FlowerMate Vapormax V/V5.0/V5.0S/V5 Pro

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
Yes the Pro is a redesign of the 5-S, drawing experience gained with the FM8 release. Thanksfully they only backported the good aspects, as the FM8 hasn't seen the same kind of success, to say the least...

I got the original "V", the 5-S and the Pro and there are indeed differences, dunno if I would call them startling tho! :p

On top of that they keep improving their products and release incremental changes it seems. Don't worry too much! :)
 

serialtoker

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@KeroZen ,Na I'm not worried man, I would have just sent it back or lobbed it normally but I did niether I opened it up and that's when I noticed the fact that it had been hamstrung from the off, doubled spacer,partially blocked airpath,cracked and chipped chamber, despite all that I still harboured the thought that I could resurect it and the love affair would carry on. But Alas.
Anyway ma mini can't keep up so I got a loan of V5s to fill the gap and was quite shocked, (I use this word advisedly it's been a shocking week regards the pro) I paid 10 notes more for the pro than the V5s cost but the pro has an unglazed and as such markedly poorer quality ceramic chamber inside it,the V5s has a shiny sparkling fully glazed,floor included, chamber far better quality a great deal more robust and a lot easier to maintain, it's a no contest IMO
I hear you with regard to the improvements but that does'nt tally because the V5s (it has the led inside/older model)was bought in Aug( the pro in Oct this year and the pro is a newer model.I am also mindful of differing stock and vendors which alters equations regarding improvement,I think they've cut the cost of the oven to offset the temp control/display,just a thought
I loved my pro,I also killed it in 8wks, of which I'm ashamed, I hope it did'nt die in vain though the post mortem was most revealing and all part of me being up here in the first place,share your experience good or bad thats how things improve.Hopefully
I bought my pro largely because of this very thread and the people who have contributed to it, I value thier thoughts and advice and I still stand by it an them, Disappointed in Fm,but nobody builds the perfect product as yet and I do think I got the one in ??? I'm thinking of getting another but I will have to convince myself first

Do you get chinese answers on flowermateusa.com?

@KeroZen were the pic's any use to you?
 
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kellya86

Herb gardener...
This FM v5.0s is growing on me the more I use it, I'm getting consistant tasty clouds now, I think not fighting the awful draw restriction is key...

I only use it once or twice a day, battery lasts ages...

If the FM starts and begins to heat up, can I assume it knows it has enough power to finish a cycle???

Or could my session end, suddenly, mid session???
 
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I'm getting consistant tasty clouds now, I think not fighting the awful draw restriction is key...

If the FM starts and begins to heat up, can I assume it knows it has enough power to finish a cycle???

Or could my session end, suddenly, mid session???

Bad assumption. It has no way of knowing how much power you'll need (heat setting and amount of cold air drawn in in addition to how much actual THC you'll want to vape away (3 separate factors really) nor can it foretell how long your session might be (some only want a few hits). Foretelling the future in such an environment is not realistic. Keep track of the usage or expect surprises. The Pro version has a meter of course.

Glad you're getting to enjoy the FM. FWIW I don't agree the key is in "fighting the awful draw restriction", but rather seeing the restriction as part of the machine, and a necessary one. The maker could easily have made the restriction less, but the performance would not be there then.

IMO the restriction is not awful, evil, nasty or in anyway a bad thing......it is in fact our friend. And fighting with your friends is seldom a good idea.

Merry Christmas, it sounds like you're in for a Happy New Year.

It may be "huge" (about the size of a red bull can) it is a work horse and is perfectly portable for people who don't need to hide what they're doing.

Interesting perspective. I'm not sure it's in play in all cases, but for sure that's a factor in some.

I have both Solo and Air, and FWIW I think Solo is better suited to me. Longer battery life, but more important an accurate 'meter' I can count on (literally, 'a session per step') is important to me. The Air version is too crude (hard to tell exactly what's left) even with filters so I can actually 'read' the colors (there's a LOT of color blind folks out there, what sort of bonehead uses a color coding scheme we can't see????).

I also find the shape better with Solo for the casual style I use, the straight cylinder of Air is too easy to drop. I've done it several times, I don't recall a single Solo drop (I knock them off tables and stuff instead.

Nice to have choices, I think a guy should try both before he decides which is best?

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capcoho

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Well in my thousands of times using the FM I have never had it cut out before it finished a cycle. When it does finally cut off and blink at you it will need to be recharged for an hour or so before you can use it again. It is quite a smart little beast.

Battery literally lasts 10-10minute sessions. Also lasts longer then that if using it for back to back sessions.
 
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throwawaytre3s

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So I was using my pro earlier, and I couldn't help but notice. Vapor was leaking out the side of the flowermate, through ye presumably input holes. Should I be concerned?
 
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So I was using my pro earlier, and I couldn't help but notice. Vapor was leaking out the side of the flowermate, through ye presumably input holes. Should I be concerned?

I would be, vapor backflow will cause condensate in places you can't clean it out of.

I'd start with cure and packing (water vapor can push vapor backwards between hits).

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throwawaytre3s

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I would be, vapor backflow will cause condensate in places you can't clean it out of.

I'd start with cure and packing (water vapor can push vapor backwards between hits).

