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CERA, the wait & gibberish thread

Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by smokum, Dec 12, 2012.

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When will I get my CERA ?

Poll closed Feb 6, 2013.
  1. Next Week (Dec 17-22)

    21.7%
  2. Just Before Christmas

    1.4%
  3. Hopefull By NewYears

    13.0%
  4. Not Until AFTER NewYears

    34.8%
  5. Who Cares.... It'll Get Here When It Gets Here

    29.0%
  1. harmudge

    harmudge Active Member

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    Oh...I never knew that, never saw the innards of one.
     
  2. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    You probably will if you keep using it a lot. The weakness of the Extreme series is the glass heater cover, which breaks in many units and not always as the result of abuse. It is cheap and easy to replace yourself, but you will have to open the Extreme. There are pictures somewhere in the Extreme Q thread showing how to do it.
     
  3. LeTchen

    LeTchen A toute vapeur ! Retailer

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    Pakalolo says all ;)........ everyone must do his opinion ... disassembled the unit and make yourself your idea :D
     
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  4. iamn3ko

    iamn3ko Well-Known Member

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    Eek, does opening it void its warranty or anything?

    I'm sure it'll be a while before I have to replace anything though hopefully.


    My bong stem is 14mm, anyone know where to get a 14-to-18mm glass on glass converter?
     
  5. ogcook

    ogcook Well-Known Member

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  6. fake name

    fake name Well-Known Member

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    The replacement part is sold by arizer, so I don't think it voids the warranty, but I am not certain.

    And I used mine daily for more than a year before I had to replace the heater cover, and I was at fault for it breaking.

    Aqua lab has many converters 14/18, and you can also find them on etsy sometimes. If it is 14mm fitting though, there are attachments sold on ALT for it meant to be plugged right into the whip, as I think was someone's suggestion earlier.

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    So, the glass blower I contacted for a simple gong piece contacted me today. He just sent it out. The only things it will be used for are my Cera and my EQ. My main bubbler is broken, and I'm waiting on the blower to get back to me with a po box # so I can send it to get fixed up, so this will be just a temporary piece. But I am exited that I can hit the cera through brand new glass on its first use.
     
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  7. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    Hope everyone has a good weekend, hopefully next week we will be getting shipping notices and what not. Looking forward to the next phase of this ride.
     
  8. first post. im not so sure about that.
     
  9. iamn3ko

    iamn3ko Well-Known Member

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    Glad I ordered my Q! It's still gonna be a bit boys and girls, maybe find something to occupy the wait time?

    I'm guessing not next week but early the week after.
     
  10. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    yeah, I guess I was a little premature on that last post... have a good weekend in any case.
     
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  11. Oski2012

    Oski2012 Active Member

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    I don't think it was premature at all given ThermoTims latest updates. Can't wait to try Cera, but the phrase "late next week" is forever in my nightmares...
     
  12. PB88123

    PB88123 Vaporist

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    Question on concentrates.

    I have some shatter BHO and will put a half gram in. Now I will go days without using the Cera EO (to help keep my tolerance down / days I don't leave the house and will use herb). Will it be OK if I load it, use it, let the Cera sit for 3 days and then use it again? Will it taste bad? Not be as strong? I will of course add more as needed which could be every 2 weeks.

    Say I have 3g of some shatter and it will take me months to use it all. Can I store it / how can I store it so that it is the same potency as the day I bought it even though I am opening it and using it 2-3 months later? Dark, cool, air tight jar is all I need?

    My thinking is with the Cera EO I can quickly take strong hits while on the go and friends can easily take a hit if they want one. Then the days I don't use it I'll use herb at home in hopes to keep my tolerance in check.

    Anyone else thinking of doing it this way? Has anyone done it this way before?
     
  13. fake name

    fake name Well-Known Member

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    I can't say for certain, but my guess is it will effect the taste of the load if you pack it in full and use it for a while, but potentcy shouldn't be affected much. To some extent the heat will degrade the thc to other thc (delta9 to delta8), but I don't know if it will be different than when it hits the nail.

    To store it air tight and dark are important. For darkness- you want to avoid light because it degrades thc, particularly blue spectrum light. So either a fully dark container or a container with an amber hue. As for keeping it for months with the same potency, I haven't achieved it yet. It seems to degrade over time regardless. I would suggest keeping it cold, like in the freezer. I think this will help some along with the airtight dark container.

    And I'm hoping I can pack the cera once a week, maybe twice, and use it in a similar manner. The Rev looses some flavor, but doesn't seem to have an effect on potency, over time with larger loads. I think this will be similar but improved with the CEO.
     
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  14. YeeeBuddy

    YeeeBuddy Well-Known Member

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    I will be doing this or I'm seriously considering switching to EO almost completely to save cash, From how many hits the dude got from a .1 ball, lets say 10 im pretty sure it was more, so roughly 100+ fat vape rips per gram of oil, oil here is 40-50 a gram so pretty much the same i pay for an eighth of flower and i know i dont get anywhere near 100 hits from that,more like 30 bong rips. My only concern is vaping straight EO gonna medicate me as well as bong loads of really good flowers? Ive been trying to stay away from concentrates until the cera gets here to keep my tolerance down. Anyone switch from flowers to EO, how does it compare?
     
