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Green Dragon Recipes and Discussion

Discussion in 'Cooking with Cannabis' started by vtac, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. lesvape

    lesvape Well-Known Member

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    I tried to make green dragon, but I may have done it a bit wrong, despite following the instructions to the T. I used ABV, and some regular de-carbed material(about 2g). I used a mixture of 68% Absinthe and then 50% Vodka for the second round of the mix. After straining the liquid I drank the left over stuff in water. Got me strongly vaked for 5 or so hours. On the other hand drinking the tincture was kind of on the weaker side, and more of a light 3-4 hour affair. Ideas?
  2. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 Mini Glass Hoarder

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    You need higher proof alcohol. 151 proof or higher. No absinthe, no vodka. It must be over proof.
  3. lesvape

    lesvape Well-Known Member

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    I thought I read higher proof vodka would be acceptable, and that 68% alcohol like absinthe would be acceptable as well, but I guess I was wrong? Besides everclear, and certain rums, what other alcohols are 151(or at least 140+)?
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    Deadshort480 Mini Glass Hoarder

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    There's not much to choose from when it comes to ovenproof alcohol. As far as I know there is 151 proof Bicardi, 191 proof Everclear, and 192 proof Spiritus. Then you have moonshine, home made alcohol.

    If you're not using at least 151 you are not extracting nearly as much of the good stuff as you could which makes for weak tincture. Honestly, I wouldn't even use 151 unless I absolutely could not find or acquire Spiritus or Everclear.
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  5. Lo

    Lo Combustion free since '09 Staff Member

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    Here in FL I can only get 151 Everclear but it works well enough. I'd also agree that lower alcohol content stuff doesn't extract the goods as well as higher proof. If I could get the high test - I would ;) Without the higher alcohol I think you're leaving some of the goodies behind.
  6. lesvape

    lesvape Well-Known Member

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    I thought 151 was the highest I could get in California, but I saw a bottle of 90% everclear here, so I guess I will try that out next time.

    Edit: did a google search it's still illegal to sell 192 in California, yet a local store was selling it, and said it was legal if they are selling it, odd. I guess if it's there by then I will try it.
  7. Puffers

    Puffers Well-Known Member

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    If it was 90% then that's 180 proof. I didn't know 192 was the cut off i never see anything higher then 151. Time to check bev mo again lol
  8. lesvape

    lesvape Well-Known Member

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    Highest at bevmo here in SoCal is 151 Bacardi or Everclear 750ml(for the flask size you have to go to one of those mom and pop ones). The place that has the 180 proof(actually may have been 183)has a site & says they deliver all over the state. However, I looked at their site, but it seems like it's not listed there. I wish I remembered the name of it. Maybe next time I go in there I will make a note of it.
  9. doobiedaddy

    doobiedaddy High on life. And weed.

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    Glad to see a Green Dragon thread here. I have made a number of batches - here are some tips and ideas that I don't think have been mentioned yet:
    • If you can't find everclear locally, try using Watkins Lemon Extract - it's made with 190 proof alchohol and the lemon actually gives it not a bad taste. Perfect with Sprite. Cost is very low - only a few bucks for a 2oz bottle - and best of all it can be ordered online and shipped to your house. If you get a different brand, make sure the ingredients say the extract is made with high proof alchohol, not glycerine (which the cheaper brands will be made with).
    • Definitely Decarboxylate your herb first - it's very easy to do in the oven, although it will stink up your house.
    • I find my tinctures work best on an empty stomach, but that eating food after taking tincture will help it to kick in much faster and last longer.
    • Once you have your batch of green dragon, the perfect place to store it is a 2oz Echinacea Tincture bottle - you can get one from a health food store or drug store. It will have a dropper for easy dosing, and no one will ask questions about the strong smelling liquid with bits of green material in it. This works very well for going through airport security :)
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  10. bassplayer

    bassplayer Well-Known Member

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    I read somewhere that you can use a microwave instead of an oven to decarb - anyone here tried that? It said something like 1-2 min per 3g batch, adding a minute if needed till it is dry and crumbly, then on to the extraction steps...
  11. Puffers

    Puffers Well-Known Member

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    I have heard of this method but don't think it works as well as an oven with a more even heat. Where as from what I understand a microwave basically heats from the inside out but the microwave energy isn't very uniform and makes for uneven heating. Along with having less accurate temperature control, IMO I would stick with an oven but to each their own.
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  12. Zee007

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    So glad I came across this thread!!! I will definitely be making some green dragon soon.
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  13. Entheogenesis

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    Lesvape, if you felt it then it probably worked as good as it would have with 190proof. I've never personally been satisfied with GD unless it was boiled down, even with using hash as my starting material.

    Great advice but one thing ive noticed on the bottles is the alcohol slowly deteriorates the rubber 'plunger' on the bottles over time if left in contact. I had a few bottles stored and they fell on their sides in the fridge. I opened one a year later only to find the plunger had started to dissolve. If there's a brand that doesn't do this I need to know! Ive been using regular lids and measuring with a SS 1/8th Teaspoon and its a bit of an inconvenience.
  14. Dangus

    Dangus Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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  15. Steele Concept

    Steele Concept Transformer Tubes Manufacturer

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    Interesting read Dangus... For medicinal users I would think the master Wu method would be the most efficient and one would save a lot of money ethanol for sure. most people I know would prefer a small tincture bottle to dose their beverage of choice rather than a flavored liquor.

    Then again I am not thinking of this thing from a cocktail type of view, I bet with those citrusy tangy strains they could impart an interesting flavor. I'm sure it tastes divine as well as offering the beneficial effects of the medicine.
  16. Dangus

    Dangus Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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    Yeah, I really thought the use of nitrous and the whipped cream whipper was pretty interesting.
  17. Steele Concept

    Steele Concept Transformer Tubes Manufacturer

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    Definitely innovative, of course medicinal plants, N2O and EtOH can all be quite interesting in their own right hehe :smug:
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  18. Puffers

    Puffers Well-Known Member

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    That green bottle just looks so damn cool. I want to make some of this stuff and just put it up on display :D
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  19. Steele Concept

    Steele Concept Transformer Tubes Manufacturer

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    Agreed Puffers, that bottle is gorgeous and well complimented by that seductive emerald glow. Really stands out against the white background. Definetly makes one thirsty, lol.
  20. FreshOregonBud

    FreshOregonBud 60's wild child

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    I had a hard time finding the recipe, stupid me. I didn't realize the first page had a link until I read all the pages and went back. I'm used to links being highlighted in another color, I guess.

    I haven't read all the pages. I could go back and do that and see if anyone has used frosty trim to make this. I'd like to use about 2 oz of good trim and I am wondering how much ever clear I should use.

    thank you!
  21. SSVUN~YAH

    SSVUN~YAH Hey hey hey bhombs away!

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    Look for master woo or something on grass city, I used it and everyone agreed taste was not desirable but it worked really well:tup:
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  22. Steele Concept

    Steele Concept Transformer Tubes Manufacturer

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    Can't go wrong with Master Wu, I am wondering how the MW method works with the magical butter...
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  23. bigtvapes

    bigtvapes Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone used this in an ecig? I'm looking for how that would work.
  24. vaporonly

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    ^^^this will def be an issue esp the higher proof the alcohol.
  25. Zee007

    Zee007 Member

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    Super stoned
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    Used Master Wu's revised tincture
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