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Green Dragon Recipes and Discussion

Discussion in 'Cooking with Cannabis' started by vtac, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. Breathemetal

    Breathemetal Well-Known Member

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    Okay. Im going to make Green Dragon, well Brown Dragon with my ABV soon.

    So I skip the decarb of course, but still do the simmer w/ the abv+alc mix?

    Coffee filter good enough to straight through?

    Also he says use 1/8th of fresh material, so double, triple, quad that with ground up ABV? My abv is pretty dark, so i figure i may as well use more. i have a high tolerance.
     
  2. HSIHP

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    Well I am finally getting round to this today. One question though, about how many drops do you use per cotton ball?

    The pic makes them looks totally saturated but so far I have only but 10 or 15 drops on each. I won't get to try them till later but I was just wondering how much you but on for a good reference.
     
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  3. Snappo

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    10-15 drops on each should be plenty.
     
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  4. pnutz

    pnutz Puff master

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    Hey everybody! I'm sure this has been answered but I can't seem to find my exact answer. I want to do a tincture. First off I'm using ABV so I'm sorry if I've misplaced my question in the wrong thread. Second I also do not want to use heat in my method. And last of all I only have access to everclear 151 p. My question is I've heard of some folks soaking thier abv in the alcohol for maybe a month, and then some say to do a quick wash like ISO. I'm curious to those who have maybe tried both and which method has the higher potency. I have prob a half O of abv and don't wanna screw it up. Thanks for any advice. FC Rocks!!
     
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  5. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 We're here to fuck shit up.

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    If you are trying to make a tincture that you are going to ingest then I would think ISO is something you want to stay away from. 151 should be able to extract pretty well. I've only made a tincture once and I used fresh material, Everclear, and heat. Wish I had more to offer.
     
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  6. pnutz

    pnutz Puff master

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    So do you think a quick wash would work better or soaking for a couple weeks?
     
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  7. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    Soaking for a couple weeks is useless. All the goodies are extracted in minutes. Having said that though, I soak mine in alcohol in the freezer for 24 hours then reduce it. It's not gonna get any stronger by aging it for weeks.


    I'm actually playing with the idea of doing a bho extraction and then converting that to Green Dragon. Just have to figure a way to get my dosage right.
     
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  8. pnutz

    pnutz Puff master

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    Thanks for the feedback! If you can't tell I'm kinda a noob at this. Gonna give it a go later this week.
     
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  9. Steele Concept

    Steele Concept Transformer Tubes Manufacturer

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    Hey guys,

    This thread has been a FC favorite of mine for a while now and I've been making tinctures for several years to help out with my Ulcerative Colitis. I'm a MMJ patient and I hope I can clear up any confusion or questions about making these. I just made a blog post with a step by step picture tutorial available over at a new blog I'm starting up:

    www.GreenDiet.com

    I called it: The Ultimate Medical Cannabis Tincture Pictorial - Bringing Tincture Back. Let me know if there any questions or suggestions. I hope this helps to clear the process up a bit, as I have been through the process quite a few times myself :) I should be getting a Magical Butter 2 unit this week and would like to document that process as well to help all the patients out there.
     
  10. Steele Concept

    Steele Concept Transformer Tubes Manufacturer

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    Hi guys, wanted to let you know I did a bulk version of this recipe with the Magical Butter MB2. I already posted in that thread Automatic butter maker???

    Could be helpful for those wishing to do this in bulk, 1 oz medicine gave me ~500 doses worth. (For the non-tolerant person @ 8mg THC/dose)
     
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  11. Snappo

    Snappo Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!" Accessory Maker

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    Just wanted to let anyone here know that I have found the @Steele Concept Blog web site to be extremely informative and helpful. Go here and enjoy: www.GreenDiet.com
    It'll be well worth your time!
     
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  12. Steele Concept

    Steele Concept Transformer Tubes Manufacturer

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    Thanks snappo, it is my goal to help out other folks in need. Around a year and a half ago I was hospitalized when my disease was very active and I caught C. Diff. Kind of changed my perspective on a lot of things when I could have died from dehydration/blood loss if I had waited a week longer to go to the hospital.

    I'm also in the process of writing an eBook on holistic wellness coupled with MMJ and paleo diet concepts. If folks are interested, if you enter your email on the blog you can download the diet chapter for free :). This is stuff that has helped me out immensely and mmj is a part of my wellness plan. Tinctures are great for the patient due to the pain relieving and "body-down" effects. For a sufferer of IBD, any spasm relief and sedation is very welcome at night.

    Keep on riding that dragon combustion fuckers!
     