  15. 2ndSight

    2ndSight Active Member

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    YeeeBuddy: as far as comparing flowers to EO--in my personal experience, EO can often be stronger after the initial onset, but also fades much quicker (doesnt last as long as flowers). Similar to bubble or any other type of hash i'd say. And i kinda figure you gain a tolerance to either one pretty quick if ya do lots of it :rockon: I'd say getting 100 hits per gram may be a bit of an overestimate, but it certainly depends on the consistency of the oil. It can, in theory, be more economic than flowers, but it really depends how much ya blast through! hehe
     
  16. PB88123

    PB88123 Vaporist

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    I've been trying to figure out base on my usage if switching to EO completely would be less cash in the end compared to herb. I also wonder how many hits I would need a session and how many sessions a day.

    It's $50-$60 a gram for me and if I made it myself $35-$45 a gram. Then I gotta figure in the cost for all the equipment which might be a $300 one time cost.

    In the video of the EO he used .25g and got 37 hits I believe which means 150 ish hits to a gram.

    For herb I get around 80 hits a gram. I take 15-20 hits a day at home from my log vape.

    Herb - $12 / gram - 80 hits - 15 cents a hit - $3 / day for 20 hits
    Oil - $55 / gram - 150 hits - 36 cents a hit - $3.60 / day for 10 hits

    Oil price could be lower if I made my own and if I don't take such big hits the hit count could go up. I just don't know how many hits a day from EO I would need.

    If only I had thousands of extra dollars of fun money I wouldn't care. So that's why an EO might be part time and I'll stick to herb incase my EO habit gets out of hand and I'm vaping $5 a day.

    I may just stick to the LL and go the bubble hash route like I originally planned since that may be more in my price range and give that extra little boost to a bowl I'm looking for.
     
  17. YeeeBuddy

    YeeeBuddy Well-Known Member

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    damn you conserve pretty well, I just take bong loads so I go through alot more flowers. In your situation i dont think going to EO full time would be economical. Sounds like i still could save some $$ by vaping more EO and burning less if this thing is really as efficient as the videos show.

    here dude gets 9-10 fat clouds off a .1 ball of wax, dunno what kind of wax definately some are gonna vape faster though , i think he got less hits off .5 of PG than from .25 of a more waxy EO. So i dunno roughly 80- 100 rips doesnt seem unreasonable. Hey for you oil heads out their can u really tell a difference with wax made from sative vs indica.

     
  18. fake name

    fake name Well-Known Member

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    For what it worth, IMO a vape for herb is still the most efficient way to consume cannabis. Well, at least in terms of consumming it through the lungs. Don't get me wrong, it is totally possible to save money switching to oils, but I think it is not typically the case. When I started oils I cut back on my consumption, but that was because I could better regulate my medical issue with them so I didn't need to vape as much preventively through out the day.

    Most people I know that errl go through way more now, though. They say it has upped their tolerance, and it can be consumed much faster.

    Yeeebuddy, my experience has been oils medicate me much better than bong rips, but it is different. If you have access to cbd and cbn heavy oils you should have a good amount of the spectrum covered. But, some of the less talked about cannabinoids may not be as present as in flowers. I do seem to get medicated for longer on them, but I get high for about the same as if I smoked or vaped the flowers. My issues will be settled for much longer with oils though, even after I'm done being high, which isn't the case with the flowers.
     
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  19. LeTchen

    LeTchen A toute vapeur ! Retailer

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    If you want to compare the differences, this can help you : :lol::rofl: :spliff:



     
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  20. YeeeBuddy

    YeeeBuddy Well-Known Member

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    Yea I think I'm gonna end up getting the ll cart once everything is settled and I get some more $
     
  21. AirDru

    AirDru Well-Known Member

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    I was considering canceling the LL core because of the momentary button. I don't wan to hold down a button on the bottom for long LL sessions period.
     
  22. ogcook

    ogcook Well-Known Member

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    I'm (sorta) in the same boat. I was really looking forward to an on/off switch then thumb control that could just be pushed back and forth. Luckily I haven't pre-ordered because if basic designs like this were being changed after them having $300-420 of my money for a month I would be flipping out. Hopefully we get an official word of what's happening instead of just what OF has to offer us. It seems like compromises are being made and it worries me.
     
  23. LeTchen

    LeTchen A toute vapeur ! Retailer

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    ???? I don't understand what you said... you don't have to hold the button on the bottom
     
  24. AirDru

    AirDru Well-Known Member

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    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/thermovape-cera.7504/page-112#post-321868

    i believe OF states that the original on/off switch is very delayed. in the meantime units will ship with a momentary switch (momentary switch needs to be held) on the bottom. once the original switches are ready TET will send them to customers. you get to keep both switches.
     

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