OF
I was using it through my d020, maybe it was the bsckpressure. I won't use it through that anymire.
 
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throwawaytre3s

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Been using the V5.0 Pro for several months :)
Just stumbled on to how to switch between Cel and Fahran setting.
So any debating at getting the V5.0 Pro, go for it.
It's funny, I prefer to use Fahrenheit on my FM V5 Pro, but I use celcius on my EQ. Just have my favorite temps for each one memorized. You know, my FM has been under utilized since getting home. Maybe I'll go fire it up.
 

ginolicious

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Hey you crazy bastards. Or maybe I'm the crazy bastard lol. I found this thread. I'm looking at the pro model for custom temperatures. I prefer convection as I like to pack small bowls and not tight. Draw resistance is a big issue with me. I do not have lung power to pull hard.

I'm a convection kinda of guy. My Vapir Rise desktop is convection and I love it. Just need that one portable at a reasonable price.

I'm considering this vape because we'll all the other ones I considered are a fortune. ESV is $483CDN. Crafty I do not want.

Air and Pax I have tried. Find there is way too much resistance and do not like it. Are all conduction vapes like those two?
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
Then you will likely find the FM5 has too much restriction. I personally don't think it's a problem because if you notice the restriction it means you are drawing too hard for the device anyways. The entire flow is designed in a way that maximizes the heater capacity. You can draw slower to get even more vapor, but if you draw faster than the music it will be counter-productive and vapor will be wispier.

If you are looking for an affordable convection vaporizer I would tell you to have a look at the recently released Firewood 3. If you are patient enough and don't mind the form factor, the Zion is also an excellent performer, and so far my personal favorite.
 

jackhammer

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Don't forget that the Mini has less draw restriction than the Pro and there is a new Mini Pro model out soon which should presumably have the same design. You'll have less battery power but more stealth.

In fact, the new Pro might have the same design in the new round of updates if you need more battery power.
 
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KeroZen

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Yes I'm eager to test the Mini Pro. The Aura Hybrid (which has a dedicated thread) looks equally interesting for those into e-cigs and liquids. They are damn fast to release new products!
 

OF

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Yes I'm eager to test the Mini Pro. The Aura Hybrid (which has a dedicated thread) looks equally interesting for those into e-cigs and liquids. They are damn fast to release new products!

Boy, ain't that the truth? They're going so fast they can't even come up with enough names. Look what PIU just got into stock:
https://www.puffitup.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FM.AURA&CartID=1

I can see all kinds of confusion coming from this, and lots of filthy lucre for those in the trade. So many choices.......

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KeroZen

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@OF : note that this one is the "Aura" not the "Aura Hybrid" (apparently it might be less interesting but we need more reviews) The Hybrid on the other hand can work as a VV mod box and attach to any 510 tank, as well as do conduction flowers like the FM5.
 
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@OF : note that this one is the "Aura" not the "Aura Hybrid" (apparently it might be less interesting but we need more reviews) The Hybrid on the other hand can work as a VV mod box and attach to any 510 tank, as well as do conduction flowers like the FM5.

Understood, but they really are two very different vapes (both physically and in terms of function). Absent the name you'd never confuse one with the other.

What percentage of innocent stoners do you think will understand/make the distinction? If "Aura" was a 'brand name' you'd expect something like "Aura Pen"? We're plenty confused already, no need to make it more so.

"I just got the new Aura and love it" is not all that descriptive anymore. It's more confusing than it should be IMO, perhaps there's a strategy in play to explain that but I sure don't see it.

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throwawaytre3s

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I feel like this new, sudden wave of vapes, may be flowermates response to the success of the v5 series. I don't think anything they produce can beat the v5, but I may be proven wrong. They may release something that will blow it out of the water, but I doubt it at this point. Their latest models haven't had the best form factor in my opinion, and it just all comes off as cheap, in a way. Not necessarily quality wise, but in that it's turned into "How can we stuff our v5 internals into a new body?"
 

OF

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Not necessarily quality wise, but in that it's turned into "How can we stuff our v5 internals into a new body?"

Great point. The key is the chamber, the rest is packaging it. And changing features. Such efforts have some added value, of course, but do so only for a subset of owners. I like the Mini because it's small and easy to use, not because it's better than it's larger brothers overall. More of 'a specialist's tool'.

Then again, it's not a bad strategy for FM I'm thinking........

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ginolicious

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A mini pro model. Now I'm intrigued. Maybe I can get away with this vape even though I do enjoy convection. Any conduction used I disliked.
 
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A mini pro model. Now I'm intrigued. Maybe I can get away with this vape even though I do enjoy convection. Any conduction used I disliked.

Not all conduction vapes are failures I think. FM, Solo/Air, and Vapman all do a bang up job for me. It has to be done 'right' of course, convection is easier to do that with I guess, but it also eats up power much faster doing so. And delivers more hot air to the user than needed in exchange. T1/Evolution/Cera and ESV being personal examples.

I too think the Mini Pro might be 'state of the art' in terms of size and features. I'll no doubt be giving yet more of my money to Randy to find out for sure when he gets them in.

So many good choices showing up, friends we are indeed 'walking in tall cotton'. Bravo Capitalism!

OF
 
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