough on long draws. There's zero risk of combustion so far as I can see. Bottom line: you can draw as hard as you want with the MiniVap.
mmafighterthe25
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Welp let's say I'll get good on baskets flexicone an flexicone+ then for awhile. I wanted power adapter anyway
kimura
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this is exhausting. wouldn't be so bad if this thing wasn't the best goddamn vape. I have other very good options, but they're just not quite as good... I feel like every session could have been just a bit better
if they send me a unit with a glass core I will try to keep an open mind... but I'm really hoping the new shipment came with teflon cores
if they send me a unit with a glass core I will try to keep an open mind... but I'm really hoping the new shipment came with teflon cores
MinnBobber
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Yes, I'll show one method:
I often start on lower temps with flexicone and direct draw -- picture
Then it only takes 3 seconds to remove flexicone and place into bubbler - pic
Then invert the mV with either battery power or AC and enjoy the bubbler experience - pic
Other methods include Ratchett silicone adapter and hydratube can be connected with miniVAP upright OR invert mV into bubbler.
Picture shows a whip inserted into Ratchett's silicone adapter (Song) so that is removed;
kimura
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at least you don't have to wait another week to be disappointed (I would certainly LOVE to be wrong about this)
VN didn't even have the decency to ship my 2nd replacement via USPS 2-day priority like they did the first one. I guess they figure that if I can wait 4-5 months for a working unit, what's an extra week?
EDIT: I am perhaps being a bit melodramatic. But the flavor from my first two (teflon) MV's was absolutely peerless (in my experience). Even the last draw of a spent load tasted good. I will be sad if my new (glass) unit doesn't taste as good, but I suppose I will still be satisfied if the new unit matches the effect delivered by the old ones (when they worked).
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mmafighterthe25
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I know I understand glass would retain more heat. Prob Makin temp higher so maybe taste goes down a little. To be honest I have a lot vapes. I can taste low stuff somewhat not earth shattering
mixchu69
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Everyone has their own taste preferences. I still love my ascent and pax, but others have moved onto new technology and I often hear terms like pax killer. Just because we like Teflon does not mean that you won't like glass. I haven't tried the glass so I cannot tell you. I would love to try a glass heater but I just bought my minivap a few months ago.
vaporlee
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I am the newbie, and I am not experienced MV user like many others, so my words may not valuable at all
, however I would like to share my short experience with the most recent 2015 Green Teflon MV for about a week use before I sent back to Hermes. (probably, more than 17~18 sessions)
In my opinion, even though my unit was Teflon core the taste was already spent with only few draws
, it takes only few seconds to crank up to higher heat setting, (Blue to Green in 3 secs?) and it had same symptom with @stickstones 's glass MV. So I carefully predict the spent taste may not the caused by the material of the chamber either Glass or Teflon, but it may caused by the fault in the firmware or either temperature control.
But who know, I just assume,,
, however I would like to share my short experience with the most recent 2015 Green Teflon MV for about a week use before I sent back to Hermes. (probably, more than 17~18 sessions) In my opinion, even though my unit was Teflon core the taste was already spent with only few draws
, it takes only few seconds to crank up to higher heat setting, (Blue to Green in 3 secs?) and it had same symptom with @stickstones 's glass MV. So I carefully predict the spent taste may not the caused by the material of the chamber either Glass or Teflon, but it may caused by the fault in the firmware or either temperature control.But who know, I just assume,,
mixchu69
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Mine does run hot. However, when I use it with the herbie whip, it is the smoothest and tastiest hit you can get. It actually feels like the vapor went through water. I think the spent taste is the hot heater. I was never able to use it with the plastic mouthpiece or the short flexi. But I am not experienced either, only had it for a few months. I think everything runs hotter with the newer minivaps but I may be wrong.I am the newbie, and I am not experienced MV user like many others, so my words may not valuable at all
In my opinion, even though my unit was Teflon core the taste was already spent with only few draws
But who know, I just assume,,
I guess my point is try it with a longer whip. Or through water.
vaporlee
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I only used with MV whip and didn't even tried standard mp, but the taste was frequently bitter, unpleasant spent taste were there very soon, and the session seems finishes less than 4~5 minutes and no more vapor production even I crank all the way up.
mixchu69
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I bought a three pack of herbie whips for $20 on PlanetVape. I would try that. That $20 May change your experience for a $500 vaporizer.
kimura
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it's been reported (by some FC members and Vapornation themselves) that the glass core adds some conductive heating to the MV as opposed to the teflon core which is/was nearly 100% convection. the two teflon units I had preserved flavor throughout the session, better than any other vape I have tried, and I could leave herb in a hot MV indefinitely and it would not "cook off" at all. If the conductive heating of the glass causes loss of flavor, or worse - cooks the load passively, I will be disappointed. however I will try to stay positive here and keep an open mind
the 4-5 month comment may have been slightly misleading. I received my first MV in September 2014. It failed in less than a month. then my first replacement failed in less than a month. I've been waiting over 2 months for this second replacement. so the whole process has taken 4-5 months at this point