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Ed's TnT Wooden Vapor Tubes & Vapor Stems

Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by Ed's TnT, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. stickstones

    stickstones Eccentric of mist Staff Member

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    could something squishy like the mflb push back ring work here?
     
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  2. Ed's TnT

    Ed's TnT Woodsman Manufacturer

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    Hm, it would have to have some force to be able to push the stem out, not sure that would be enough to make it happen.
     
  3. happyTrails

    happyTrails phishpanicjam

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    what about fastening a washer on top of any spring that has the right resistance? Then the exact diameter would not be an issue.
     
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  4. Ed's TnT

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    Thats sounds like a good idea, how would you fasten the two together though? Would have to be super strong and would have to handle the continuous action.
     
  5. stickstones

    stickstones Eccentric of mist Staff Member

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    I like this idea. if the spring were wide enough in diameter it might not need to be fastened at all. Just drop the spring in, then the washer, then the stem.
     
  6. Ed's TnT

    Ed's TnT Woodsman Manufacturer

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    This is a good idea, but one might loose the washer. I will give it a try!
     
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  7. Maynard G Krebs

    Maynard G Krebs Well-Known Member

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    I'm hangin.. but I just don't know how long I can live without one of these beauties..

    mgk :)

    What about a piece of medium density foam rubber down in the bottom of the tube holster..

    mgk :hmm:

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  8. Ed's TnT

    Ed's TnT Woodsman Manufacturer

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    Just guessing but think it would be hard to find something like that too. What do you have in mind?
     
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  9. happyTrails

    happyTrails phishpanicjam

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    JB Weld is pretty tough stuff.. Just bend the last part of the coil to create a relatively flat surface, run a bead of JB Weld, put it on top of the spring.... When it cures, drop the whole thing in the dugout.
     
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  10. Ed's TnT

    Ed's TnT Woodsman Manufacturer

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    Will do my good man! Good thinking!
     
  11. happyTrails

    happyTrails phishpanicjam

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    Happy to help! You should still have my address, so Royalty checks can be sent there :rofl:Best of luck. I really like the idea. Would be cool if there was an easy way to incorporate an ABV compartment, but that could be tricky I imagine.
     
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  12. Maynard G Krebs

    Maynard G Krebs Well-Known Member

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    Well, I work in a business where we use various types and densities of rubber. I was thinking if you took a round of medium density foam rubber (squishy, without being flimsy) with the same size round of a more dense (not foam) rubber plied together and then simply glued into the bottom of the stem holder. When you put your stem in it's spot, the softer foam rubber would collapse a quarter inch or 3/8s and you could close the top. When the top is swung open, the stem would pop up for your enjoyment.

    mgk :)
     
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  13. stickstones

    stickstones Eccentric of mist Staff Member

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    exactly, just like the mflb push-back ring
     
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  14. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    I think it will require something that will give at least 1/2" of "ups", and I don't think the rubber in the LB pushback ring would be able to "pop up" more than a couple of millimeters. Maybe 4 or 5 pushback rings together might work (or the equivalent volume in one big chunk)?

    Some sort of actual spring (with a disk platform) seems to me like it would be the most elegant solution imo.

    :peace:
     
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  15. Adobewan

    Adobewan Well-Known Member

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    Ed,
    I'm very interested in a Solo Dug-out as well! Seems like one of those, "How come someone didn't think of that earlier?"
    Also love the brainstorming going on. Pretty cool to have an engineering issue, throw it out into the forum, and a number of passionately involved people start problem solving.

    Ed, please talk to Hazy about creating a stem for the Hot Pod! I may be the only one that has one so far but they will be popular and one of your stems would enhance the experience very nicely.
     
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  16. Stu

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    For shits and giggles I put a LB pushback ring in to test it out.

    :peace:
     
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  17. VapeNStone

    VapeNStone Mark

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    just bend a paper clip and grab it with that. Or just get more push back rings like you said and jam another in there. :)
     
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  18. Ed's TnT

    Ed's TnT Woodsman Manufacturer

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    krebs is there any way I could get some of it? Am still gonna get the washers today and see how they work this week. Would like to have something to fall back on if they dont work out. Am hoping the JBWeld is gonna be strong enough to hold the bond between the spring and the washer. Havent had a whole lota luck outa JBWeld lately.

