Baron23
Well-Known Member
Not sure I understand this? I find that the SiC Halo gives me plenty of room (and visibility) to wipe my dab right around the Halo.
Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding you??
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Not sure I understand this? I find that the SiC Halo gives me plenty of room (and visibility) to wipe my dab right around the Halo.
Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding you??
ensabbahnur
Hash Vacuum
If you have SIC of the V2 era then Id assume it isn't mirror polished and has grainy pores, which is all WIK is, so I doubt that has any bearing. I do think a better cap will make a day and night difference in the Liger, the CCA caps at their best are only so-so. Ive had the best experience with the Wierdeer cap for both sizes and the Mobius directional cap has worked really well for my 20mm, but others have had good results with some other quartz caps too.
mixchu69
Well-Known Member
a lil misunderstanding...i think its easier to drop a dab in a bucket then a halo with a hole in the middle. But i take larger size dabs, so might not be pertinent to you.
SamuraiSam
Extraction Technician
I am stoked for you! But I think you need to thread the heatsink and joint together a little bit more for maximum stability.
I was actually quite surprised with how small the sic halo is! I can't even fathom the TAG SiC that NV offers! Otherwise, I think I was sent the wrong halo!
Thanks bro! That was actually just loose and slapped together just for a quick pic. I'm a little apprehensive about tightening everything due to possible halo fracturing based on some things i've read about the nut. Just very minimally hand tight right? You would think that d-nail would add some instructions or warnings at least.
I so can't wait for that first virgin rosin dab! Think i'll set my high5 to 575 for the first one? Got about 15 minutes of sleep last night
I have a feeling this afternoon and evening are going to be complete write offs, but STAY TUNED!
Get the base setup and tightened up, put the halo in the base over the heater and tighten the nut down until it's just finger tight. I like to make sure the heater is centered in the halo best as possible, then fire it up, should stay tight always. My NV parts like to loosen after heating/cooling down, but the nut on the halo likes to stay snug on the slim base.
EDIT: If your high5 controller heats up anything like my dhgate controller (seems to be on par with what everyone else reports), 525-580F is a nice spot for low temp dabs on SiC halo. Try it with the smallest of dabs first then work your way up in size until it's performing the way you like. For me, I am at 580F almost always, it's a nice compromise of flavor and vapor production. 525F tastes amazing but the effects weren't as good for my med needs.
Also, the first dab off a clean or new dish doesn't taste nearly as good as once it starts to get a thin sheen of oil on it (seasoning?). That's when the flavors really start to pop.
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ensabbahnur
Hash Vacuum
I was actually quite surprised with how small the sic halo is! I can't even fathom the TAG SiC that NV offers! Otherwise, I think I was sent the wrong halo!
Thanks bro! That was actually just loose and slapped together just for a quick pic. I'm a little apprehensive about tightening everything due to possible halo fracturing based on some things i've read about the nut. Just very minimally hand tight right? You would think that d-nail would add some instructions or warnings at least.
I so can't wait for that first virgin rosin dab! Think i'll set my high5 to 575 for the first one? Got about 15 minutes of sleep last night
Are you joking? the Halos are 30mm which aside from some gag buckets are about the largest standard diameter dish you're likely to find, the TAG dish is like 50% the size, its TINY in a side by side.
For rosin I usually start a bit lower until I see how it melts on the nail, some rosins have so much crap in them that they make a big mess but you'll dial it in pretty quick.
I wouldn't worry at all about the tightness of the nut, I tighten the SIC pretty damn tight without tools and have had zero issue, in fact I still don't think Ive ever heard of anyone breaking their SIC (saphs yes, and SIC when dropped but never the nut) via the nut being too tight.
Seasoning your SIC is ridiculous, wash it with a little water before you use it the first time and you should be fine once it burns the skin oils off the dish for you touching it.....one of SICs strong points is cleanliness and purity, seasoning is literally the opposite of this, you definitely season ti, but you clean quartz, SIC and sapphire perfect everytime.
