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Arizer Solo II

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by bluenavey00, Jan 31, 2017.

  1. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    With ya there, MB. Another fun MP to try is the one from Vapor Genie. There are actually two, the newer ones being larger in diameter. They're made of poly carbonate, the same stuff we make 'bulletproof' glass for big shot's cars and banks, and safety glasses, from. Mighty tough.....

    I like the pipe stem idea, they are available from pipe shops. A guy can go through them faster than fancy pipes so having a new one fit is a common service. I have one remaining pipe, a full bent Meerschaum lined briar from Africa. In my smoking days it saw a lot of service and went on several adventures with me over a lot of years. It's on it's fourth (or perhaps fifth?) stem. I 'lost' two in the first few years (about two years apart). By the next time the shop had a different name and women's handbags in the window. I didn't actually check to see if they still replaced stems, but it seemed a safe assumption.

    For myself I use the plastic topped ones maybe half the time. I like the one with the built in bubbler and the bent and straight original ones from time to time. For travel I prefer them this way:
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    Loaded, of course. Or used. That is, I reload at home and might carry several stems. Sometimes with different strains in fact. Below you can see how I use a short bit of tube and the same sort of (half inch nominal) cap to seal the top. No spills, no smell, instant availability. I use high temperature caps (450F for 15 minutes) so I can snap them on a hot stem and return them to the pocket pronto.

    OF
     
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  2. McSheamus

    McSheamus Well-Known Member

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    I asked Arizer and since I'm in Europe I've dealt with their offficial repair contact in Germany.
     
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  3. AJS

    AJS Calm Consistency

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    After some reading today I think I'm gunna bust out the Solo 2 today. It's been a while and it's such an awesome unit.

    @ataxian if it helps convince you to get one ... I will send you my Solo 2 for a week vacation in your lovely state if you'd ever like me to. Just let me know. Provide your own stems .. I don't trust you with my glass :) ;)
     
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  4. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I will get a SOLO#2 one day!
    My SOLO #1 is alive and working well?

    The FLAVOR is CIVILIZED.

    My CANNABIS is usually of awesome quality which gives me the EFFECT I desire!
     
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  5. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    Cool. I'm in Toronto, so I'm dealing with Arizer directly.

    Interesting to note, that the error codes aren't just with North American units and chargers.
     
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  6. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    In a way, it's what I'd expect? I think the NA and EU versions are the same (there don't seem to be any indications WRT serial numbers (not that Arizer hasn't thrown a few curves there in the past......). I'd guess the EU one is metric.........

    Chargers must produce DC to run the charging circuit. At least in theory. Issues there would show a slow/no charging you'd think? The issue is the connector, the circuit inside can handle the total expected range, from a little under the 100 Volts in Japan up to the 240 found in many European locations. If anything I'd expect connector issues ('like UK ones don't always work in old sockets' or something?).

    I'll admit I haven't been paying much attention to date due to low issue count. As I understand we have two fault codes, one more common than the other, both fatal. That is the unit doesn't recover and has to 'go to the shop'? All have been replaced? At least one guy reported shaky operation a cycle or two before the world ended. That is he got it to work for a session or so before crashing. At least in his case it was marginal for a bit before going out completely?

    Sounds to me like a 'soft fault', something gets out of spec and the processor calls time out. Which doesn't fit with the report of 'self resets'........ Something like all that power sucking the battery pack down momentarily. Understand it's not just the two cells, but the wiring, connectors, circuitry on the boards and so on. But if it doesn't measure expected power levels delivered to the heater, that's a traditional reason to fault out. Likewise, getting 'ahead of schedule' (like say the heater looses thermal contact with the cup so heats too fast with all that power and no load to heat)?

    Interesting mystery, fun conjecture. More specific experience is needed I think. Details just before (and after of course) are needed if we want to find a pattern. Especially ones that recover for a bit on their own.

    Any help would be appreciated, be fun to get a grip on this I think. Nobody's had a repeat, right? That is nobody has had a replacement unit go belly up on them as well?

    TIA

    Regards to all.

    OF
     
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  7. djm

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    Finally came in the mail! Charging now and will try out tonight!

    And I remember some discussion of this, just wanna confirm my serial code is actually engraved on the bottom of the unit itself. Just finished my first stem and I think I am weirdly gone...

    This is crazy how many hits I can get off a stem that holds less than half of what a bowl would.:clap:

    Ok I just had almost a 30 minute session with some stuff that I know combusting, it makes for amazing weed. Now I barely feel buzzed and my tolerance is not high atm.

    I mean, I know I read it may take longer to onset but this seems a bit silly.... don't wanna have to sell this back...
     
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  8. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    Make sure you edit your post instead of dropping a new one. Back to back posts is frowned upon.


    What temp did you vape at? Temperature will have alot to do with the type of high you achieve.

