Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud

Im loving my cloud. Shipping was discreet, and I got 8 free ELB's. The shipping was really fast and the box inserts are pretty cool. Im reusing them. I tossed my gel cover thing because I had trouble applying it, but I prefer the metal look. Anyways, words cant describe my experience with the cloud. I just hope it stays like this forever. The only problem I have had is that im finding it hard to put it down. Once it has been pre-heated for about 20 minutes, I cant help but rip through a few ELB's. so in the last few days my consumption has increased but Im not complaining. Life is good with my cloud by my side.

Stu, that's a badass vid. Rivals any! Right on. Damn,,and Wiley's shot.

A few questions:

1) Does anyone know when the Cloud will be available for 220V?

2) I would love to see some more opinions on the Cloud vs the LSV. Anyone?

3) Perhaps not for this thread, but how important are clouds for effect? I've been using the Aromed 4 and the Solo with the same water pipe. Both are great, but in completely different ways. The Solo produces thick vapor, but there is a lot of drag. The Aromed produces little or no visible vapor, but is very precise and there is no noticeable drag at all. Both are very effective.


Thanks.

1) Last hearing from VX about this was early 2013. Yes, it sucks, but it's imo way better, than make it happen too fast and then get overflooded with warranty claims. That would harm their economy and would upset customers. They are still perfecting the unit, no ammount of betatesting prepares a product for full launch, the US launch revealed a lot of hidden design glitches. And they are getting resolved steadily, so the Cloud is getting closer to be released to the world. Also there is a lot of bureaucracy to be done before this can happen. I've been too waiting for this for a looong time, but I also don't want to spend my over-year savings for a procuct, that will die, becuase it's not perfect. The Cloud has the potential to be lasting forever, as glass remains like new forever (if not broken) and is completely cleanable. Just the electronics must not crap out.

2) LSV doesn't have moisture conditioning in default, and has very different heater. LSV has ceramic heater inside the intake tube, which vapes the center of the bowl and so you have to stir. The Cloud has heater wrapped around the air intake tube, so the air gets heated evenly and the temperature doesn't drop with faster pull as there is a lot bigger heating surface. Also that turbo hole in the VXC is giving significant performance boost. And glass being heat exchanger could give cleaner taste that ceramic in the LSV.

3) Big clouds will give you that immediate and satisfying hit that light hits can't do (light hits will always creep on you). However it's harder to absorb these big hits efficiently. Because they will urge you to cough if too big and also they need to be held longer. Small hits are easy to absorb efficiently, but will take a lot of them to get high and the high will creep, not hit.

Great answer, many thanks Seek. I guess I'll get the LSV now and the Cloud when the 220V version is launched. I'll be interesting to compare the two. Vaping with a decent bubbler has really opened my eyes to how herb can be enjoyed in a better way -- and yes, I do enjoy a good creeper.

stu...it's been a while since I had some LA Con to run through! using some platinum kush right now that is insane! i love how peoplw are digging their ion/cloud combos!

marcellus...you've got some serious skills!

Marvc said:

Is there a hidden message there partial?

If someone touches your HT's you'll cut them? Lol

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Hrm...I do like knives...AND cutting stuff! You should see my collection of hunting knives... Anyway, the knife block was just a convenient prop to help people get an idea for HT size No hidden messages intended.


So...it is Thanksgiving weekend up here in the Land of Ice and Snow and I was thinking over the things that I'm thankful for. Mary Jane is very high on that list and this year I'd have to say that the Cloud is holding her hand. The Cloud is the best thing that has happened to my Mary Jane habit since...well...since I discovered Mary Jane or, at the very least, since I discovered vaporizing. So, yes, I am thankful, and I plan to follow up my turkey, gravy, root veggies, pumpkin pie and spiced ale with a big fat ELB. Thank you VXL


ETA: Stu that video is awesome. The Matrix Ion and VXC are really a great pair. I sold mine off to make room for the Devastator...but I regret it whenever I watch someone else hit theirs. The Ion is such a great size for vapour and the Matrix is soooo smooth...enjoy the hits!


2nd Edit: Regarding the HydraCirc vs. the HydraTree, I don't feel the need to give much detail on my own opinions on the difference between perc styles but I do want to pass on what my friend said to me yesterday. I feel like this should help people who are trying to choose because, while he appreciates glass pieces and even agrees with the possibility that well made glass is tantamount to a piece of functional art, he doesn't have a very extensive range of practical experience. His immediate first reactions, however, were that the circ hits "easier", with more diffused and slightly airier hits (and he also found it "easier" due to the wider mouthpiece) and that the tree had a little more drag or felt slightly more restricted, but was a tiny bit more flavourful. He also said the tree looked way cooler, which I will agree with haha

I'm loving how the Cloud is spreading the love of scientific and high end glass to the vape commnunity! I never understood why vaping and quality glass were so seperated.