@ensabbahnur ridiculous to season the SiC? Perhaps I've owned mine for far too long but I can assure you that a clean dish doesn't taste as good as a dish that's had at least 1 dab on it.
ensabbahnur
Hash Vacuum
Maybe, I still think just some warm water would remove the machine taste but Im not sure thats at all what anyone thinks of when the term seasoning is used, that harkens to cast iron pans with built up oil crust, and I literally cannot imagine in my darkest dab nightmares someone running a truly seasoned SIC dish.......that'd be like seasoning a non stick pan (ceramic, PTFE, etc etc) Might be picking at semantics here but to run your SIC like you would ti is less then ideal....IMO
I am not talking about machine taste at all, I'm talking about a 2 year old halo that's been cleaned and used literally thousands of hours exclusively. When the SiC is completely clean, something about it, it doesn't deliver maximum flavor at that point. I am not technical enough to know why, but I can say with certainty that at least some level of seasoning on a clean SiC dish will give superior flavor.
EDIT: If you read my post, you would have seen the "thin sheen" remark. Details matter, Im not talking about building a 0.25mm layer of seasoning on the halo dish.
EDIT: If you read my post, you would have seen the "thin sheen" remark. Details matter, Im not talking about building a 0.25mm layer of seasoning on the halo dish.
Not joking at all...it's been a while, but my FP SH Ti was bigger i'm pretty sure. It's just perception man, i've only seen these sic dishes in vids and such, and just perceived it to be perhaps 50% bigger. I'm glad I didn't go with that TAG FP wrap around now! That must be a joke it's so tiny in comparison.
The only reason i'm even bringing it up is because i've read about anecdotes, and i'm pretty sure they are right in this very thread.
Says right on the label to use ISO and rinse.
ensabbahnur
Hash Vacuum
I am not talking about machine taste at all, I'm talking about a 2 year old halo that's been cleaned and used literally thousands of hours exclusively. When the SiC is completely clean, something about it, it doesn't deliver maximum flavor at that point. I am not technical enough to know why, but I can say with certainty that at least some level of seasoning on a clean SiC dish will give superior flavor.
EDIT: If you read my post, you would have seen the "thin sheen" remark. Details matter, Im not talking about building a 0.25mm layer of seasoning on the halo dish.
I did see the thin sheen, but any amount of oil left over at all is adding, literally, outside flavor to your dabs....while Ill 100% agree with you a dirty nail has MORE flavor than a perfectly clean one, is does NOT give you "superior" flavor, and thats the huge and critical distinction that I was trying to make originally. Also now that Im thinking about it, if you dab low temp enough that any sheen of oil is remaining on your dish, your flat out too low and inarguably contaminating future dabs.
@biohacker the SH isn't really what id call a dab nail even though it can be used as such and yes I know its designed as a dab nail....its certainly a 1 off non standard amongst the dab equipment field, and yes, the Halos are slightly smaller then a full SH setup but again Id never classify it as a dab nail in the same conversation as a Halo, Liger or any bangers.
There are people here who will jump all over your nuts for soaking your porous SIC in ISO as it somehow "gets in the pores" IIRC, and ruins the taste......although beyond a few min cookout of skin oils, I've NEVER tasted even the slightest hint of ISO on my SIC......or any other glass or metal dab equipment for that matter......EVER.......so maybe the take away should be, to each his own?
Not a long soak. Just in a small dish poured iso over it, then q-tip, then hot water rinse, paper towel and air dry. I see people using iso qtips to clean their halos too?
But yeah, I guess everyones mileage will vary. I can't wait to share my experiences! few more hours...
Brother I will just leave it at a subjective experience. I've documented my dabbing methods in a number of threads, I do small dabs at low temps. I never, ever dab high enough to vaporize everything in my dabs except with using distillate, that seems to swab up cleanest obviously. If it was that much better you'd see way more people torching their SiC after each dab like quartz.
