The glass mouthpiece for the V3 already seems pretty close to what I want, but time will tell. I just think over time silicone in the vapor path takes on the popcorn smell of extraction at high heat, which I then taste even at low temperatures. But the glass mouthpiece of the V3 seems to have very little silicone where it might pick up a taste.
Multi-brand Xmax V3Pro vaporizer, convection, on-demand&session.
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That does not jibe with my experience. My V3s produce very dark brown to black ABV. They don't deplete material as rapidly as my OG Hoppers, but they can definitely produce full extraction, even to the point of charring. They produce much darker ABV than my IO Hoppers.
I do, however, need to use longer draws on the V3 to get full extraction - about 16 seconds versus about 10 seconds for the Hoppers.
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The HEATERS themselves are probably just about out of spec. as the 70w. GH heaters. Built to a price point, don’t expect “precision”.
Petetbay
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Don’t think that’s the problem, these guys are pretty good at getting spec set. Adapting to the use of a convection vape to get the most out of it, is usually the problem.
I don't expect precision, but I have been impressed by the consistency of the V3's performance, especially at the price point.
MoltenTiger
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Interesting. Both of my V3 Pro's are very similar, they produce ABV as you describe but they're limited to 220 and that seems about right. I'd like a bit more heat, which is what rapid extraction requires. I've had Grasshoppers (old and io) that maxed out at 260 which is why I made my previous comment. A totally different experience to a tan ABV Hopper, which is a miserable thing.
This wishful feature isn't for sipping through a plastic recorder session style use, it's for big 30s one-hits
Agreed. The V3Pro can get you to full extraction and can produce some huge clouds, but it isn't the same experience as a Hopper session. Even though I use on-demand mode with the V3Pro, it is still not like a nice hot Hopper session.
I performed an unintentional drop test on my black V3Pro yesterday. Dropped it from about waist height onto a hard tile floor. The mouthpiece flew off, the screen came out of the mouthpiece, the battery cover flew off, and the battery came out of the slot by about 1/4 inch.
As I was reassembling the device I noticed that the battery cover magnets were still attached to the body. When the battery cover flew off, the strength of the magnetic force holding the magnets on the body was greater than the strength of the adhesive holding the magnets on the battery cover.
I was able to re-attach the magnets to the battery cover with tiny slivers of two-sided clear tape. The battery cover now stays on body as it did before.
There is a small dent on the battery cover. It's actually difficult to see unless you hold it at the right angle. Otherwise I didn't see any outward signs of damage on any of the other parts. No obvious dents, scratches, or cracks. The vape still works perfectly!
Aside from the failure of the adhesive on the battery cover magnets, the V3Pro withstood the impact really well.
Dolpaca
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Got mine recently and I’m loving it so far! First convection vape and I think it’s pretty solid.Also any tips? I’ve been told to turn it up to max temp and to make sure to pack loose and stir the bowl. Been working out great so far but is there anything else you guys do to get the most out of this vape?
David Root
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No stirring needed for me.
Use the temps you prefer. Try them all.
Glass in a nice addtition.
David
Use the temps you prefer. Try them all.
Glass in a nice addtition.
David
cliffhanger1
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What helped me to get more vapor was to cover some air holes.
I only have the two upper rows free and the rest of the rows are sealed with a tape.
Have fun.
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Dolpaca
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I’ll give this a go! Thanks for the tip!What helped me to get more vapor was to cover some air holes.
I only have the two upper rows free and the rest of the rows are sealed with a tape.
Have fun.
I have the glass mouthpiece on the way! Gets here tomorrow. I can’t wait! Thanks for your response
cliffhanger1
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Unfortunately I have a bit of news to report with one of my 2 units.
My first device, which is 4 months old (but was practically not used in the first month, then every day), is no longer quite as hot as at the beginning and not like my second device. At first they were the same. I can tell that the ABV is brighter on the first device.
I still love the vape. I hope that it stays a single case and doesn't show up with several people.
I had something similar with a spare hopper that initially delivered much darker ABV. What a shame. It is not unusable, but i see it. LOL
But I think I'll give the vape another chance and try again with a 3 unit in the future.
My first device, which is 4 months old (but was practically not used in the first month, then every day), is no longer quite as hot as at the beginning and not like my second device. At first they were the same. I can tell that the ABV is brighter on the first device.