    Adobewan, maybe I can get this spring issue solved and you can get one of the remaining dugouts I have. I too think its great to have an issue have so many folks brainstorm it and try to find a fix. I was at a loss there.

    I appreciate you trying in the vid Stu, seems like it may work but you would have to have more than one in the bottom, just not thinking there would be enough force to really pop the stem out. You may still have to turn it upside down to get the stem out.

    I really thank you all for the above and your input, FC is a great place!
     
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  19. u bwade wunner

    u bwade wunner Well-Known Member

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    hey Ed

    these things and some strong organic gum glue or hot melt that will hold firm on wood.squirt drop the spring in and let it set.all that downward force on that spring I doubt it would move.

    or other option some foam sponge of the right thickness, holesawed to your'e chamber diameter.

    only issue there might be the notched hot edge of the solo bowl during use shredding or melting into that foam over time.I guess most people will drop their stems in bowl side up into the dugout but in the circumstances used i wouldn't bet on that:D.You could just glue a thin piece of wood ontop of the sponge to stop wear and tear.although thin wood glued to sponge separation might be an issue down the track with regular use.Eds stuff is for Life!

    I m thinking a spring is simple best,slide the lid & pop the stem out into your e hand with ease.Everyone likes simple and easy!

    have you allowed extra width in the stem part of the dugout for a mflb battery cap on the solo bowl? they fit great ,will take up very little space inside your'e dugout and will mean you can go with a preloaded stem in there and not worry about herbs falling out of the stem into the bottom of the dugout all over that nice spring.Just 3 mm extra diameter more than the stem or so should be enough.should keep everyones dugouts real tidy inside while out and about.:2c:


    did I mention I love my Crz stems before Ed thanks.they are a keeper:)
     
  20. Ed's TnT

    Ed's TnT Woodsman Manufacturer

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    Thats a great find Ubwade, I may give them a shot after I try the washer idea! Thanks for the post bro!
     
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  21. VapeNStone

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    I'm sure you could pre-load, but doesn't that defeat the point of the dugout in the first place? I mean its made to be able to not have to pre-load and be able to load on the go. :2c:
     
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  22. Maynard G Krebs

    Maynard G Krebs Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Ed, I can probably send you a couple samples of the materials that I had in mind. I'm not sure if I have any die stamps big enought for the diameter of the solo tube. I'll check it out tomorrow. I do think that battery spring looks like a better idea to me.. and a disk of wood over that would be a VERY nice touch.. I love this thread.. so much excitement of such a simple product..

    mgk
     
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  23. u bwade wunner

    u bwade wunner Well-Known Member

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    hey vape I haven t really seen the dugout in great detail, but Eds questions about the spring led me on to other things like design features which i love in products:) .I think its good to have choice to carry a part vaped stem or an empty stem in your'e dugout depending on the situation.

    The reason i mentioned a cap is because sometimes i carry the same stem and take hits as i go from the same bowl so cap my stem to conserve, or because of where i am.

    Saying that though,I guess if the stem is a good fit in the dugout stem chamber,herb wont fall down into it if its carried bowl side up.the lid of the dugout should hold it in place.in that case who needs a cap:shrug::)

    I use my solo only on occasion now. its still a good choice for out and about..i have two Lbs .one my new one is awful:\ just doesn t heat up and will be returned.my older koa box hits like a champ so i use it a lot..But its good to see such another fine piece of functional art coming along from Ed :)
     
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  24. Ed's TnT

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    Pls just tell me what I need to do Krebs!

    Thanks for your interest Ubwade!

    I hope all is well out there, I think I said I have gotten slammed all of a sudden. I am trying to finish up a 100 solo stems for the pin install and then just got another huge order for LB stems. Am gonna be in the shop the next few days as much as possible. Even have to contract some extra labor to help me get all this done. I am gonna give the spring washer idea a try in the next couple so hopefully by saturday I will have an update for the solo dugout. I do so much and offer so many products that some have become out of stock and others have been out of stock, I gotta get my ass in gear and get some pieces knocked out.

    Here I am back to time and trying to find some, if anyone knows where to find some pls let me know! Pls hang in there with me is all I ask!
     
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  25. Adobewan

    Adobewan Well-Known Member

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    Glad you're cranking busy Ed! You should be! As MMJ/vaporizers become more mainstream, I suspect your little business will boom!
    Peace bro!
     
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