For the person who asked about compairing the LSV and the Cloud: I've only used the LSV with the old style water pipe adapters that didn't hold the screens in well. Like any of the 7th Floor Industry products the quality and size of your hit really depends on your draw speed and strength of your draw. I have no problem getting similar size hits from both the Cloud and the LSV using the short water pipe adapter, but I know many people who can't get a similar hit from the LSV at all. I did not like using the long water pipe adapter with the LSV.

The LSV allows for more options than the cloud right off the get go (assuming you allready own a water piece) since you can pair it to a water vessal, dry hits, or use the heating element itself. Most of the parts that will break on the LSV are pretty cheap and easily replaceable which I find to be a huge plus. If you snap off the male joint on the Cloud you're going to need a new unit (why I don't like letting other people use my Cloud). In that aspect the LSV can be much more cost forgiving.

I find it more awkward holding the LSV up to other pieces than I do when I invert the Cloud to use with other pieces. Both the LSV and the Cloud get pretty warm to hold after a bit of use (my Cloud runs hot so mine feels hotter to hold than the LSV, but my friend who has tried a few different Cloud units and the LSV says that most of them feel the same temperature wise while holding them).

I have a hard time figuring out what to do with the LSV inbetween uses because of it's round design and protruding heating element. I personally dislike sticking the LSV in cups or other random items. The Cloud always feels nice and stable sitting on a table, and I'm not worried about people or items getting burnt by it while not in use.

What I love most about the Cloud is how it performs awsome with any height and bore size water piece I've paired it up to. I can get a gratifying experience using the LSV with a 18" piece that has a 50mm bore, but pairing it up with a 14" piece with a 75mm bore leaves much to be desired. I'm tempted to pair the Cloud up with a double chamber 24" piece that has a 100mm perhaps 110mm bore (can't remember the exact bore size but it's huge) becuase I feel it'll be able to milk that sucker up no problem.

I feel that the LSV is great for the person who likes to tinker around with things, and change up their vapor by there own breath, and the Cloud is perfect for those that need a easy, no work involved, instant gratification (medicated) experience.

So I've been running my Cloud at 3 o'clock for the last few days, and starting to notice my loads are charring at the bottom. I don't know if this is considered combustion, but it's turning black at the end of my ELB. Should this be happening at 3 o'clock setting? Everything SEEMS to be running as it should at lower temps.

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So I've been running my Cloud at 3 o'clock for the last few days, and starting to notice my loads are charring at the bottom. I don't know if this is considered combustion, but it's turning black at the end of my ELB. Should this be happening at 3 o'clock setting? Everything SEEMS to be running as it should at lower temps.

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I can't speak about every cloud, but mine doesn't "char" even at max temp. I get a very dark brown throughout, but no black.

A tweet from earlier


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jambandphan03 said:

So I've been running my Cloud at 3 o'clock for the last few days, and starting to notice my loads are charring at the bottom. I don't know if this is considered combustion, but it's turning black at the end of my ELB. Should this be happening at 3 o'clock setting? Everything SEEMS to be running as it should at lower temps.

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is there any restriction in air flow. air flow is key for the cloud. is the elb clogged or the bottom covered.

Airflow is good, and I am using a clean ELB... maybe mine just runs a bit hot. I won't worry too much unless it starts doing it at lower temps. I am going back to 12 o'clock for a while to see how that performs/behaves. I will keep those points in mind though about air restriction.

Heres another nice little stir tool for the Cloud: The Happy Daddy Baby Buddah. The little concave end can act as a scoop for kief/concentrates. I just picked one up and it works great! They also have other Happy Daddy steel tools designed for different purposes, but I like this one best for using with the Cloud because it's nice and small and not too sharp.

http://www.brotherswithglass.com/Happy_Daddy_Stainless_Steel_Baby_Buddah_p/bwg-hdbbt6.htm

skyline said:

Heres another nice little stir tool for the Cloud: The Happy Daddy Baby Buddah. The little concave end can act as a bonus scoop for kief/concentrates. I just picked one up and it works great! They also have other Happy Daddy steel tools designed for different purposes, but I like this one best for using with the Cloud because it's nice and small and not too sharp.

http://www.brotherswithglass.com/Happy_Daddy_Stainless_Steel_Baby_Buddah_p/bwg-hdbbt6.htm

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Nice, but pricy- $13.45 with shipping, for one. Vaporstore has the best stir tool for the money I've found. It's not for scraping but good for stirring and scooping, and you can get 6 for under $8.
https://www.vaporstore.com/proddetail.php?prod=2stirtools&cat=63

max said:

Nice, but pricy- $13.45 with shipping, for one. Vaporstore has the best stir tool for the money I've found. It's not for scraping but good for stirring and scooping, and you can get 6 for under $8.
https://www.vaporstore.com/proddetail.php?prod=2stirtools&cat=63

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This /\ or the Epik tool, from epic vape...I haven't had a Cloud session without my e-pik, since it arrived in my mailbox. It (IMO) is a must have, with the tighter fitting ELBs, and in general.