I still love the vape. I hope that it stays a single case and doesn't show up with several people.
I had something similar with a spare hopper that initially delivered much darker ABV. What a shame. It is not unusable, but i see it. LOL
But I think I'll give the vape another chance and try again with a 3 unit in the future.
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NOLOGO
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it's 4 months old? I'm sure it's still under warranty, no?Unfortunately I have a bit of news to report with one of my 2 units.
My first device, which is 4 months old (but was practically not used in the first month, then every day), is no longer quite as hot as at the beginning and not like my second device. At first they were the same. I can tell that the ABV is brighter on the first device.
I still love the vape. I hope that it stays a single case and doesn't show up with several people.
I had something similar with a spare hopper that initially delivered much darker ABV. What a shame. It is not unusable, but i see it. LOL
But I think I'll give the vape another chance and try again with a 3 unit in the future.
Put a mesh filter in the bottom of the oven to keep out any debris.
Do you run extra screens at the bottom of your unit's oven?
I would send it back for a warranty replacement as @NOLOGO suggested, after talking to your seller that is. If they do not want to help @PPN will look after you.
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MoltenTiger
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Whilst it's nice and dark ABV from the V3, and I am getting very satisfactory cloudage, I'm not getting Sublimator levels (of full extractions or similar plumes) - I'm running that with a tiny bit of headroom too (not much though!)Agreed. The V3Pro can get you to full extraction and can produce some huge clouds, but it isn't the same experience as a Hopper session. Even though I use on-demand mode with the V3Pro, it is still not like a nice hot Hopper session.
I performed an unintentional drop test on my black V3Pro yesterday. Dropped it from about waist height onto a hard tile floor. The mouthpiece flew off, the screen came out of the mouthpiece, the battery cover flew off, and the battery came out of the slot by about 1/4 inch.
As I was reassembling the device I noticed that the battery cover magnets were still attached to the body. When the battery cover flew off, the strength of the magnetic force holding the magnets on the body was greater than the strength of the adhesive holding the magnets on the battery cover.
I was able to re-attach the magnets to the battery cover with tiny slivers of two-sided clear tape. The battery cover now stays on body as it did before.
There is a small dent on the battery cover. It's actually difficult to see unless you hold it at the right angle. Otherwise I didn't see any outward signs of damage on any of the other parts. No obvious dents, scratches, or cracks. The vape still works perfectly!
Aside from the failure of the adhesive on the battery cover magnets, the V3Pro withstood the impact really well.
I can easily spot the difference. It all looks darker to the eye, this photo is all lit up with a strong white light. Sub on the right, with V3 sprinkled on top on the left.
This also reminds me of another reason I want more heat, for the inserted glass bowl I've been using. There is a very thin wall of lighter ABV that makes direct contact with the glass, the majority gets properly roasted through the middle similar to ordinary use. It takes quite a few goes before needing to empty either way, I prefer loading a chamber, having the chamber, emptying the chamber one after the other, simple, repeatable, predictable usage. Basically there isn't enough heat, even with the ordinary attachments, to one-hit anything, which is what the Sub is a master of and achieved with the darker material here.
Not a deal breaker by any means, the V3 being compared to the master is just flattery, but it would be a big deal if this device could do a proper one-hit (even better if it can be dialled in and also offer the session style it currently does so well)
The V3 is close enough that it will outperform plenty of other units, but I still dream of the day of having a portable that is actually truly in the same league as the Sub. However it would be a dangerous item and tolerance destroyer!
With the V3 it's a nice balance of potency which is better as a daily driver. But a single device that does it all could be found in this form factor considering how close this is.
BTW that drop test takes the cake. I dropped mine to carpeted wood from a similar height, no drama there although it flew apart and went several different directions on impact too.
Glad you could repair/reassemble yours and it's still going!
Yet to see a teardown but I'm keen to see what is inside this thing. I don't even know what material the heater is
The test of time is always interesting. I have wondered how that will play out.Unfortunately I have a bit of news to report with one of my 2 units.
My first device, which is 4 months old (but was practically not used in the first month, then every day), is no longer quite as hot as at the beginning and not like my second device. At first they were the same. I can tell that the ABV is brighter on the first device.
I still love the vape. I hope that it stays a single case and doesn't show up with several people.