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  13. Snappo

    Snappo Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!" Accessory Maker

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    I've been making my GD for a while now with great success. I have since refined my method to include the following for even greater potency/extraction using the same ingredients & measurements (my experience only, others may vary). The difference in method veers off into the following: Coffee grind 1/8th and freeze for a few weeks, shaking jar every day (this, i think helps to isolate the trichome resins and loosen them for better alcohol extraction); I also freeze my 190 Everclear for the same period of time (not that time makes a freezing difference - once it reaches temp, it's there); then, I combine the two and shake very vigorously for about a minute and place back in freezer. Keep mixture in freezer for two more weeks and shake vigorously 2x daily. Then, after two weeks place in fridge for another week. I have noticed that the cloudy white layer that forms in the solution (between herb at bottom & EC at top) using this method is denser and in greater amount than in standard method. Then, I proceed with the standard GD procedures and bottle. Tastes great to me (though I'm not particular about the taste like a lot of folks are), and it is potent as all get out!!! 1ml. on a light stomach is really all I need - potent for a full 8-10 hrs. 2 ml. (1 ml. more, 90 minutes after the first 1 ml. kicks in with a lasting punch that is really too much for me, and goes full throttle for a full 24 hours - I wake up still reeling)! Herb used is top notch Sour Diesel. So that's it, my experience with two methods. Don't really know why the freeze methods works SO well, but for me it really does!
     
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  14. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    @Steele Concept - Checked out your blog. Good stuff. I thought you were older for some reason. :)
     
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  15. Snappo

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    Yes! Seems very knowledgeable! :tup:
     
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  16. Steele Concept

    Steele Concept Transformer Tubes Manufacturer

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    Thanks deadhead, I get that a lot. Maybe it has something to do with going to grad school with older working professionals (instead of kids my age) and working with older people? I started the Steele Concept Water Pipes around my 25th birthday which I guess is kind of young to start a physical goods biz. Also, I have mentioned having Ulcerative Colitis and usually folks thinks GI issues = older folks.

    So yeah, i'm a relatively young nerd with a passion for MMJ and wellness in general.
     
  17. 710420

    710420 United we stand, divided we fall.

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    Nice site you got Steele. Good to be around people who have passion in their life.
    Been thinking a lot and doing a lot of research to see if GD will be right for me, and its looking like soon I might just try to make a batch for myself. Let you guys know whats going on when it goes down.
     
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  18. Steele Concept

    Steele Concept Transformer Tubes Manufacturer

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    Thanks @710420. I'd say with GD/Tincture always start slow as we emphasize here. Save it for the nighttime as it is more of a 'ride' in effects/duration than vaporization/combustion. Also, a lot of folks find that GD helps them get a good nights rest, with much more body high effects going on here which are pleasant.

    We will look forward to seeing how you like it!
     
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  19. 710420

    710420 United we stand, divided we fall.

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    Just found out that 191 proof everclear is not for sale in florida. Its illegal. will the 151 be fine? its only 75% alcohol. That's a bummer because I really wanted to make the highest quality possible. Any ideas?
     
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  20. Steele Concept

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    151 is fine - but not as good as stronger ethanol. You can go to the grocery store and check out their lemon extract, should be really strong like ever clear as well :) This McCormicks looks like it is 83%, which is a tad better than 75.5% AKA 151 proof liquor.
     
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  21. Snappo

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    There are online vendors who ship EC 190 to Florida. Try Liquor Barn;).
    http://www.theliquorbarn.com/
     
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  22. 710420

    710420 United we stand, divided we fall.

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    Im making this for my grandfather. He has cancer and my grandmother has had enough with just giving him what the docs are giving him so now she is all in on medical bud. Last night I was researching and the info I received is that you cant buy online because its illegal in Florida, but when I went to the website where they sell 191 and they did not have florida as one of the states that they don't ship to. Im alittle hesitant to purchase online if its illegal in florida. I don't want ATF OR DEA coming to my door for some stupid shit like that.

    Hey guys thanks for the quick response.
     
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  23. 710420

    710420 United we stand, divided we fall.

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    Im assuming moonshine will work just fine?! I have an older friend who makes his own. I don't see why not but I could be wrong, just a thought.
     
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  24. Steele Concept

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    Moonshine is fine. If your guy is solid at distillation he should be making very high proof liquor. Ask him what is the % of what he puts out his still, if it is higher than what you can get legally - it could be an option. If you are concerned with legality, understanding making moonshine is technically illegal.

    Now you have 4 options - Get 151, ship the Everclear, get lemon extract or grab some of your buddies moonshine.

    I believe the original Master Wu method called for 151.
     
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  25. Snappo

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    Hooch - Uncut, no water added, full potency will work. Know your source!!! My first GD was with 151 (it turned out very well). All my following batches were made with EC 190 (far superior!!!).
    To proof without a hydrometer (they are cheap, buy one and learn to use it), you would do a bead test. Half fill a small vial with your product. Hold it horizontal so the the longest part of the vial is where the Liquid level lays. Thwack it against the palm of your hand and look at the bubbles that collect at the surface line.

    You want what are called "duck eyes" or "bead devils" or "dead eyes". They are small evenly sized bubbles that don't pop immediately. Most importantly they are exactly half in and half out of the liquid. When you see these you are where you want to be for final product. Technically you would be around 80 proof, but you are probably anywhere between 80 to 100 proof until you get the hang of it. But seriously buy a hydrometer.
     
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