Epik tool FTW! It's the perfect Cloud companion.

I was bored so I decided to tape a few hits.

Well the cloud has departed. I just dropped it off at the post office. Can't wait to get my replacement. My other vapes just don't compete and leave me begging for more....

Just realized this is my most used vape and least discussed topic...

Thats because there is still nothing to say. Heat hit in bubbler enjoy. EVERY time. Nothing has changed and that is a great thing. I don't even feel the need to change it just for the sake of it, and thats saying a lot for me.

Johny Chaos said:

Well the cloud has departed. I just dropped it off at the post office. Can't wait to get my replacement. My other vapes just don't compete and leave me begging for more....

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If you're not a medical user, and don't have any 'need' to use cannabis on a day to day basis, you could utilize your time without the Cloud, to implement a mini t-break...The benefits of even a short one, can be fairly profound from what I hear. If not, I'm sorry that your stuck with sub-cloud vapes...

Here's to a speedy replacement!

Honestly "non-cloud days" feel like a mini tbreak enough to me, since that means I'd be away from home and using portables.

darkrom said:

Just realized this is my most used vape and least discussed topic...

Thats because there is still nothing to say. Heat hit in bubbler enjoy. EVERY time. Nothing has changed and that is a great thing. I don't even feel the need to change it just for the sake of it, and thats saying a lot for me.

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I know what you mean! It's just sooooo consistently perfect! I will say, the only two things I would add (and have) to a Cloud package, are an e-pik, for the ability to remove bowls easily, as well as stir/grind. And, the Belkin WeMo (there is a discussion thread for it, mostly pertaining to Cloud use AFAIK.) With those three things, medicating (for me) couldn't hardly be less of a hassle. It is so simple, and consistent. Aside from user error, (accidentally not filling, or even putting an ELB in the cloud...forgetting to cap the ELB, etc) the Cloud just always works, just right.

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Honestly "non-cloud days" feel like a mini tbreak enough to me, since that means I'd be away from home and using portables.

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I haven't used anything other than the Cloud, aside from dabbing oil, since getting the Cloud. I have my supreme, but I don't think i've used it since. If I have, it wasn't comparable enough to remember I'm sure nothing comes even close!

Waiting patiently for my Cloud sleeve, glad to here that so many people will be able to utilize it, even if it means a slightly longer wait. I apologize for my past post about not getting my sleeve, or any email about it, for being so hasty. I didn't realize that so many people had contacted you (troi/vxl) about getting one, that quickly.

Anyone here have more than 3-4 HT's yet? Just curious...I'm sure someones gotta be getting a collection going!

Purpl3_Haz3 said:

If you're not a medical user, and don't have any 'need' to use cannabis on a day to day basis, you could utilize your time without the Cloud, to implement a mini t-break...The benefits of even a short one, can be fairly profound from what I hear. If not, I'm sorry that your stuck with sub-cloud vapes...

Here's to a speedy replacement!

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Medical user for back pains from an old fracture and insomnia. Due to med use for pain my tolerance could use a break but unfortunately my body cannot. The HydraTube works well connected to my other vapes for now, I just use a one of the elbow joints that was used for bags on the v-tower hooked to the tube which fits in the bottom of the hydratube

Johny Chaos said:

Medical user for back pains from an old fracture and insomnia. Due to med use for pain my tolerance could use a break but unfortunately my body cannot. The HydraTube works well connected to my other vapes for now, I just use a one of the elbow joints that was used for bags on the v-tower hooked to the tube which fits in the bottom of the hydratube

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Edit* I 'Liked' your post for the latter part of it; the hydratube/other vapes setup.

I here ya, it's been a long time since I have had a t break, using cannabis to replace numerous meds from pain to anti anxiety/depression. I mostly can't deal with the lack of appetite without it, in combination with the back pain. I also haven't tried to sleep without cannabis in ages either.

Nice setup by the sounds of things, to hold you over. Using the HT must help just a little bit in making it seem Cloud like...