I had something similar with a spare hopper that initially delivered much darker ABV. What a shame. It is not unusable, but i see it. LOL
But I think I'll give the vape another chance and try again with a 3 unit in the future.
One thing I've noticed is how much off-gas can occur if the unit is pre-heated at max temp when empty and air is blown through the intake hole's.
Worth checking from time to time.
With the glass Fury2 WPA insert the sidewalls remain clean, but small amounts will gradually find a way into the device still, which is what I think I've observed. With the glass WPA inserted in the chamber I no longer have to Q-tip after each empty, but the bottom is always exposed. An extra screen is a good idea @LesPlenty, as would be Fury2 crucibles. Once airflow or sensors are impacted, the unit can no longer function the same as new. This is one of the many ways besides power delivery that Hoppers cooked it.
Another advantage of a device made to tolerate combustion temps is that they can self-clean by doing an above temp dry run.
Benefit of the V3 Pro dwindling is that the price is much easier to stomach than a hopper, or really most options. But hopefully it's not a common trend as we've seen elsewhere.
I would try feathering the intake holes with your hand/finger instead of constantly blocking the holes.
But maybe I should tape mine up before making that comment. I tried a band, but it sort of got in the way of the MP scoop.
It handles varied amounts quite well, though fluffy and full is a safe bet for convection.
I would definitely try other temperature's too, however I do usually use mine on max, and could do with a touch more still.
Still, I'm quite surprised how many decent hits I can get off a very tiny amount with the fury2 WPA in the chamber. I think that's the best tip I picked up here other than learning it exists at all.
Another tip for a new unit, try and keep it as clean as it is now! Requires a lot of Q-tipping with a warm oven.
I finally got a Volcano brush for this vape and it's pretty handy for the plastic (?) funnel above the chamber, where little bits can get caught between the enclosure sidewalls.
vapviking
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An essential tool in any kit, the S&B brush!
My extras of these tend to stay in the packaging, since they don't seem to ever wear out...
You not been vaping very long?
Good brushes for sure but they wear out...my 3 still in use,
As said they are great for getting crumbs out of tight places.
vapviking
Old & In the Way
as-in, they last a long time, no?
I don't understand why you question a person's vaping history but, whatever...
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happynomoretobacco
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The same happened to me with the fenix pro after eight month..Unfortunately I have a bit of news to report with one of my 2 units.
My first device, which is 4 months old (but was practically not used in the first month, then every day), is no longer quite as hot as at the beginning and not like my second device. At first they were the same. I can tell that the ABV is brighter on the first device.
I still love the vape. I hope that it stays a single case and doesn't show up with several people.
I had something similar with a spare hopper that initially delivered much darker ABV. What a shame. It is not unusable, but i see it. LOL
But I think I'll give the vape another chance and try again with a 3 unit in the future.
Petetbay
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Did you try a different battery, one you know is good. If the battery level drops faster than normal(less sessions) then maybe on the way out. Weak battery that is depleting will give the required voltage so not to cause battery low voltage error, but does not provide the needed current for normal operation. I don’t know if the V3Pro has a firmware routine that reduces performance when it senses the battery level is low to get you more sessions(@PPN would know), but many devices have this.Unfortunately I have a bit of news to report with one of my 2 units.
My first device, which is 4 months old (but was practically not used in the first month, then every day), is no longer quite as hot as at the beginning and not like my second device. At first they were the same. I can tell that the ABV is brighter on the first device.
I still love the vape. I hope that it stays a single case and doesn't show up with several people.
I had something similar with a spare hopper that initially delivered much darker ABV. What a shame. It is not unusable, but i see it. LOL
But I think I'll give the vape another chance and try again with a 3 unit in the future.
MoltenTiger
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Bit of tongue in cheek I'm pretty sure. You're a veteran vaporist
Of course the brushes won't last forever, but the packet effectively will for me I bet. Easily.
I've been using an MFLB brush for years, these are just a super size version which are better suited for this device. Gotta be careful with the nylon bristles and hot parts, otherwise an isopropyl wash when things get too oily and caked up has them as good as new.
Thats the hundreds of cycles test. If anything is going to go wrong with the electrics it will probably happen in such a time frame.
Be nice to get to the thousands before things start to fail, but it's tricky with the all-encased designs frequently used with convection.
Need more modularity, replaceable coils/heaters etc.
And primarily functional thermal insulation for any SMD IC components.