    It takes most people a little while to adjust their expectations when they start vaping.

    Often times a small T break (3 days) will help.


    Personally I can get a lot higher vaping - especially running back to back to back bowls. But generally I keep things at a 6-7/10 for day time, 7-8/10 for the evening and 8-9/10 for bed time. This is achieved through temperature controls.
     
  9. djm

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    I intentionally started all the way at 428 just to ease the transition between combusting and vaporizing.

    EDIT: But you're saying I have to "adjust my expectations" to just not getting high anymore?
     
  10. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Listen to the man, he knows what he's saying because he's been there? We all have. It takes a few days to a few weeks, depending, I'd say the average is a week? That's with zero vaping. NONE. If you want to change.......

    Your brain (like everyone else's) has formed a link between choking on the nasty stuff in smoke and getting off. It (your brain) expects to get off when it gets that signal based on experience. Like Pavlov's dogs and that bell. You can't taste or otherwise sense THC but you sure can the toxic junk? If fact, you can smoke weed that has all the THC stripped (to make concentrate) but still 'burns right' and get off 'out of habit' as long as you don't know it.

    Your brain has to learn that 'you don't need to stick your face in the camp fire to get off'. It can take a while sometimes, but we all did it. Then you get the benefits, clearer highs, lower weed costs, better smells and a longer life. But 'backslide' just once, and smoke, and your brain has to start all over again. Do that a few times and you're likely to have real troubles 'breaking through' as you brain knows it's going to get rewarded again eventually.

    It really happening I think, you do absorb THC and it does act on receptors, it's just that you don't recognize it yet because you're not gasping, choking and having your eyes turn red. Expecting full benefit right out of the chute isn't realistic. Funny thing is you forget how really nasty smoke is (remember how you choked on it?) over time. Vaping for a while then 'trying a toke or two' is usually and enlightening disaster. Smoking is just as nasty as ever, but now your brain knows this isn't a good way to get to THC.

    Run the drill, hang in there, good results will follow if you do. Just not first time.

    OF
     
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  11. djm

    djm Active Member

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    I hope you're right, man. I'll give it some time.
     
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  12. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    If I didn't believe it I would not say I did. And I sure wouldn't encourage you to take advice that wasn't sincere and fact or experience based. I'm not guessing but speaking from experiences both personal and discussed on these Forums.

    Notice how nobody jumped in and said 'OF is full of it, again' or 'that's how how it works for me'? It's well covered should you care to read up on the effect. One article I read years back suggested it's partly a timing thing, your reaction to the toxic junk is immediate (your mind knows right away and can respond in time) while the 'stone' effect comes later as THC levels in the blood build and can start jamming sensors. Your subconscious keys on the immediate clues, not the THC that follows later. Makes sense to me. But no matter the reasons, the effect is real. 'Everyone experienced it'.......hopefully soon so will you. Once you become a True Believer you can encourage the next new friend that happens along?

    Like I said, an interesting (at least to me) effect is the near universal experience that blazing is a disgusting thing to do after folks adopt vaping instead. Accidental combustion (possible in many vape designs) brings instant disaster to the user, much as he or she might have craved i........those kinds of posts abound as well. Guys really get to hate combustion.......hence the name of the Forum?

    I get it it's not 'natural', nor what many/most expect but it is the way it works. A tough 'price' to pay, perhaps, but IMO well worth it. And I know I'm far from alone in that. Have faith, lesser men than you have made this work. Run the drill, it'll put you on the path. Finding True Enlightenment after that is up to you........

    You'll find a lot of us that 'converted' and avoid blazing at all costs. But not so many 'oh, yeah, I used to waste my time vaping, now I go with big old blunts' types?

    Then again, there's more old drunks than there are old Doctors.

    Regards to all.

    OF
     
  13. I'm Ron Burgundy?

    I'm Ron Burgundy? I love vape

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    I'm hoping to get this vape by the new year. I ordered a Arizer Air / Solo H2O Filtration Stem for when that happens.
    I will experiment using it with my Air in the meanwhile. :razz:
     
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  14. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    @djm You can get a cleaner high and a better one with just vaporizing. If you continue to smoke your cannabis vaporizing may not work well for you. You need to stop the combusting and vaporizing at a high temp, that will help you get there. With vaporizing it will cut down on the negative chemicals entering your lungs. Vaporizing will just get better for you.

    All these folks on FC couldn't be all wrong.

    The Arizer Solo 2 is a easy way to get the job done. I would vaporize at 390 degrees and above. Whatever feels comfortable to your lungs. Go for a long session of 15 min. Using water filtration can take away from flavor but allows you to hit those high tempretures without too much discomfort.

    When we are young we feel invincible as we get older we realize that we are not and need to take better care of our bodies.

    Good luck with your transition. We've all been there.
     