Perhaps biohacker can let us know how his first dab tastes in comparison to his 2nd or 3rd dab.
ensabbahnur
Hash Vacuum
100% this.
But people will swear otherwise.
@psychonaut Im in no way saying you need to fully burn off your dab when you're dabbing, Im saying if you clear your dab and qtip your dish and are leaving a sheen of oil after the qtip passes, and then it doesn't burn off....you are indeed too low and leaving a buildup and is going to effect temp. I think perhaps we are getting confused as to wheat EXACTLY we are talking about so maybe lemme simply and clarify.....I think leaving residue on your dish after a dab and after "cleaning" is dumb. As an aside i HIGHLY recommend people torch the hell out of their SIC every so often to fully reset it back to factory fresh, and yet there are folks here that still don't think you can even torch the SIC, which as another aside @biohacker , is why Ive changed my thoughts on tightening the SIC nut and it not being a worry as long as its not beyond hand tight....is Ive torched it while locked down to a nail several times with no issue....while this is not a guarantee its never going to break, I will say worrying about your nut on SIC is much ado about nothing.
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I thought it was:
nut
halo
coil
big washer
post
small washer (to limit height)
18/14 connection
Just wanna make sure i'm setting this up right. Off to the dnail website.
Yes!
Thanks! Then whussup with that post/d-nail's suggestion? I understand the post was for Sapphire, and to ease some heat stress or something? Just makes no sense to have the coil exposed underneath IMO. Wouldn't be as great for heat retention.
I've only ever had the washer above or below the heater, otherwise everything else has been the same. Sapphires are garbage IMO, seen too many crack. The SiC is durable and probably their best offering.
Likes2vape
Well-Known Member
I have had my SiC dish for over 2 years now as well and I can definitely tell a taste difference between a clean dish and a dirty one. After awhile dabs all start tasting the same to me unless I clean the dish. I feel you get the best flavor out of a clean dish.
@biohacker if you had seen other nails/dish setups besides the showerhead you would think the Dnail halos are huge. The rest of the dishes are tiny in comparison. The showerhead is ridiculously huge and doesn’t make for a good dab nail at all imo. All I taste is hot to when dabbing from the sh. The Dnail SiC halo is worlds above it.
@biohacker if you had seen other nails/dish setups besides the showerhead you would think the Dnail halos are huge. The rest of the dishes are tiny in comparison. The showerhead is ridiculously huge and doesn’t make for a good dab nail at all imo. All I taste is hot to when dabbing from the sh. The Dnail SiC halo is worlds above it.
ensabbahnur
Hash Vacuum
what are you referring to? pictures on dnails site show the listed method with the coil directly under the dish?
just start dabbing and see what happens, Im starting to think you're over thinking it abit when everything is right infant of you and ready to rock
I pulled the cotton off a q-tip, couldn't get it to stay. So used the end with the cotton still intact, and it screwed in perfectly. Hopefully it doesn't burn! lol
Any performance differences? You would think it would be designed to have the coil in between the washer and sic no?
Yeah man, I flat out REFUSED to dab off that SH Ti is was sooooooo
Even at lower temps! But some people love dabbing off of Ti? Gross.Man, I just want to know how to set up the coil and washers. To me it seems pretty common sense to sandwich the coil between the washer and halo. Having the washer above the coil makes little sense to me.
I guess it's just about that big washer now.
This is true, however I think I am referring to something different. I'm talking a sparkly clean halo virgin dab compared to the following dabs. If you clean your halo every day, great! But I think most people don't and dry/wet swab their dishes which is going to keep them cleaner longer.
Just to clarify, I am not advocating dabbing off a crusty nail! Au contraire, I am a flavor chaser, the nail has to be cleaned at least weekly with my swabbing methods. I'm generally dabbing 4-5 different strains of rosin.
The heater will actually deform if you have the washer above the heater, at least over long term use.
Likes2vape
Well-Known Member
Not everyday but at least once or twice a week. In between I do qtip with water. I thought maybe you were one of those guys who cleans his nail once a year or something.