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  15. djm

    djm Active Member

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    I just wanna know that I'll still be able to achieve the moments of euphoria
     
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  16. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    I'd suggest getting a small water pipe/bubbler with a single perc and a Gong for your solo II. You will be able to run back to back bowls in a few minutes, providing an experience closer to combustion.

    Also, slow down your draw technique to allow better heat transfer to your medicinal. A typical draw for me is 15-25 seconds.

    You may find yourself going through herb a little faster when you first start vaping, but that will level off as you find the right temperatures to get the effect your chasing. It's a cleaner experience even at high temperatures so the 'burn out' isnt really noticeable.

    When you think a bowl is done, give it another 30 seconds of heat soak and try another slow draw. If you get vapor you can keep using the bowl if you want.

    I tend to toss mine when the flavour fades away and the vapor production is airey.

    Final tips (in this post), medium coarse grind, light finger tamp, heat soak before the first pull - 20-30s after it reaching temp
     
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  17. djm

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    2nd session with TWO stems and same outcome. Barely feel high in any way. This is sorta discouraging but I'm gunna keep trying...
     
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  18. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall anyone telling you it would only take a second time. If that was the case for you that would be exceptional......no, make that a record? Definitely not normal or to be expected. IMO oe thing sure: if you're using it with that expectation ('a profound change is going to happen this time') the very fact you're 'telling yourself' means it's not going to happen? Think about it, this is a brain thing. Seriously. "It's all in your head". That has to change, you need to break the link not expect it to break itself.

    Let me ask you another question? Did you get off the first time you smoked weed? Neither did I, nor 'most people'. Not like say drinking or 'hard drugs', ones with physiological effects. The first time you smoke weed (get seriously exposed to THC) it happens 'normally', just you don't know what to expect. Same sort of thing in play as I understand it.

    So the only guy expecting it to happen the second time around here would be you? The rest of us expect it to take a few days to a few weeks. Unfortunately I think the more you push at it, the longer the process? You need to 'unlearn' something (you need to choke to get off) first. Having a 'see, I told you so' attitude can seriously work against you. It very unlikely to happen while you're looking for it. Ever eat THC? It's like that (it 'sneaks up on you').

    Run the drill, it will happen, but most likely while you're 'not looking for it'. Santa isn't going to bring the presents as long as you're staring down the fireplace.......

    OF
     
  19. djm

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    Even though it was a hypothetical, I actually got sky high the first time I smoked, for the record. But I'll keep plugging away only cuz I don't want to have wasted $200 on this thing.
     
  20. Tuck

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    Every vape has its learning curve. Experiment with temps and draw speeds. Higher temps with slower draws tend to get closer to combustion with my desktop Vapes. I haven't tried the solo 2, but I did try my buddy's solo and the air. It's been a while though.

    Just keep going on a session until your flower is dark brown almost black. Flavor will take a hit but you might get that feeling you are looking for.
     
  21. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    I love a portable vaporizer and use one often but you will get more high with a desk style vaporizer because they are more powerful. I would save up for a desk style unit as a back up. I know You just bought the Solo 2 so it might take awhile to get another vaporizer. Then you will have the best of both worlds.
    I love the Solo 2 but it's not the most powerful vaporizer but that's not what I always want. I like excellent flavor when I vaporize and during the day I don't want to get completely wrecked. I save powerful for before bed.

    Check out the plug in style units. I love a log vaporizer as well.

    I think the EVO would blow you away.
    A lot of people swear by the VapCap and you can get one for $50, you would be using a butane lighter with the VapCap. It wouldn't be so expensibe and it's a portable. Maybe I strayed too much from talk of the Solo 2, sorry..... back to the Solo talk.
     
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  22. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    That is exceptional, really. Not unheard of, but really very rare I understand. It's pretty well documented. One paper on this I read a while back suggested those who experience it actually had some exposure (either incidental or 'contact high') before hand.

    Your call. My advice is to be objective, question your assumptions and expectations. Good luck with it.

    OF
     
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  23. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge Retailer

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    It takes me two stems to get there with the Solo, and I'm used to vapor. Remember it's bowl is on the small side for a portable vape, so you might need multiple bowls, especially if you are a heavy smoker. You may need two weeks of not smoking and only vaping to get it right.
     
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  24. djm

    djm Active Member

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    I'm gunna try 3 bowls tonight
     
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  25. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Your call, of course. That's about 3/4 of a gram (.25 per on average), does it normally take you that much? Given that half or more of the THC is destroyed by fire it's more like 'does it normally take you a gram and a half a session'? You can only get out what you put in, of course, but vaping means you'll get much more of it as less is destroyed just before it gets to you. Expensive fuel.......

    Very high tolerance can be the problem of course, but I doubt it as I don't think you'd be expecting miracles like smaller loads than normal?

    Once again, good luck with it.

    OF
     

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